STANG KILLA SS goes "racin" Options

[STANG KILLA SS]

Last year I hit the track again and sorta kept track with a blog type thing in a thread on another forum. figured I copy paste it here and then keep it up to date.

[STANG KILLA SS]

After about a 10 year hiatus, I decided I wanted to go racing again(with corners this time around), and spent the winter getting the car back road worthy, and fixing a lot of issues. Had my first Autocross today

never been a fan of cone dodging, but for $20 bucks and 10 minutes from my house to Hoonigan around right in front of the cops it was worth it. Defiantly a good shake down.

I was really pleased with how the car did. Especially the front end. Braking and cornering were great. The back end not so much. Cornering was fine, but I just couldn't get any power down, with the power im putting out, the 4.10s, first gear, and a track that was a puddle of water that morning I just couldn't give any skinny pedal. Due to the venue they also had a "no breaking traction" rule that made it even tougher.

I felt like all my iRacing actually hurt me in turn-in and braking, I could have been way more aggressive there in real life, than iRacing allows. Old habits die hard.

For some reason the outside footage looks like slow mo. My dad rode with me and after watching from the outside he thought the same, going way faster inside the car, than it looks like watching.

took it easy the first run, then the last 3 starting trying to push more. ran 30.5, 30.4, and 30.7. The 1LE Camaros and SRT8s with there several event experience were running high 29s. the pros were running 27s in there Miatas and Sti's.

But I didn't hit any cones, the car survived, and I had a blast! Im hooked



how the hell do you post an embedded video?
https://youtu.be/l2xpogkr7MY

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 04:06 PM

[Steve91T]

Car looks and sounds awesome! I can can tell you you needed to be in 2nd. You have plenty of low end torque to pull out of the turns. And you're probably going to want to drop to 3.42's if you're planning on doing a lot of track days.

[SuperMacGuy]

Videos always look way slower than real life. I can barely imagine what it feels like to actually be driving an LMP1 car.

[STANG KILLA SS]

suspension right now is eibach sportline springs, stock front struts (120k on them), and rear summit drag shocks. essentially if you hand picked the parts to to make a fbody handle as terrible as possible that's what im running

yeah strano/konis are still the setup for a track/street car.

got the half of that setup in. Koni Adjustables!

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new springs are in!

BMR 550lb fronts and 160lb rears.

ironically it will actually raise my car, these are only a 1.25" drop and my current Eibach Sportlines are a 2" drop. but the added roll/pitch support/response will by far overcome the CG change. Eibach rates were 360lb/137lb
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[STANG KILLA SS]

well this weekend I had my first PDS at TWS. 2.9 mile road course. What a blast!
First day went decent, car did pretty good. but the second day I kept boiling the brake fluid so I had to take it easy on entrys with only about 50% brakeing power available. pedal never would come back even after cooling. on the final set I lost the brakes completely. still a blast though. time to do work. cant wait until the next one!


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[STANG KILLA SS]

Final Day. had already boiled brake fluid twice on earlier sessions. braking power and pedal were down to about 50%, so I just went easy on entries so I could still finish the day. Ignore the early lifting and blown apexes. 4th and final session of the day coming into #10 (1:40 in video) the pedal went all the way to the floor with zero braking. I turned in as hard as I could to try to keep on track and to try to get the rear to kick out to bleed off speed. droped the drivers rear off. still had zero brakes even after cooling.

Video
TWS PDS Last Lap Brake Failure 7 19 15 - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:00 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

pulled an all nighter and got the suspension in. about 3 hours.

moved the C clip in the front that holds the lower spring cup to give an extra 1/4" drop

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out back i pulled out the rubber spring isolator at the top and did the heater hose mod to get a extra 1/2" drop in the rear.

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sits a little higher than my old springs still as i expected. front is livable but the rear is still a little higher than id like. may end up cutting 1/2 to 1 coil off the rears.

also did a full flush on the brake fluid using an air bleeder. fully flushed with cheap brake fluid first, then again with the Motul 600. the stock fluid was filthy, the cheap fluid was clear, and the Motul was amber, so it made it real easy to see when it was completely flushed at each corner. followed each corner with a couple manual pump bleeds to check for air.
brakes feel good now. harder and higher than i ever remember the pedal.

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got an alignment as well. i went with -1.0 camber (factory specs are +.4!) and 5.0 degrees of caster. had some toe out in it at first to make turn in more responsive, but ended up going back to 0 so i didnt have to worry about scrub or crack walking on the highway.
pretty cool $60K alignment machine only used cameras. no electronics in the wheel attachment.

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This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 07:44 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

had my second PDS last weekend
good times

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I don't know if im getting better, or everyone else got slower, but on 3 of my sessions I started 1 minute behind everyone and by the end of the session I had passed the entire field (about 12 cars id guess) I felt like I was actually pushing less as I was on $20 autozone pads.

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lunch time got to drive up and check out the old skyboxes atop the bleachers. cool perspective from up there.

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few clips I threw together trying to use GoPro Studio, not my best driving, just trying to get a hang of the program
TWS PDS 8 15 - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:05 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

on my final session of the weekend, I actually got my blue group "solo" approval!
first time out on the track without an instructor. good way to end the weekend.
unfortunately on my 3rd lap I blew it. came into 4 too hot and trailed the brakes waaay too long and spun at the top of the hill.
Video
TWS PDS 8-15 First Solo Session and Last Lap Spin - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:05 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

went back to local AutoX this last weekend and did alot better.


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vid of my timed runs
AutoX 8 15 - YouTube

run #3 (thanks Steve!)
Cory AutoCross pass 3 - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:06 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

well I think I finally reached the end of my braking ordeal.

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14" 5th Gen Stoptech Cryogenic frozen rotors, with center bore machined out to 70.6mm for 4th gen hub
Gen 1 CTS-V Brembo 4 Piston Calipers
Hawk HP+ Pads
Kore3 Stainless and coated lines

Huge difference over stock

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well after fitting the brakes and after all my research the new brakes wouldn't clear my wheels. diameter had about .1" which I was fine with, but the fat lip and the +25 offset, the spokes wouldn't clear the new huge calipers. enough spacer to clear the calipers made the tires stick out 2".

So I had no choice but new wheels. cheapest wheels with the specs I needed were these Black Chrome C6 Spyder wheels. 18x9.5 +40 offset.

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after getting the wheels in and test fitting them, I took them in to get my old tires transferred to these wheels. well they were so dry rotted the beads were just ripping as they tried to get them off the old wheels. (date stamp on tires was 200 so I had no choice but to order tires. this "cheap" big brake upgrade was adding up now.

figured I may as well go with something sticky, but wanted to still keep street stock legal (200 min tread wear) so I went with the Hankook Ventus R-S3 V2 tires. 285/35/18 Lots of great track reviews especially for there price. there as wide as my old BFG 295s

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finished up

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bedding in test drive showed a lot of promise. I think I may need harness's now...

[STANG KILLA SS]

best event yet! car was completly transformed!

