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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
OK, the Blaine Fab duct plenums are ready to order. Patterns are made, production alpha fits fine, materials are in stock, I'm cutting and welding all weekend so kits will be ready to ship next week.
All aluminum, TIG welded .100" and .065" thick 6061 New ARP hub fasteners included 3" stainless steel hose clamps included The plenums will fit all known brand hubs EXCEPT the Timken newest wide body hub. I recommend SKF brand hubs. Install is no more difficult than a hub swap - in fact easier, since the hubs do not need to be removed Plenums fit tightly (approx 1mm clearance to rotor) to the entire inside diameter of the inner rotor cheek, forcing the cooling air into the internal vanes where it can cool both inner and outer rotor cheeks. Cooling air also circulates around the hub, and the aluminum plenums act as heat sinks for the critical bearing area of the hub. Accepts standard 3" brake ducting - ducting not included. Since most cars will already have ducts of some form installed, ducting is not included in the kit, but is available as an option, or may be sourced locally. Immediate releases will be for 2 models: the LS1 caliper on LS1 upright, and C5 / base C6 caliper on a LT1 or LS1 upright using Trackbrackets or similar brackets. Duct plenum kits for other popular brake packages will be released soon. Custom and one-offs available, contact me for a quote Each kit includes a left and right pair of duct plenums, all hardware necessary for the application and two 3" stainless steel band clamps. Standard kit pricing: LS1 on LT1/LS1: $355 plus shipping and CA sales tax if applicable C5 / base C6 on LT1/LS: $295 plus shipping and CA sales tax if applicable 4th gen Fbody with Dulaney brackets: $355 plus shipping and CA sales tax if applicable Payment via PayPal is preferred - call me at 831 427-3296, email, or PM me with model and ZIP for shipping quote, then PayPal to: ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com Some pix: (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1436.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1437.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1442.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1447.JPG) Recommended duct routing and things that help them survive: shorten swaybar endlink till bar ends are parallel to track, then trim top of bolt end. Wrap duct with gaffers tape where it passes thru the inner fender liner, where the tire tends to rub, and at the endlink. Avoid full lock steering squish the duct about 1/2" at the point where the tire will rub - add a wrap or 2 of gaffers tape here as wear happens use wheel spacers to increase track width Duct in pics has been in service for a full CMC season: (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1441.JPG) edti: intro offer expired edit: price increase 5/22/2014 This post has been edited by Blainefab: Oct 6 2017, 07:14 PM |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27 ![]() |
OK, the Blaine Fab duct plenums are ready to order. Patterns are made, production alpha fits fine, materials are in stock, I'm cutting and welding all weekend so kits will be ready to ship next week. All aluminum, TIG welded .100" and .065" thick 6061 New ARP hub fasteners included 3" stainless steel hose clamps included Install is no more difficult than a hub swap - in fact easier, since the hubs do not need to be removed Plenums fit tightly (approx 1mm clearance to rotor) to the entire inside diameter of the inner rotor cheek, forcing the cooling air into the internal vanes where it can cool both inner and outer rotor cheeks. Cooling air also circulates around the hub, and the aluminum plenums act as heat sinks for the critical bearing area of the hub. Accepts standard 3" brake ducting - ducting not included. Since most cars will already have ducts of some form installed, ducting is not included in the kit, but is available as an option, or may be sourced locally. Immediate releases will be for 2 models: the LS1 caliper on LS1 upright, and C5 caliper on a LT1 upright using Trackbrackets or similar brackets. Duct plenum kits for other popular brake packages will be released soon. Custom and one-offs available, contact me for a quote Each kit includes a left and right pair of duct plenums, 8 new ARP hub fasteners of the proper length for the application, two 3" stainless steel band clamps, 8 jam nuts for attachment of the plenums, and installation instructions. Standard kit pricing: LS1 on LS1: $275 plus shipping and CA sales tax if applicable C5 on LT1: $250 plus shipping and CA sales tax if applicable Introductory offer: for paid orders placed before Aug 25, 2007, price is reduced from standard by $30. Offer good only on the current released models. Payment via PayPal is preferred - call me at 831 427-3296, email, or PM me with model and ZIP for shipping quote, then PayPal to: ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com Some pix: (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1436.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1437.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1442.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1447.JPG) Recommended duct routing and things that help them survive: shorten swaybar endlink till bar ends are parallel to track, then trim top of bolt end. Wrap duct with gaffer tape where it passes thru the inner fender liner, where the tire tends to rub, and at the endlink. Avoid full lock steering squish the duct about 1/2" at the point where the tire will rub - add a wrap ot 2 of gaffers tape here as wear happens use wheel spacers to increase track width Duct in pics has been in service for a full CMC season: (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix2/IMG_1441.JPG) Good stuff Alan! Same Idea, but a little better executed than mine! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,197 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Hudson, Colorado Member No.: 197 ![]() |
This appears to mount between the hub and the upright. How thick is the material in this area? When working on my redesigned hub, I found that I only had about +/- .040" before the rotor was dangerously close (or contacting) the pad abutment bracket. This would move the hub and rotor out but at least 0.065" if I read you post correctly. Do you provide spacer washers for the PAB as well to compensate?
