 Looking for interior wiring harness diagrams for a 2001, Helms? Anywhere online? Anybody scan a few pages? |
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 Oct 26 2006, 12:25 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179  |
I'm looking to remove as much of the interior wiring harness as possible while I'm prepping my car for the cage. I hate to buy the Helms manual just for this. Alan gave me a few places to check online for diagrams, but I didn't find anything. Any of you guys know where I might find this? Would any of you be willing to scan a few pages if you have the Helms and email them to me? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Oct 26 2006, 01:27 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
I think it will be more than a "few" pages....
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Oct 26 2006, 02:02 PM
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El Cucci Group: Advanced Members Posts: 291 Joined: 26-December 03 From: Queen Creek, AZ Member No.: 46 |
You may or may not have seen this, Its for the Lt1's but I'm assuming the interior wiring should be basicly the same
http://shbox.com/1/schematics_wiring.html |
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Oct 26 2006, 02:15 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 12-February 04 From: Huntingtown, MD Member No.: 193 |
From looking through my Helms manual for something else 2 nights ago, the wiring diagram is lot more then "a few pages". It's more like a few hundred pages, FWIW.
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Oct 26 2006, 09:54 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
QUOTE (tom97ss @ Oct 26 2006, 10:02 AM)  You may or may not have seen this, Its for the Lt1's but I'm assuming the interior wiring should be basicly the same http://shbox.com/1/schematics_wiring.html That is what I need, but I think things changed quite a bit from 95 to 01. QUOTE (pknowles @ Oct 26 2006, 10:15 AM) From looking through my Helms manual for something else 2 nights ago, the wiring diagram is lot more then "a few pages". It's more like a few hundred pages, FWIW. That's what I'm afraid of. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) OK, anybody feel like renting me theirs for a few weeks? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Oct 26 2006, 10:18 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 47 Joined: 3-September 04 From: Florida Member No.: 449 |
for my 4th gen i bought the factory service manuals when i got the car, its three seperate books, about the size of the yellow pages, i also purchased from ebay, a set of manuals for a lotus esprit turbo on cd, its the real deal what the techs use, and it was only about 30 bucks. the factory manuals are a must when removing wire from the car, because most of the others don't cover enough of the diagram.
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Oct 26 2006, 10:41 PM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
Dennis, you pay the shipping and you can have my 98 Helms.
When you are finished, send it back. |
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Oct 27 2006, 12:58 AM
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Nitto Destroyer! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 248 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Rochester NY Member No.: 29 |
Dennis.cover shipping and get them back to me by Jan.
Shoot me a e-mail. I do have the complete set for 2001 Gary This post has been edited by GM01SS: Oct 27 2006, 12:59 AM |
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Oct 27 2006, 02:03 AM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 26 2006, 06:41 PM) Dennis, you pay the shipping and you can have my 98 Helms. When you are finished, send it back. Mitch, thanks for the offer, but since Gary actually has my year, I'll go through him. Doubt there is much of a difference from 98 to 01....but you never know what slight changes/colors may have happened. QUOTE (GM01SS @ Oct 26 2006, 08:58 PM) Dennis.cover shipping and get them back to me by Jan. Shoot me a e-mail. I do have the complete set for 2001 Gary Gary-Will send you PM/email. Definitely be done with wiring by Jan!--Hope to be done with wiring within weeks! |
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Oct 27 2006, 03:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 919 Joined: 30-December 03 From: Northern NY Member No.: 66 |
Dennis I can get you what you want, but would have to send the pages to you. my program wont allow posting/email. What are you specficly you looking for.
John |
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Oct 27 2006, 04:17 AM
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El Cucci Group: Advanced Members Posts: 291 Joined: 26-December 03 From: Queen Creek, AZ Member No.: 46 |
I was looking for something else on my hard drive and found this in one of my folders. its from a Mitchell repair Manual, I don't even remember where i got it
Wiring Schematics Its 56 pages long. The info you want starts around page 31 This post has been edited by tom97ss: Oct 27 2006, 04:24 AM |
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Oct 27 2006, 08:14 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
QUOTE (tom97ss @ Oct 27 2006, 12:17 AM) I was looking for something else on my hard drive and found this in one of my folders. its from a Mitchell repair Manual, I don't even remember where i got it Wiring Schematics Its 56 pages long. The info you want starts around page 31 Thanks! I downloaded it. I wonder how different the Helms is. I think this alone may do the trick? |
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Oct 28 2006, 12:49 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,766 Joined: 10-April 04 From: New Orleans, LA Member No.: 303 |
FWIW, the wiring colors did change between years. Don't ask me what changed, though. I just know that I cut some kind of dash wire incorrectly and got a diagram for a 1998 (mines a 2000). The 1998 had more or less grey wires than mine did. It was pretty useless.
Good luck. Go slow and cut 1 thing at a time. Be careful to start the car and move things around every 5 or 10 wires you cut. I had my car running and cut a lot at once. Shut the car off and it wouldn't start again. Took about 2 weeks of evenings to reconnect the right wires. |
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Oct 28 2006, 03:26 PM
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$10 helmet user Group: Advanced Members Posts: 113 Joined: 29-September 05 From: Fort Campbell, KY Member No.: 902 |
Not only do wire colors occasionally vary between years, but when you get down to that level of detail, you'll discover errors in the Helm's manual. Not surprising, given the amount of wiring we're dealing with.
If you can't visually trace the wire, I've found it's often worth taking a little extra time to verify things with a continuity meter whenever possible, instead of trusting the diagrams 100%. Dave |
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Oct 28 2006, 03:38 PM
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 |
Sound like I should definitely still have Gary send the 2001 servic manual and then still be extremely sure before cutting. Thanks guys! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Oct 28 2006, 09:56 PM
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El Cucci Group: Advanced Members Posts: 291 Joined: 26-December 03 From: Queen Creek, AZ Member No.: 46 |
QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Oct 28 2006, 08:38 AM) Sound like I should definitely still have Gary send the 2001 servic manual and then still be extremely sure before cutting. Thanks guys! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Keep us updated on what you find (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Oct 29 2006, 01:26 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
Here's another tip, don't cut it right at the connector until you're POSITIVE you don't need it again. A 3" tail ought to be enough to butt splice just incase of an oops...
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Oct 29 2006, 03:37 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,766 Joined: 10-April 04 From: New Orleans, LA Member No.: 303 |
Great suggestion.
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