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Hankooks and brakes did amazing. Only had to use probly 25% brake power/pedal and ran all weekend long strong zero fad. Also really helped the Braking bias, no more oversteer when braking, and ABS really left me alone. Big improvment. Tires were awesome, covered me on a few bad lines keeping me straight and on track. Lots more grip and turn in and got rid of under steer. Car did great! for the first time nothing broke, failed, or let me down (well broke seat braket) If i had to find a flaw i would say that using so little of the massive braking power, it gave back very little "feel" threw the pedal since i was just breathing of them. but still insane performance.

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the square tire setup really livened up the car too, lots more turn in and neutral steering, vs the old staggered setups understeer. also the lots softer compound was really working and making a difference. big jump in grip.

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Had one of my best sessions ever Saturday i think it was. Decided to go out with the leaders. Following #1 full race C5Z. Gave me something to push for and overcome my comfort zone. Was flying out there and really wheelin the car finally. Tires were screamin for mercy. I kept pushing and the car kept taking it. awesome run. Also finally figured out a better line for me into 8, turning in early. What a blast!!!!

Heres a few random clips from the weekend (long)
TWS PDS 9 15 - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:06 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

also got to run in the rain

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saw the storm coming right before my session and knew i wanted to try it. most sat out, i think only 8 or so of us went out in the wet.

i left it in 5th and putted around, dropping my cornering speeds to around 60. caught a few cars that i guess were going even easier than i was.

slow and boring wet vid. got progressivly worse as the session went on.
TWS PDS 9 15 rain session - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:07 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

Had an awesome event at the last autocross. Car and myself did very well. It was a really open course which suited my bigger car well. Was super stoked with my times. I did so well I ended up winning the RWD class! and even better I also beat the entire AWD class too other than 1st place.

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Vids of the a few runs. better runs start at the 3:09 mark
AutoX 9 15 Part 1, 1st Place RWD - YouTube



































and then this happened

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forged internals and ARPs, but im assuming a rod or rod bolt let go.

video here, about the :29 second mark I started hearing a double exhaust note/echo, i figured i had just blown a header gasket or broke an exhaust weld or something. I backed off but kepts going. coming back into the crossover the rear tires locked up and the motor let out the smoke. no real noises, booms, or scrapnel sounds. just died.
AutoX 9 15 Part 2, Hole in Block Blown Motor - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:07 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

We got the motor pulled out last night

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drain plug

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[STANG KILLA SS]

carnage pics

pan

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rods wanted out!

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Damage was worse than we thought. #5 and 6 completely disintegrated. Forged rods, forged pistons, cylinder walls/block, crank, bearings, valves, everything. Shrapnel got 3 and 4 too

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whats left of #5

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top and right you can see the valve strikes. bottom left you can see where the piston hit the bowl of the head. and the piston spun nearly 180*

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you can see the hole in the block at the top. and all the carnage below. unbelievable.

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[STANG KILLA SS]

head work is now done,
4 new 2.02/1.6 Ferrea valves
new Dual .650 PRC springs
New Ti retainers
new Steel seats
new PRC Viton seals
valve job

well ive got this thing back together

went with a Texas Speed short block. Aluminum 5.3L bored back to 5.7. forged goodies and overall nearly identical to what I had before other than block.

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heads are my old ported 862s that I had completely refreshed. replaced the 4 bent valves, new double PRC .650 springs, new Ti retainers, new seats and seals, decked and valve job.

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the cam was a big one for me. I spent 3 weeks talking with a bunch of the industry's biggest getting specs, opinions, and learning a lot about valve events. ended up having Tick Performance Custom grind me this cam. Went with lower duration, and a reverse split lift to try to give up some big end peak HP to gain some mid range power band. 227/235 .619/.600 112.6 LSA

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long block assembled

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accessorized and wired

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I just liked this pic was about to steam clean the engine bay, firewall, and K-member

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Motor back on the K-member! intake, headers, clutch, etc etc on.

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lifted back into place. was a cool feeling/moment

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the first fire up!
New Motor First Start - YouTube

all finished. I now have about 450 break in miles on the motor, and next week will do the final oil change to remove the break in oil. Ordered a case of Joe Gibbs LS30 oil to run from now on.
I did lots of other updating along the way as opportunity presented itself. basically restoring everything under the hood to brand new parts and making all little issues "right"

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This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:19 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

well i had my first time back at AutoX last weekend. motor had about 400 miles on it, and still had the break in oil in it, hasnt even been on the dyno yet

The course was longer and much tighter than previous courses. not big car freindly. two 150* hairpins and two loops. the good news for me, only 2 of the Miatas showed up to compete for this event.

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id been battling with a couple S2000's all day for top honors. we'd worked our times down to a 49.1(him) and a 49.2 (me). well on my 4th run(3:30 in the video) the sun was setting and i knew the track was going to cool off and this would be my last chance to get a good time in and i went out knowing i had to push harder. ended up stomping a good run and put down the quickest time of the event by a large margin

had a blast and the car did great! also got to do some night time fun runs. times were about 2 seconds slower in the dark (5:30 in the video)
AutoX 12 15 - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:21 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

well im a couple weeks behind getting these edited and posted but here they are. PDS at TWS.

Car did great. I was able to pass everyone in my group. Saturday there was a '15 911 I wasn't able to pass, our pace was the same but he was far more aggressive in traffic so I never could get around him. Sunday however there was half the cars and I was able to pass him.

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probly the highlight of the weekend was having a F430 in two of my sessions! pretty sweet getting to race against it, ive never seen another Ferrari on track.
Saturday in the sun I was able to catch and pass him in two laps. Sunday in the rain however, his mid engine was giving him a lot more rear grip, took me 4 laps but I was still able to catch and pass him.
going by a $200,000 super car in a $10,000 Camaro was a pretty cool feeling

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heres a little mash up id did combining all my laps from the weekend into a single lap.
TURN IN FOR WHAT - YouTube

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:21 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

part 2

on the last lap on sunday, on the front stretch i threw the belt off the pulleys. coming into turn 1 at 130 mph with no power steering was a serious pucker moment. but kept it on the pavement. overheated the car getting it back to pits with no waterpump, but so far everything has checked out. no blown head gaskets.
however unfortunately while checking for water in the oil (none), I came across this. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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the blue color, and the spring were an immediate giveaway. valve seals.
pulled the valve covers and replaced them. over half of them were just floating on the valve stems. the ones what were down were crushed. 5 total.
it looks like the machine shop just slide the seals over the stems and didn't tap them on. just pushed on with hands.
got them all swaped out to some comp cams seals and fully seated on the guides.

old seals

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got her back together and everything good to go other than tune. still fighting that.

[STANG KILLA SS]

well i was a little slow getting vids edited, but here is the update from the PDS earlier this month

Car did awesome.

spoted this on the way to the track saturday morning, had to speed up and the wife snaped a couple pics. i didnt think R34s were legal for import yet?