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
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Race Driver ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 382 Joined: 14-February 04 From: SoCal Member No.: 205 ![]() |
Still #1 in line - Alan, I'll contact you about payment along with the spacer data in the next day or so...
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,197 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Hudson, Colorado Member No.: 197 ![]() |
So the longer bolts extend through the housing base and then the nuts I see in the pictures secure the duct plenum? If so, cool.
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 ![]() |
Each kit includes a left and right pair of duct plenums, 8 new ARP hub fasteners of the proper length for the application, two 3" stainless steel band clamps, 8 jam nuts for attachment of the plenums, and installation instructions. Standard kit pricing: LS1 on LS1: $275 plus shipping and CA sales tax if applicable Payment via PayPal is preferred - call me at 831 427-3296, email, or PM me with model and ZIP for shipping quote, then PayPal to: ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com Put me down for a set. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 144 Joined: 11-February 04 From: Hampton Roads, VA Member No.: 189 ![]() |
You have my PM
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
So the longer bolts extend through the housing base and then the nuts I see in the pictures secure the duct plenum? If so, cool. Fortunately, the hub holes are threaded cleanly all the way thru, so a little extra length on the hub bolts leaves 4 studs available. The nuts you see are class 4 thin jam nuts on the .100" thick backplate, with instructions to tq lightly and locktite, so no effect on the hub clamping force. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 174 Joined: 24-February 04 From: Cleveland Ohio Member No.: 248 ![]() |
Very nicely done.
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 74 Joined: 21-May 07 From: Tucson Member No.: 1,796 ![]() |
It was nice talking to you the other day Alan. Still can't believe you can fit so many cars in your shop. As I mentioned, please put me on the list. I will stop by to pay in cash in the next week or so. Jae
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 ![]() |
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I held off buying other ducting for yours. When will you have an 1997 Z28 LT1 kit ready? |
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Race Driver ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 382 Joined: 14-February 04 From: SoCal Member No.: 205 ![]() |
QUOTE When will you have an 1997 Z28 LT1 kit ready? When you upgrade to LS1 brakes of course! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) I held off buying other ducting for yours. When will you have an 1997 Z28 LT1 kit ready? Hmmm... I never considered that you would be wanting to get performance out of the stock LT1 brakes. I do have a donor car at the shop with stock brakes - I'll take a look tomorrow and see if it can be done. The challenge will be getting enough cross section on the transition from the 3" round to the inner hub area past the upright. The LS1 12" rotor is pretty tight but I do get enough area thru. The stock rotors are even smaller would be tighter getting past the upright. Worst case, if I can't make them, there will soon be plenty of conventional "shoot the air at the inside rotor face" duct setups on the used market. |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 ![]() |
I am in Canada running Autocross. Our classing up here would bump me if I changed the brakes althought they are free at the track. A full track pad for Solo Sprints works pretty good on the stock brakes but cooling would help.
Are brake upgrades legal in SCCA ESP? We may be moving to your rules next season. My ducting on the front air dam may only be 2 1/2 inches. Have to check. If 3 inch is a problem would 2 1/2 inch be possible? I know I would be losing a lot of air. |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 ![]() |
I am also using 16x10 rims. Is there a greater clearance issue for me? Anyone else running this size?