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Compilation of laps
TWS PDS 1 16 - YouTube

end of day 1
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a goal i set when i started racing here was to get a sub 2 minute lap in this old straight line boat. i didnt know if it was possible but saturday i did it for the first time i was so stoked. ended up running 4-5 sub 2 minute laps threw out the weekend.
Between the tune, and corner 1 i think there could be another full second to be had.

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heres some unedited clips of a few of the 1:59 laps
TWS PDS, 1 -'16, Sub 2 minute laps, 1:59.xx - YouTube

the quick times came at a cost though. after only a few events my new hancooks are nearly shot, even with the proper camber. now i see why racing is so expensive

i threw another belt saturday, and was fighting that all weekend. when i would get above 6400 the tensior would start ringing and then throw the belt and of course id loose waterpump and power steering. had to just baby it on the big end of the front and back straights to keep belt on.

headed home after a great weekend

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solved the belt issue with a Hawk fixed/manual belt tensior after getting back home.

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added a Founders Performance panhard rod too. was getting some rearend lateral movement and clunking.

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This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:23 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

last event update.


Fought brake vibrations all weekend (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) from my very first session. was gyrating the steering wheel on left turns when braking, not the usual vibration from warped rotors, more of a distinct left to right movement back and forth. would not do it on rights or in a straight line.
which was weird because they were fine last event, and I only drove it to work once and to the car wash. then first session this month I got the steering pulsing. also could not reproduce it on the street/ access road.
tried rotating tires, bleeding brakes etc. my first thought was a bad wheel/abs sensor, pulsing one wheel. it would also try to straighten the car when braking.
but as the event went on I decided to keep racing and it became obvious when It started doing in on rights and straights it was warped rotors, and mine are custom machined so I couldn't replace them. spare set bought now and on the way to machine shop tommorrow...

you can see the heat in the rotor (after event) perfectly aligned with the cooling vanes inside.

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so turning was quite a work out. my arms were burning trying to hang onto that wheel. also in all the footage you can see when I brake it would violently shake the camera. so I didn't make a video. random stuff below.
I did manage a couple of 2:00.8 laps though

had a 458 in two of my sessions! got near him a couple times, but because of traffic we never really got to run each other. I was gaining time on him though, had we been able to get near I think I would have had him.

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later sessions sunday my tires were starting to heat cycle out. just not holding the lines they previously could. probly there last event.

I did get to see a new 5.0 Mustang dukes of hazard style. I was coming up on him quick, and I think he let the pressure push him too hard. which is weird because ive run with him before and hes a really great driver. I felt bad after and sort of responsible. I went to check on him after giving him cool down time. and damage seemed limited to a destroyed splitter and front bumper. was a really nice car.
TWS 2 16 MUSTANG JUMP - YouTube

saw this beautiful 911 RSR. immaculate SEMA quality race car build. thing was perfect inside and out. wiring and layout looked like a circuit board. top notch build. really stood out. it was first time out since build. he wasn't going easy on it either. wish I would have gotten pics of inside and under "hood"
LS3 powered Z06 behind it. running 315 slicks on all 4 corners

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Vaders Z06 drool

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red/white group going out
Tws 2 16 red and white group - YouTube

Radicals 1500cc hyabusa motors

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This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 18 2016, 08:24 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

Well ive got a big race coming up this weekend, well to me. Its put on by Track Guys which is a Mustang group. Ive started calling it "me vs the world" for some reason i want to have a good showing at this one.

started by pulling out non essentials. droped right at 61 pounds. the back seat was the hardest. 2 bolts turned into a 2 hour ordeal.

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made a radio delete panel of of some aluminum.

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while pulling off the RS3s i noticed a heavy blue ring heat. they were shot and heat cycled out. not holding there usual lines anymore.

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Ordered a new set of RS3s from Tire rack but they were on national back order for a month, so i switched to a set of Dunlop ZII Star Specs. had to drop down to a 275, but they are as wide as the RS3 285.

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also picked up a new set of High Carbon rotors with Z clad coating for backup. had them machined(center hole). went up to $97 for the machineing. Ive got to find a way to do this myself. These will be my back up set.

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Track guys requires an SA rated helmet. no motorcycle helmets. so i had to pick up this SA2015 racequip. its good for 10 years.

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[STANG KILLA SS]

had the origonal rotors cut to get them back straight. had to have it done twice. first time they were still warped. also got some Quantum hub mounted braking cooling ducts and some ultra high temp Allstar performance hose. as well as some other misc from lowes.

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tires mounted, time to go to work

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well the expensive brake duct hose didnt work out. it was MUCH too stiff and unflexible. picked up some foil duct from lowes to get me threw weekend.

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i plan to swap out to some better black hose, and proper intake ducts after the event.

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its predicted to rain during the event, but im hoping there wrong. i really want to do well.

[Steve91T]

Thank you for taking the time to post all of this. I can't wait for the next update! This forum needs more of this.

[STANG KILLA SS]

thanks! as long as yall enjoy them, ill keep posting updates. I liked your threads as well.

I wish the videos would embed, thread is kinda missing all the important bits without them.

hope to have update posted soon.

[dailydriver]

Did you ever find out what caused that built engine to grenade like that??

To prevent that from happening to your (beautiful) new block/full rebuild did you do anything to address the oiling system (Accusump, IR baffles/scraper, more oil in sump, better pump/thicker o ring, etc.)?

An ATI crank damper would also help when you spin it up above 6300 as well.

Also, I understand just how unbearable having no AC on the street in Tejas can be, but you could drop a BIG amount of weight off of the nose IF you could handle it. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by dailydriver: Mar 20 2016, 08:44 PM

[SuperMacGuy]

Here's my brake ducts, maybe you can use this as inspiration. http://www.paveglio.com/firebird/2001tamods.html#duct

[CrashTestDummy]

I've seen that R34 at a couple of Houston Region autocrosses. It's a lot of car. Not enough tire under it. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

[STANG KILLA SS]

Did you ever find out what caused that built engine to grenade like that??

To prevent that from happening to your (beautiful) new block/full rebuild did you do anything to address the oiling system (Accusump, IR baffles/scraper, more oil in sump, better pump/thicker o ring, etc.)?

An ATI crank damper would also help when you spin it up above 6300 as well.

Also, I understand just how unbearable having no AC on the street in Tejas can be, but you could drop a BIG amount of weight off of the nose IF you could handle it. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

judging by the bronze color on the crank bearings, were assuming it lost oiling.

yes on this new build i spent all my money on oiling, and none on horsepower.
Improved Racing oil pan baffle
High Pressure oil pump
GTO pcv conversion
and all new oil components, pickup tube, o ring, windage tray etc. and Joe Gibbs LS30 oil.

yeah for now im gonna keep AC. car doesnt see much street time, but sitting in the car in hot pits gets pretty sweaty when its 105 outside + t-tops.
definatly looking into other major weight reductions this winter though.

[STANG KILLA SS]

A long time ago the nick name "Stang Killa" was given to me by the car club in my second camaro. Some 18 years later im proud to still represent the name. Entered A Track Guys mustang event this last weekend with over 100 Mustangs, and made the name, the car, and myself very proud!