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
I am in Canada running Autocross. Our classing up here would bump me if I changed the brakes althought they are free at the track. A full track pad for Solo Sprints works pretty good on the stock brakes but cooling would help. Are brake upgrades legal in SCCA ESP? We may be moving to your rules next season. My ducting on the front air dam may only be 2 1/2 inches. Have to check. If 3 inch is a problem would 2 1/2 inch be possible? I know I would be losing a lot of air. Ahh, rules. I thought that may be the reason. I don't know about brake upgrades in ESP, but the SCCA Solo rulebook is on line at SCCA.com I checked the stock LT1 brakes, and the rotor ID is 1/2" less in radius than the LS1 rotor, so really restricts how much air I can get thru into the rotor hub. I agree that a 2.5" duct would be a better match to the restriction and lower airflow, and for the clearance from your 10" rims. I can build the duct plenums for you, and supply 2.5" ducting if needed. It would be better than no ducts, but probably not the magic bullet that makes the stock LT1 brakes wonderful. Your cost would be $275 plus $16 UPS gnd shipping for the plenums, and for 12' of 2.5" duct $72 plus $6 additional shipping. I can't do the intro discount on this since I would have to buy materials that I don't expect to ever use up. Total PayPal $291 without ducting, $369 with ducting. Your call whether good ducts are a better bang for the buck than holding out for a rule change and hardware upgrade. |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 951 Joined: 2-January 04 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 88 ![]() |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 249 Joined: 16-May 06 From: Detroit, Michigan Member No.: 1,211 ![]() |
C5 on LS1!!!! C5 on LS1!!!!!!!!! cmon!!!!!!!
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 ![]() |
I am in Canada running Autocross. Our classing up here would bump me if I changed the brakes althought they are free at the track. A full track pad for Solo Sprints works pretty good on the stock brakes but cooling would help. Are brake upgrades legal in SCCA ESP? We may be moving to your rules next season. My ducting on the front air dam may only be 2 1/2 inches. Have to check. If 3 inch is a problem would 2 1/2 inch be possible? I know I would be losing a lot of air. Ahh, rules. I thought that may be the reason. I don't know about brake upgrades in ESP, but the SCCA Solo rulebook is on line at SCCA.com I checked the stock LT1 brakes, and the rotor ID is 1/2" less in radius than the LS1 rotor, so really restricts how much air I can get thru into the rotor hub. I agree that a 2.5" duct would be a better match to the restriction and lower airflow, and for the clearance from your 10" rims. I can build the duct plenums for you, and supply 2.5" ducting if needed. It would be better than no ducts, but probably not the magic bullet that makes the stock LT1 brakes wonderful. Your cost would be $275 plus $16 UPS gnd shipping for the plenums, and for 12' of 2.5" duct $72 plus $6 additional shipping. I can't do the intro discount on this since I would have to buy materials that I don't expect to ever use up. Total PayPal $291 without ducting, $369 with ducting. Your call whether good ducts are a better bang for the buck than holding out for a rule change and hardware upgrade. Thanks for the quick reply Alan. I was looking fo help at our National Solo Sprint event at Mosport in October but I suppose the smart thing would be for me to wait for the rule change next year and upgrade brakes and ducting at the same time. Maybe like you said, some might have the "other" items avaialble in the next week or so. PMs please. |
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 ![]() |
C5 on LS1!!!! C5 on LS1!!!!!!!!! cmon!!!!!!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah!!! That's when my "conventional" ones will be for sale :-) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 384 Joined: 2-October 05 From: San Antonio, Tx Member No.: 905 ![]() |
996 on LS1? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 205 Joined: 23-December 06 Member No.: 1,551 ![]() |
Just wanted to take a second to let everyone know that these things are awesome, they bolted right on and fit and work perfectly! I really belive they were a big help in my podium finish at the Nats, it is nice to know that your brakes are cool coming down that hill into turn 4. WooHoo. Thanks Alan
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North of the border ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,307 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Montreal, CANADA Member No.: 177 ![]() |
will this work w/ a Porsche 996 brake setup ?
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 249 Joined: 16-May 06 From: Detroit, Michigan Member No.: 1,211 ![]() |
Are there any plans for a C5 onto LS1 setup?