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one thing i did notice was the trash talking via custom license plates, particularly on the SVT and Shelbys. i got a kick out of reading them as i was passing them.
Passes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCPo0yLslK4

The good new is that the brake ducts survived. I don't have any kind of before and after temps, but that cant be hurting anything. Summer may tell the truth if they were worth the effort or not.

The bad news as i suspected is the new Dunlops were not near as sticky as the old Hankooks.
i was running 39/38 hot pressures like i did in the Hankooks.
-First thing i notices was no feedback. they don't squeel at all. only a super lower pitch ripping sound after youd past the limit, that was barely audible. no high pitch squeeling at the limit like the RS3s.
-they don't like heat and instantly loose traction and all of it if you get them too hot, which was easy to do in only 80 degree day.
-faster responding than RS3s. the stiffer sidewall helped this im sure. i was curb hoping all day with them turning in so fast at apex.
-a more lively steering wheel. lots more quick twitches to drive them vs the hankook smoothness/sluggishness.
-less grip overall. especially initial.
-less feel and feedback. not a connected feeling.
-lake of sound and feel left me with no idea when i was at the limit.
-lost 1-2 seconds a lap. and i had to work a LOT harder to keep it at that. drivin identical would be more like 3 seconds per lap.

on my very last session (after a bad overheat of the tires the previous session) i decided to drop down to 37/36 psi. this definatly helped, they never over heated. but they were sorta of a sloppy mess in regards to handling. felt like a 70 series sidewall or something.

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1 of 3 real Cobra Rs there
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They also had 2 GT350s there. (actually 4 on sunday. ironically all 4 were identical gunmetal, with blue stripes and black wheels) they were all drooling and taking photos of it all weekend. instructors were also giving ride alongs all weekend. everyone said it was pretty amazing. even GM guys. all i know is they were holding me up all weekend. passed both of them twice.
i didnt know much about them, just that they were new and track oriented. Wife looked them up after the event and said they were 526HP.
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GT350 wouldnt let me pass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_ClYTJ97l4

i did get lucky once and got two clean laps in. best lap of 2:00.39 but most were 2+ seconds seconds slower with the Dunlops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s9iGFt-FxU

rare Viper TA (Track Attack) one of 93 made. never got to run him. he fell back on the warm up lap.
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Overall a good weekend. made new freinds, and the car survived and had a great showing.

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 21 2016, 06:15 PM

[dailydriver]

^^^Were all of the GT 350s the 'base' cars (like shown in the pic, with the alloy wheels), and NOT the GT 350 Rs, which have the carbon fiber wheels, deleted EVERYTHING (except a heater), bigger front splitter and rear wing, and better suspension components??

BFG REALLY needs to get those wider 18" Rival sizes (like a 295/30-18) released already!!

This post has been edited by dailydriver: Mar 21 2016, 11:38 PM

[ar52kortlang]

Thanks for posting... seems like TWS is having all the clubs and fast cars out there before they shut down...I ran there in my charger but haven't had time since I have owned the Camaro. I run the Dunlops for autocrosses..275 40 18..I run pressures lower 28/34 and when they get hotter they get more grip..haven't overheated them yet. I am running w the Porsche club autocross at grandsport on Saturday so they might get really hot

[STANG KILLA SS]

I wouldn't call them base cars but yes they were all GT350s not GT350Rs. no slouches, but no, not factory race cars either.

ar52, thanks! yeah im sure the Dunlops would do better in autocross, where they don't have time or the speed to get cooked. I am anxious to give them a second shot now that I discovered they like lower pressures than the RS3s.

[ar52kortlang]

I wouldn't call them base cars but yes they were all GT350s not GT350Rs. no slouches, but no, not factory race cars either.

ar52, thanks! yeah im sure the Dunlops would do better in autocross, where they don't have time or the speed to get cooked. I am anxious to give them a second shot now that I discovered they like lower pressures than the RS3s.

Post up if you are in the Houston/ College Station Area again racing...

[STANG KILLA SS]

They say you only get out of something what you put into it. So after my local tuner struggling for months with the new motor, i decided to make the 5 hour trip to Victoria to see the famous Texas tuner Patrick Guerra.


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before starting i did a little 9am injector swap. went from 26lb to 36lb
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Dyno Pull #1
https://youtu.be/6JzQ2PWG2QI

Dyno Pull #2
https://youtu.be/3QAVYN05o_A

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/tune%204_zpsrh2q0riz.jpg)

car put down 426HP and 397TQ on a Mustang Brand dyno. im sure on a normal DynoJet would add 10HP or so more.

(origonal local tuner had it at 415 on a DynoJet but later had to add fuel and timing which probly lowered it to the 405 range)

all in all i probly gained in the 20-25HP range or so, but most importantly its running right now. and efficient.
it will cold start and idle, and even idle with the AC on. and im sure it wont shoot fire when i lift and stink like hell from being so rich like it was before.

cant wait to test on track!

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Mar 30 2016, 04:36 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

Well last weekend had an Autocross after the new tune. car ran great. It was a super tight course with a bunch (4-5) hairpins that this big car doesnt like. Ill admit it wasnt as much fun. also could have used the stickier RS3s, would have really helped. but in the end the car did really good. had a bunch of folks impresed to have an old camaro out there doing so well. there always perplexed/amazed.

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/x6_zps79ifvkia.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/auto%20x%201_zps71o8kdwt.jpg)

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(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/auto%20x%202_zps6orspjrs.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/x7_zps39dansuh.jpg)

most of the feild was running in the 45s, with a couple 43s. i had a 43.6 but wasnt just super stoked with the run.
on my last run (3rd in video) i put down my best time.
https://youtu.be/fXbdrvjUoNM

buuuuuut technically i didnt win. there was this guy (super nice) he was supposed to be in X class but they didnt have enough to fill the class so they left him in RWD. he ran a little over 1/2 a second quicker than me.

Miata floor pan, drivetrain, and suspension. Front engine. square tube Fabbed front and rear frame. Channeled bug body. Coil overs. 10x20x13 slicks. 1700lbs and $1500 to build. looked damn fun.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/x3_zpsiw9lzcf1.jpg)

you can really see how low/small this thing was here
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/x4_zpspktsla74.jpg)

check out the seat position!
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/x5_zpsvavxy5y6.jpg)

https://youtu.be/GuJ__aZ8Los

my folks came out to watch, and i got to give my mom a ride during the fun runs. i tried to be a little smoother. she didnt scream once (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
https://youtu.be/o5sX9tdaNOI

There was also a GTR out there doing exhibition runs. they came up to me and asked if i wanted a ride. so i did (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/x10_zpsbvvpeld4.jpg)

for some reason i wasnt expecting much but to be honest i was impressed. the grip levels were unreal. unfortunatly it was too gravely for launch mode, but it still toke off sounding like the tires were being riped in half. and the areas it would accelerate were so unnatural coming from RWD all my life. and as heavy as it is i was really blown away how nibble it was in the hair pins, it never slide or understeered once. but it was still running 2 seconds slower than me (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
https://youtu.be/axVXRjbtTM8

[STANG KILLA SS]

well im a little late getting these posted.

got brake ducts V2.0 done. replaced all the silver flimsy duct with the stiffer black duct, and only used the silver duct on the spindle where i needed the flex. also painted the intakes for a more stealth look.

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/DUCTS%201_zpsqqskkz7d.jpg)

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also installed a new rack and pinion with tie rods. this was the last piece of the puzzle for the cars full mechanical restoration.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/RACK%20N%20PINION_zpsb9beveel.jpg)

did a midnight race alignment when we were done. got toe back to 0, and increased camber from -1.0 to -1.2. also did it this time with me in the car. my weight changed the camber by .25 degrees.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/ALIGNMENT_zps65n9kfje.jpg)

also added a Power steering cooler. it worked awesome. reservoir never boiled and didnt puke out PS fluid all over the engine bay every session.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/PS%20COOLER_zpsegro1kvk.jpg)

and then it was race day! rain held off and we had cooler 75-85 temps and overcast.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/COLLAGE_zpshiwfihyw.jpg)

the harder Dunlops really liked the cooler track temps. i was able to run 37/36 psi and it really liked it. never faded and grip was up. still didnt have the initial bite and turn in of the Hankooks, but i was able to pick the time back up by being smoother and rolling threw mid corner more.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TIRE_zpsn94do5vi.jpg)

ran good enough to get a sub two minute lap:shock: i couldnt believe it out of the Dunlops. average was in the 2:01 to 2:02 with no traffic. cooler temps really helped these tires.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/LAP%20TIME_zpscw7tvyvf.jpg)

Bad news was i had a few failures. Front pads had nothing left, 1 torn brake duct, a Torque arm bolt rattled out, broke the welds on the Y-pipe, and something was going wrong with the transmission. twice when shifting (both times 2nd gear i think) it sounded like it was chunking gears, and shook the car violently. but i could never replicate it. it was just random and only happened twice. a couple time i could also hear the clutch disc dragging.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/EXHAUST%202_zpszdgvkxwg.jpg)

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So i made the call to put it back on the trailer after saturday and skip sunday (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Here are a few of the clean laps from Saturday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOsD8RlHCZo

[Steve91T]

I can't believe your Y pipe cracked like that. Bad welds?


So I was watching your video and for some reason I just didn't get much of a sense of speed. I was wondering why you were taking it so easy. Then I noticed your speedo. Man that thing looks like it pulls hard.

[STANG KILLA SS]

not sure. for 1 the Y pipe and exhaust is 15 years old (SLP). and i noticed when we put in the new motor that the exhaust hung down even lower than before. it may have been in a bind?
or when i had the transmission issue and it shook the motor/car it may have been too violent/rapid for the exhaust and broke it.

haha yeah the videos look super slow. partly because of the wide angle lens. and partly because of my gears I'm not doing hardly any shifting.
also yes i am a bit timid at times with these Dunlops, they just don't have the initial bite of the RS3s, so i have to tip toe in, and I'm a fairly smooth driver. all make the vids looks pretty slow.
ive tested on a few videos using gopro studio to remove the fish eye. it instantly adds 20mph to the videos visually.

haha yeah i get a kick out of the speedo too. i think im going slow, then i look down and realize im cornering faster than most people drive on the highway(70 here in TX) and i feel a little better.

now i want to go watch the video again (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Thanks!

[Steve91T]

It wasn't axle hop that you felt, was it?

[Steve91T]

Better yet, did you get it on video?

[dailydriver]

You have long tubes going into a cut/modded factory style SLP y-pipe, or is it the actual SLP y-pipe FOR long tubes??

[STANG KILLA SS]

It wasn't axle hop that you felt, was it?
Better yet, did you get it on video?

naa it was at too low of speeds. one was coming into the pits, and the other was at a gas station. ie under 20mph.
plus i don't have axle hop issues with my 12 bolt and big front brakes. unless i down shift to early. but not from braking.

also a couple times when starting the car and taking off in first the first time, i could hear the clutch disk dragging.

yeah i probly have it on video. would have to do some digging.
im going to do a 100% fluid swap/bleed of the clutch fluid with motul and see if the fluid was just hot/old.
then my next suspicion is going to be throw out bearing.

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: May 4 2016, 02:12 PM

[STANG KILLA SS]

You have long tubes going into a cut/modded factory style SLP y-pipe, or is it the actual SLP y-pipe FOR long tubes??

its an actual SLP Y pipe for LTs.
i got it jacked up last night. the metal is SUPER thin. luckily ive got a TIG. but not much experience.
its like half the thickness of a dime.

[dailydriver]

You have long tubes going into a cut/modded factory style SLP y-pipe, or is it the actual SLP y-pipe FOR long tubes??

its an actual SLP Y pipe for LTs.
i got it jacked up last night. the metal is SUPER thin. luckily ive got a TIG. but not much experience.
its like half the thickness of a dime.

Is it 409 stainless, or just mild steel?

I know they used 409 for their stock type y-pipe which connects up to the factory catcons/downpipe (I have a brand new one for sale sitting in my cellar), but I'm not too sure about their long tube version(s).

[STANG KILLA SS]

You have long tubes going into a cut/modded factory style SLP y-pipe, or is it the actual SLP y-pipe FOR long tubes??

its an actual SLP Y pipe for LTs.
i got it jacked up last night. the metal is SUPER thin. luckily ive got a TIG. but not much experience.
its like half the thickness of a dime.

Is it 409 stainless, or just mild steel?

I know they used 409 for their stock type y-pipe which connects up to the factory catcons/downpipe (I have a brand new one for sale sitting in my cellar), but I'm not too sure about their long tube version(s).

just steel. and VERY old. infact when i bought these LTs (and Y) they were the ONLY LTs available on the market. the Hookers werent even out yet. damn things cost me $1200 too (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[BryanL]

Glad you are having fun-sure hope TWS doesn't die. Nice car and setup. Read this as a consideration that you aren't warping rotors.

http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/...and-other-myths

Ever thought of going racing with us in CMC? Do you follow the Texas board? http://www.aicmctexas.com/forum.php

[STANG KILLA SS]

Ill check those out, thanks!

[STANG KILLA SS]

I got the exhaust welded back up, flushed the trans with Motul 600, new pads, and repaired the brake ducts.

tranny is still acting up, but im hoping it will hold together until I need a clutch. then Ill swap in a new throwout bearing.

Had a autocross this weekend. between the rain and being mothers day not many showed.

in line to run. and the storm hits.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/RAIN_zps2vcxe5ti.jpg)

track was perfect for my car, very open and fast. sadly with the rain I couldn't take advantage of it.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/ss%201_zpsljl36lf7.jpg)

I ended up being the last run of the day. most everyone had left, the rain had stoped but track was still wet with puddles. I put down a 31.24 which was a second and a half faster than my previous runs. I was super stoked with the time.
Fastest Run Video
https://youtu.be/THblrLoQsmI

which was good enough for 2nd place! I was super happy with that. the guy in first was driving a S2000 which was 700lbs lighter, with 71R tires, and was a great driver to boot. I knew my boat had no chance to compete with that. amped with my time though.