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Are there any plans for a C5 onto LS1 setup? What brackets are you using? If you are trimming the upright bosses and using the Trackbrackets then my C5 on Lt1 set will fit. If you are using LG or other brackets that clock the calipers then I'd have to do a new model. |
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LS1 Inside! / Toolbox / Mechanical Engineer ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,215 Joined: 5-February 04 From: NJ Member No.: 179 ![]() |
Are there any plans for a C5 onto LS1 setup? What brackets are you using? If you are trimming the upright bosses and using the Trackbrackets then my C5 on Lt1 set will fit. If you are using LG or other brackets that clock the calipers then I'd have to do a new model. I'm using Kevin's trackbrackets on LS1. C5 Corvette Rotors. That's all I did was trim the boss (originally for Baer GT+, but now using Trackbrackets) |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Are there any plans for a C5 onto LS1 setup? What brackets are you using? If you are trimming the upright bosses and using the Trackbrackets then my C5 on Lt1 set will fit. If you are using LG or other brackets that clock the calipers then I'd have to do a new model. I'm using Kevin's trackbrackets on LS1. C5 Corvette Rotors. That's all I did was trim the boss (originally for Baer GT+, but now using Trackbrackets) Then you're set - the C5 on LT1 will fit. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 249 Joined: 16-May 06 From: Detroit, Michigan Member No.: 1,211 ![]() |
Are there any plans for a C5 onto LS1 setup? What brackets are you using? If you are trimming the upright bosses and using the Trackbrackets then my C5 on Lt1 set will fit. If you are using LG or other brackets that clock the calipers then I'd have to do a new model. I'm using the Trackbrackets setup, so I guess it should work for me! Thanks! |
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North of the border ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,307 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Montreal, CANADA Member No.: 177 ![]() |
will this work w/ a Porsche 996 brake setup ? I fabbed them up for Johns car using the steel 2bolt brackets, and upgraded the 2 hub bolts that hold it on. Do you want a set? have any pix ? interested... hell yeah ! just wanna make sure it'll fit w/ the new bracket design that holds the calipers. Thanks, |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
will this work w/ a Porsche 996 brake setup ? I fabbed them up for Johns car using the steel 2bolt brackets, and upgraded the 2 hub bolts that hold it on. Do you want a set? have any pix ? interested... hell yeah ! just wanna make sure it'll fit w/ the new bracket design that holds the calipers. Thanks, Eugenio - Can you post a pic of the bracket you are using? All of the BlaineFab duct plenums look very similar to the LS1 set in the opening post - there are only variations in OD and the position of the caliper clearance offset. |
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North of the border ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,307 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Montreal, CANADA Member No.: 177 ![]() |
Eugenio - Can you post a pic of the bracket you are using? All of the BlaineFab duct plenums look very similar to the LS1 set in the opening post - there are only variations in OD and the position of the caliper clearance offset. Yeah... I have a set of brackets and hub not on the car... I'll mount them and take a few pix and post them... hope that will help. |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
will this work w/ a Porsche 996 brake setup ? I fabbed them up for Johns car using the steel 2bolt brackets, and upgraded the 2 hub bolts that hold it on. Do you want a set? have any pix ? interested... hell yeah ! just wanna make sure it'll fit w/ the new bracket design that holds the calipers. Thanks, Eugenio - Here's some pix of the Blainefab duct plenums on a Porsche 996 brake setup. Note the bracket bolts have been upgraded to 12mm. (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix4/IMG_1763.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix4/IMG_1762.JPG) (IMG:http://www.skyhighway.com/~bfpix4/IMG_1761.JPG) |
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North of the border ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 2,307 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Montreal, CANADA Member No.: 177 ![]() |
From what I can see... it won't interfere w/ anything.... since it goes inside between the spindle and disk.
Anyways, I'll see if I can snap some pix asap. Thanks for those pix. |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 ![]() |
Ok, might be changing cars.