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/results_zpsgtdq5ogc.jpg)

There was also a guy there with a Shifter Kart:shock:. I somehow talked my way into a drive. Ive never driven one or even a 2 stroke for that matter. The hand clutch and left foot braking was unnatural to me, but I didn't spin out that was my goal. what a blast! the acceleration and steering was insane. very quick. now I neeeeeed one (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I didn't know what I was doing and let it get off the pipe a couple times, but it was still an absolute blast!

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/cart_zps2r4m9puj.jpg)

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Kart Run
https://youtu.be/u_PIjOiuHHs

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: May 12 2016, 12:49 AM

[STANG KILLA SS]

Pics from last event.
First day and a half was a bust. with the rain, fog, and ambulance not showing up there was virtually no laps run. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) but sunday afternoon the sun poped out and they stayed open and extra 3 hours.

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TWS%205%2016%201_zpsf55exukc.jpg)

Guy that pitted next to me Z06. his 2nd or 3rd vettes hes tracked all over the country. he couldnt keep up. super nice dude.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TWS%205%2016%202_zpssjfmdqal.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TWS%205%2016%2011_zpst5gtpoj3.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TWS%205%2016%203_zps5a1res32.jpg)

I like this pic because you can see me trail braking, sliding the rear into T10
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(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TWS%205%2016%209_zpsb72guzhj.jpg)

Also passed my ride along and got my Yellow run group approval! next level is with the instructors!
Saturday on my first test i failed, coming into 13/14/15 Esses a new Z/28 had spun into the grass, and i missed him and the yellow flag, barreling right threw at race speeds. next day i got my second test with the head instructor and passed with flying colors.!!
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TWS%205%2016%208_zpsmjtxkzus.jpg)



Video:, 3rd lap i catch a NASA camaro and get to do a lap with him. couldnt touch is power to weight on the straight!
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/TWS%205%2016%2010_zpsfe82xhrd.jpg)

VID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXuSo3UvPc

[STANG KILLA SS]

Pics from this months PDS

GTR was loud and quick coming out of the corners, but I was able to get by him in a lap.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/pit%20road_zpssgjwavyw.jpg)

Radical RXC
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This was a husband and wife Pair of vipers. They did not have a good sunday.
This was the husbands car. Sunday morning he put it into the concrete wall around the T13 flag stand. crushed the whole side of the car in.
(before pic)
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/20160611_125302_zpstjxkrowj.jpg)

This was the wifes car
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Sunday afternoon she backed into the wall between T3 and T4. HARD. I was on track at the time. we went red flag stop on track for a long time. was scary/creepy. she left in an ambulance on a stretcher with at least a broken arm.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/viper%201_zpsieualetd.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/Viper%202_zps0zzo42v0.jpg)

my parents made the drive for the first time to watch me so that was really cool. some footage my dad took, on the front stretch, and the slowest T10 corner. long intro
https://youtu.be/bL_OJ3l3FLw

and I had a big spin coming into T1. I was hitting my highest MPH ever at 142, and the second I turn into 1 I hit a surprise rain shower
https://youtu.be/n6NzTJmJfIQ

[landstuhltaylor]

No wonder you don't like autocross. That first gear junk looks miserable

[dailydriver]

NICE! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

What engine was in that Radical??

OUCH!! to those two Viper$. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[STANG KILLA SS]

Last weekends AutoX. Largest track yet, 2 parking lots. but lots of lock to lock hairpins, so it was hard to be smooth.

Before I went I had to repair the broken collector on my exhaust. TIGed it back together.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/weld_zpsipoobhun.jpg)

and my old Dunlops were shot already. decided to try a full race slick scuff.#becauseracecar
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/conti_zpsf6t8e0wi.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/conti%202_zpsjybluext.jpg)

but first I had to properly dispose of the old tires (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
https://youtu.be/nsZuexzrn7U

cars from the event
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/gtr_zpsvh036sen.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/nsx_zpsbaktmven.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/porsche_zps24nbrwm0.jpg)

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Jul 11 2016, 12:02 AM

[STANG KILLA SS]

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/r32%201_zpsovgsjsbr.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/r32%202_zps408xoqr0.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/r32%203_zpsupjspdrn.jpg)

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a few runs
https://youtu.be/BRtPpajT2kI

I couldn't get the hang of all the lock to lock stuff, course just had no flow to it, so I wasn't super happy with my driving, but did well enough for 2nd place. Lost by .06 seconds. not bad I guess against a 800lb lighter S2000. great driver too.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/results_zps5mmmvs63.jpg)

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Jul 11 2016, 12:02 AM

[dailydriver]

Nice results. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Are those Contis really just re-branded Hoosier R7s, or is their construction and compounding completely different from those gumballs??

[STANG KILLA SS]

ill be honest I don't know. I was just told they were made by hoosier for conti.
I know a bit about 200tw tires, but don't know jack about slicks or R compounds.

I have seen a few comments on the Contis that suggest they may not be the stickiest of slicks out there.

[STANG KILLA SS]

well after taking a couple months off due to the heat, i headed back to the track.

but first had to tear out the trans. the last few races id been getting alot of noises from the trans. squealing when the clutch was out(engaged) and some other odd things going on.
my hunch was a slave/throwout bearing, but i ordered a new clutch and pilot bearing just in case.

got it pulled night before the event
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/trans%201_zpsdidhpvuk.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/trans%202_zpsbqmpv3zn.jpg)

and it turned out my hunch was right. the transmission is getting so hot racing, that it evaporated/melted all the grease out of the throw out bearing and started destroying itself. even melted the rubber seal(as seen in pic below). you can also see the black snoot and silver back plate have wear marks all over them and ground down. its only 8 months old. with that kinda heat im sure the return spring wasnt doing much either.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/trans%203_zpszjpj3yxc.jpg)

new throwout/slave fixed it right up. left the pilot and clutch alone.

off to the track! finally get to try out these slicks for the first time!
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/gtr%20ats_zpsphx2aica.jpg)

unfortunately in my second session on the warm up lap, my seat back broke (inner hinge) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
swaping seats would have taken most of the day with the 1/2" tube seat mounts i made. so i opted for a quick fix. took a few sessions to get it just right but it worked. luckily i never got caught. seat was actually stiffer than it was before the break. was kinda nice.
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/seat%201_zpsw3zyj6v1.jpg)

(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/seat%202_zps7omqg6te.jpg)

got a bit lazy on the video this time. just a few warm up laps getting used to the slicks. i was VERY careful on them and didnt trust them at all. been warned too much about how they are ice when cold, and when they do let go its instant with no warning. heres a few warm up laps that morning, no one watches these anyway (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTCrBrYJK8U

sadly my weekend came to a quick end just before lunch on the second day. was checking hot psi and noticed the passenger front was toast. (ccw track) lasted ONE day, about 3 hours of track time, and ended my weekend. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i had camber set pretty well with my 200TW tires, but obviously the slicks needed ALOT more.
a very fast and very expensive lesson. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
(IMG:http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/STANGKILLASS/Camaro/tire_zpsnsfieuax.jpg)

and heres the crappy part, they didnt even make me faster, not even a little. in fact i was nearly 3 seconds slower than my personal fastest lap there. i was running 2:02 to 2:04 as my fastest lap per session on the slicks. typically on the 200TW i run 2:00 to 2:02 for fastest lap, with my all time fastest laps being in the 1:59s. really a bummer and big disappointment with the slicks.

but you learn something everytime. now i know.

[Steve91T]

4 things.

1: Your car sounds so good!
2: That seat...wtf
3: It looked like you were really taking it easy. I'd be willing to bet you were no where near the limits of those tires. It is true that slicks will give you less warning, but the characteristics of your car really won't change. Slicks won't turn your car into an Elise, a car that is a little touchy at the edge. So find some safe corners and start experimenting with carrying more speed into the turn and getting on try gas sooner.
4: I don't care what kind of track surface it is, you weren't pushing it hard enough to chord a tire like that in only a few sessions. Something ain't right. What are your alignment specs and what were your hot pressures?

[STANG KILLA SS]

thanks!
i know
yes in the vid i definatly was. i had been warned/scared so many times online about slicks ( ice when cold, no warning when pass limits etc) that i almost feared them. but by the afternoon i found none of those to be true and was able to push them.

-1.2 camber
0 toe
31F/30R hot.

[Steve91T]

I think your front pressures are a little low. I'm looking forward to seeing what others say

[ar52kortlang]

Let me know the next time you go race at TWS .. I'll come watch ..

[CrashTestDummy]

Expensive lesson? Nah, you bought take-offs. Do that with NEW slicks, and you're getting expensive. But a full-bodied car with 3 hours of driving is a LOT of time on slicks, especially take-offs. But yeah, it looks like you need more camber.

[STANG KILLA SS]

Well after racing the Camaro for awhile and building it up i found myself wanting more. Well actually less, weight that is. I also wanted the ability to have rear camber. Plus the Camaro was getting harder and harder to find parts for. Sooooo after watching the C6Z market for about 9 months and doing a ton of research i picked up my first vette yesterday!

2009 Z06 3LZ
38000 miles

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If i was going to spend this kind of coin i wanted a modded one with the basics already done, and this one had it, along with some extras.

Mod List:

TSP Stage 3 LS7S cam: 242/250 .655/.655 114LSA
Upgraded valve springs and retainers
TSP 1-7/8" Polished Stainless Steel headers
TSP 3" Polished Stainless Steel X-pipe (no cats)
K & N cold air intake
Mild 2 Wild dual mode exhaust controller
Lingenfelter 160 degree thermostat
Hinson Motorsports short throw shifter and knob
CCW Forged SP16A wheels: 19 x 9.5 and 19 x 13
Gloss black wrapped roof
Blacked out taillights
Blacked out side markers
Lloyds Z06 mats
Pioneer double din touch screen head unit

Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayjHmPiNZI4

Gonna be weird starting all over again from nothing but it will be worth it in the end i think. The car is truly phenomenal so far. LOTS more to come!

[CrashTestDummy]

Nice! Now lose te stupid red flappy bits over the engine, so it can keep cooler. I never understood that crap!

[STANG KILLA SS]

Thanks!
haha yeah, i took them off the camaro too, (i had added carbon fiber FRC to it when i was doing car shows years ago)

[Steve91T]

Wow didn't see that coming. That thing is sick! Congrats!

The LS7 has some oiling issues, right?

Are you selling your Camaro or are you going to hang onto it?

[BumpaD_Z28]

HOLY SHIT ! ... that thing is beautiful !

I've always toyed with the idea of selling my '82/'02/'87 ... and picking up a C5Z06 / C6Z51 ... but I'm never able to convince myself to sell the '82 (it was my 2nd car) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

~DaVe

[STANG KILLA SS]

Wow didn't see that coming. That thing is sick! Congrats!

The LS7 has some oiling issues, right?

Are you selling your Camaro or are you going to hang onto it?

haha Thanks!
no not oil issues(well not any different than any other road raced LS), they have valve guide issues.

the Camaro will get offered up for sale.

[STANG KILLA SS]

crazy part is the day after i bought it BMR Suspension contacted me wanting to sponsor my Camaro with some of there new parts.
i couldnt believe it but told them they were 1 day too late (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Oct 23 2016, 02:00 PM

[ar52kortlang]

Didn't see that coming either...New ride looks sweet.. congrats ...

[ESP125]

Long time visitor to this website, but I haven't been on in a while. Wow, awesome job detailing your trials and tribulations with your Camaro and now with your Vette. I usually don't read too much further than the first page on most blogs but you captured my attention and kept me reading because I was curious to find out what was next. The photos were awesome too, they helped paint a picture of how things were going.

Did you get rid of the Camaro?

Curious about Cadillac brakes you put on the front. Did you order them as a kit from a vendor online? I have C5 calipers on the front of my 94 and they seen pretty good. Was there a huge improvement when you went to those?

[STANG KILLA SS]

thanks! ive been blown away at how many different people on different forums actually follow this thread. i did it just for a place to log my progress for myself using the forum as free webspace.

i still have the camaro for now. will clean it up and sell it. (has rubber all over it)
no not a kit, bought rotors, calipers, and brake lines all seperate.
huge improvement would be a massive understatement.... it was like going from a kite to a F-16

[STANG KILLA SS]

well work has begun.
First thing was to remove the Hinson short shifter, it was rediculous. Ive had several short throws on the camaro, but this one was way to short and stiff. throws were 1/4" to 1/2" long and so stiff you needed two hands at times. especially for neutral checks. even tore my shoulder muscle a couple times. and with throws that close it wasnt going to be safe on track. ie lots of wrong gears.

first i removed the console which was alot more involved than the SS.
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access and removed the Hinson
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then reinstalled a stock shifter. much better. a bit rubbery but a big improvement for now, may look into a Core shifter in the future.
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[STANG KILLA SS]

next up was the pan. picked up an improved racing oil pan baffle. i picked this one over the aviaid version because it was aluminum, and didnt require you to drill 3 holes in the bottom of your oil pan. also wraps around the right side a bit more.
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first up was to drop the cradle. being Magnesium it didnt way nothing. could carry it with one hand!
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pan removed
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pan cleaned and baffle bolted in. not a hard job in itself, just getting to it was the chore.
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[STANG KILLA SS]

next up was the dry sump oil reservoir baffle. Aviaid was out of these but they one built for me and it came in right when we were in the middle of the pan baffle.

removed the reservoir from the fender cavity from below by removing the fender liner and loosing the fender bolts.
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removed the top black plastic part. you can see the transfer tube and the port in sticks into on the left.