Where do I find rotor ducts for a 85 Camaro with 1LE brakes? |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Ok, might be changing cars. Where do I find rotor ducts for a 85 Camaro with 1LE brakes? I'm working on duct plenums for the 3rd gen with a LS1 or C5 upgrade, but there is no room to get them into the stock/1LE 3rd gen brakes. I could whip up some simple ones that directed the cooling air at the inside face of the stock rotor, but they would not be as effective as my sealed plenums. |
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www.skulte.com ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 345 Joined: 26-October 04 From: W. Hartford, CT Member No.: 515 ![]() |
Where do I find rotor ducts for a 85 Camaro with 1LE brakes? I don't mean to jump into Alan's thread, but I've got the thirdgen ducts available. I've got the 3rd gen spindle digitized, and have prototypes for the 1LE, LS1, and C5 conversions (they have different rotor locations and rotor ID's, so each spindle duct plate is specific to the brake kit). There isn't as much clearance with the 1LE rotor (compared to the C5/LS1 setup), but they are still sealed to the center of the rotor, so all the air is forced through. We're getting backing plates waterjet cut this week, and I'll be TIG welding the beaded 3" hose nipples if you need a set. If you need them right away, you're welcome to the prototypes, and we'll just exchange them once I get the production ones completed. (IMG:http://www.skulte.com/albums/Brake-Duct-Spindle-Hats/brakeduct_wireframe.sized.gif) This post has been edited by z28tt: Feb 25 2008, 02:59 PM |
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 20-May 08 Member No.: 2,201 ![]() |
Are these still available for 4th gen stock LS1 brake setup?
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 934 Joined: 7-March 06 Member No.: 1,113 ![]() |
Are these still available for 4th gen stock LS1 brake setup? Yes they are, PM me to order, or call me at 831 427-3296 evenings or email me at ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com Not to hijack, but I wanted to report a favorable outing with Alans plenums which I ran at the recent NFME at Memphis which has a couple of hard braking zones. I completely rebuilt my C5 front & LT1 rear brakes to include Alan's plenums on the front and Carbotech pads and they performed flawlessly. I never had even a tinge of fade with ATE Super Blue fluid. I just love stepping on the brakes and knowing they are all in..... I had passengers for all of my runs and they all commented on the sure braking. Now its back to work on the brake hop however...... Thanks Alan. Bock |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
I wanted to report a favorable outing with Alans plenums which I ran at the recent NFME at Memphis which has a couple of hard braking zones. I completely rebuilt my C5 front & LT1 rear brakes to include Alan's plenums on the front and Carbotech pads and they performed flawlessly. I never had even a tinge of fade with ATE Super Blue fluid. Bock Thank you, Bock! Feedback is always welcome, especially the good kind! Jason can fix you up on the axle tramp: info@UnbalancedEngineering.com |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
I've added 3 new versions of the Blainefab duct plenums for popular aftermarket 4th gen front brake setups:
Wilwood 140-7190 6 piston SL6 with 12.9 x 1.25" 2pc rotors Stoptech ST-40H 4 piston with 332 x 32mm rotors Baer/Alcon with 13" x 1" rotors Baer 6R with 14" rotors All versions include new hub mounting bolts and other hardware, plus 2 stainless hose clamps for attaching your ducts. All new versions are $295 + shipping + CA sales tax for deliveries in CA. Duct hose and NACA ducts are also available. Here's the Wilwood duct plenum: (IMG:http://www.blainefabrication.com/projects/2010_08_31/IMG_3792.JPG) This post has been edited by Blainefab: Jun 17 2015, 08:33 PM |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 431 Joined: 2-November 07 From: Gilroy, CA Member No.: 1,989 ![]() |
I wanted to report a favorable outing with Alans plenums which I ran at the recent NFME at Memphis which has a couple of hard braking zones. I completely rebuilt my C5 front & LT1 rear brakes to include Alan's plenums on the front and Carbotech pads and they performed flawlessly. I never had even a tinge of fade with ATE Super Blue fluid. Bock Thank you, Bock! Feedback is always welcome, especially the good kind! Jason can fix you up on the axle tramp: info@UnbalancedEngineering.com YES - Definitely call Jason... :-) His TQ arm will solve all your braking woes... and you'll even like the better handling and accel from it too :-) |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 41 Joined: 6-January 04 Member No.: 102 ![]() |
Anything available for ls1 Camaro with the Prospeed (Porsche caliper and rotor)kit?