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the baffle
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next was the hard part, inserting the baffle and trying to get the transfer tube back into its port completely blind with the baffle blocking your view. but with some reference marks and some dry runs without the baffle i got it back together without too much hassle.
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[79T/A]

Dude, did you support the motor by the crank pulley?

[STANG KILLA SS]

only as a back up. the motor is hung my chains on a forklift supporting its weight from above.

[79T/A]

Oh, thank god. You had me nervous.

[STANG KILLA SS]

Pulled the valve cover off to check the LS7s achilles heel, the valve guides.
after checking 3 of them and getting .009 and .010 wobble (.007 is max) it was obvious they were bad. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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so time to pull them. Intake off
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heads and headers off
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Sent off to AHP in California....
i keep telling myself this is what everyone does to there car thats 2 weeks old...

[STANG KILLA SS]

while i had them off i decided to paint the intakes and valve covers the z06 red since i wasnt going to put the red fuel rail covers back on (just hold heat) took me a couple days but they came out great!

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there was some confusion about the cam when i bought the car. the ad said it was a custom comp cams .615 lift, then when i bought it they said it was a TSP Stage 3 LS7S cam with .655 lift.
(going back in time before removing heads)
we set up dial indicator on pushrod.
the first rotation we got .355, second pass we got .351.
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if you average those you get .353
.353 x 1.8 (rockers) you get .6354 lift.
so i go on texas speed and what do i find. they have a stage 1 and stage 2 cam with that lift! went from an unknown cam to narrowing it down to 2!
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also found TSP 3/8" chromoly pushrods in the car

This post has been edited by STANG KILLA SS: Dec 10 2016, 12:42 AM

[CrashTestDummy]

All that red paint is going to insulate, too, you know?

Better to catch the issues now, instead of down the front straight at TWS as you are coating the finish line with some fresh oil. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[STANG KILLA SS]

threw the magic of the internet the heads are done and back from AHP! (2 weeks later with shipping and holidays)
man they look awesome! so good in fact i thought they were painted.
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[STANG KILLA SS]

AHP Package 4 Heads (include):
- Disassemble and Assembly of LS7 cylinder heads
- Performance Valve Job (show to add 5hp+ over the stock valve job)
- Resurface Heads (or milling of heads)
- Clean and Bead Blast entire head (so they look brand new)
- Hardened Aftermarket Powder Metal Valve Guides (Harder than aftermarket bronze guides)
- Stock Titanium Intake Valves Treated and Polished
- Ferrea Competition Plus Exhaust Valves F2042P (85 grams)
- New Viton Valve Seals and machined valve locks

i also had them mill the heads .025 for more compression and upgrade to the bullet proof Moldstar90 guides.


heads back on
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added .025 shorter pushrods to compensate for head mill and put intake and valve covers back on. love the look!
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first fire up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5ZRrv2iUk

[STANG KILLA SS]

rear downforce time.
Went with the C7 Carbon Extended Zr1 spoiler.
Took them about 6 weeks to make it, but it was worth the wait. Fit and finish was awesome. Resin is super deep and glass smooth, weave is straight and consistent. fit the complex bumper curves well.
Ironically i actually ordered this before i found the car...

I went a little nuts with the pics, but i like the way it came out.

lights out
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drilling brand new car #nervous
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installing 3rd brake light. left side i was able to use factory tab. right side i had to cut the tab and hold it on with a ground down washer. The hardest part of the whole project was repluging in the 3rd brake light plug.
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test fit
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Done!
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dat ass
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[trackbird]

That thing is magically sexy. Nice work! That's a sweet toy. Well done.

[CrashTestDummy]

Kinda need to update your sig. I'm just saying.

[STANG KILLA SS]

thanks guys. "magically sexy", i like that. gotta remember to use that one on the wife (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i still own the Camaro. so technically the sig is still relevant.

[Steve91T]

When are you getting that thing on the track! I need videos!

[CrashTestDummy]

thanks guys. "magically sexy", i like that. gotta remember to use that one on the wife (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i still own the Camaro. so technically the sig is still relevant.

Got it.

That thing must be pretty quick to have knocked the tail lights out of the bumper cover like that. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

[STANG KILLA SS]

ive still got a garage full of parts to finish track prepping it. pads, brake ducts, wheels/tires etc. i hope to finally hit the track for its first shake down in January or February

and poping out tail lights on these cars does happen on the track. i should know, had a base c6 car in front of me once at TWS. tail light poped out and i ran over it in the camaro. was a gal that was pitting next to me.
its just one tiny 3mm screw than holds them in. if that tiny plastic tab breaks, pop, out they come.

[trackbird]

thanks guys. "magically sexy", i like that. gotta remember to use that one on the wife (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Glad I could help. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

[STANG KILLA SS]

since the beginning i knew i wanted black headlights, but because its such a popular mod, and because GM hasnt made these headlights in years, they typically fetch a 4 figure price tag when a set comes up for sale.
so i decided to make my own. got super lucky and found a 3 month old set on ebay in a less desirable cheaper color. pretty much new condition including lenses.

started by baking them in the oven and prying. had to repeat this 5-10 times per headlight. HUGE PITA. took 4-5 hours.
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Finally!
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disassembled
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wet sanded, degreased, and ready for paint
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5 coats later
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[STANG KILLA SS]

polishing, i wont even bother going into this huge ordeal....
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reassembling
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after a ton of research i settled on loctite PL roof and flash. WARNING, if you have kids, dogs, wife etc, this stuff smells EXACTLY like chocolate cake. im not kidding, even once dry for weeks. keep out of reach (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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no going back now
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clamped. rinse and repeat for other side.
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threw in a pair of 3k(yellow) HID headlights (right) ie C6R style.
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[STANG KILLA SS]

wheels and tires.

Square setup 4x

18 x 10.5
315/30/18 Rival S

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unfortunatly they wouldnt clear my calipers. bought some 1/4" spacers first but those were only enough for the rear. the front needed 12mm spacers. Both hub centric. also picked up some extended shank lugs to grab more threads lost from the spacers.
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bingo
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[STANG KILLA SS]

Bumper and headlights removed and parts pile

Splitter/bumper reinforcement
Spindle brake ducts
Tow hook
Race pads
Fog light brake ducts
Race mesh
Blacked out headlights
LED DRLs

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picked up towhook from JDP Motorsports. instead of using the supplied press in nuts, i bought and welded some nuts to a piece of steel...
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marked hole locations in bumper bar
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drilled view from inside bumper bar
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stuck steel "handle" with nuts welded to it in bumper bar and tightened. cut off excess after tight. beats taping wrenches to sticks or the pressed in nuts.
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cut grill for tow hook
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[BumpaD_Z28]

WOW ! This car just keeps getting better and better ! The black headlights are going to look NICE (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[trackbird]

I don't know how to top "magically sexy". Maybe I should have saved that one. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

You're making me want one of these (not that I didn't already).