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Anything available for ls1 Camaro with the Prospeed (Porsche caliper and rotor)kit? Yes, I've built several duct plenum setups for the ProSpeed brakes. I include upgraded 12mm hardware for the bracket attachment, ref: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?sho...=10173&st=0 $295 complete with all mounting hardware and a pair of SS 3" duct hose clamps. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 98 Joined: 4-October 06 Member No.: 1,394 ![]() |
QUOTE (Blainefab) Thank you, Bock! Feedback is always welcome, especially the good kind! Finally put mine on for the last race of the year this weekend, especially since we're at Eagles Canyon.Fantastic kit and I look forward to putting the car on it's nose. More good feedback on Monday. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 98 Joined: 4-October 06 Member No.: 1,394 ![]() |
QUOTE (FBody383) Fantastic kit and I look forward to putting the car on it's nose. More good feedback on Monday. Rediculous.I had some brake fade in the last race at the Hallett event in June and since I was going to flush and re-pad, I put the ducts on while it was apart. Raced this weekend at Eagles Canyon and although several folks had some fade issues, I had absolutely none. Carbotech XP-10 in the front, stock in the rear and running fresh Castrol LMA. Pedal felt better through the weekend than I ever remember over the two years racing the car. Simply fantastic; why did I wait so long to put them on? Another satisfied customer. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 225 Joined: 23-August 07 From: Cumming, GA Member No.: 1,914 ![]() |
Hi Alan. I'm interested in your your 14" Baer setup. That should suit my custom 14" Brembo setup. Put me down for a set please with shipping to 30041.
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Hi Alan. I'm interested in your your 14" Baer setup. That should suit my custom 14" Brembo setup. Put me down for a set please with shipping to 30041. Ilario - Yes, I can make duct plenums for your Brembo brakes - I'll need 2 dimensions: - The inside diameter of the inner rotor cheek - The depth of the rotor, from the face of the inner cheek to the hub mounting face PM sent on cost and payment |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 225 Joined: 23-August 07 From: Cumming, GA Member No.: 1,914 ![]() |
Hi Alan. I'm interested in your your 14" Baer setup. That should suit my custom 14" Brembo setup. Put me down for a set please with shipping to 30041. Ilario - Yes, I can make duct plenums for your Brembo brakes - I'll need 2 dimensions: - The inside diameter of the inner rotor cheek - The depth of the rotor, from the face of the inner cheek to the hub mounting face PM sent on cost and payment Thanks Alan. Pricing is fine. I'll try get those dimensions to you within the next five/six days or so. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 225 Joined: 23-August 07 From: Cumming, GA Member No.: 1,914 ![]() |
Hi Alan. I'm interested in your your 14" Baer setup. That should suit my custom 14" Brembo setup. Put me down for a set please with shipping to 30041. Ilario - Yes, I can make duct plenums for your Brembo brakes - I'll need 2 dimensions: - The inside diameter of the inner rotor cheek - The depth of the rotor, from the face of the inner cheek to the hub mounting face PM sent on cost and payment Thanks Alan. Pricing is fine. I'll try get those dimensions to you within the next five/six days or so. PM sent. |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
See updated pricing on the LS1 brake duct plenums, post #1 of this thread. They are the most labor intensive to construct, and I would rather discontinue them since most users now have moved on the C6 or Wilwood or Stoptech brakes. I will leave them on the available list for a while, but at a higher price that reflects the build labor. I hope that this will shake used sets off of garage shelves and back into the market.
None of the models of duct plenums will fit the latest Timken wide body hubs. I have tried to develop a reasonably efficent manufacturing process to accommodate those hubs, and it is not happening with the tooling I have at my disposal. I recommend SKF hubs. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 240 Joined: 19-January 12 Member No.: 141,541 ![]() |
Alan, I know we talked about the SKF hubs a while back.
I've had some setbacks on the car so still inconclusive if there is any significant improvement over the Timkens, but at this point I can still recommend them as "equals" to the Timkens, especially considering you can get them with warranty at Oreilly under their masterpro line now. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
Alan, I know we talked about the SKF hubs a while back. I've had some setbacks on the car so still inconclusive if there is any significant improvement over the Timkens, but at this point I can still recommend them as "equals" to the Timkens, especially considering you can get them with warranty at Oreilly under their masterpro line now. Oreillys "Precision" brand has factory dimensions and is working well for me. Different parts come in the box, so far a MOOG and a National. Both have done better than any Timken I have run. |
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 240 Joined: 19-January 12 Member No.: 141,541 ![]() |
Alan, I know we talked about the SKF hubs a while back. I've had some setbacks on the car so still inconclusive if there is any significant improvement over the Timkens, but at this point I can still recommend them as "equals" to the Timkens, especially considering you can get them with warranty at Oreilly under their masterpro line now. Oreillys "Precision" brand has factory dimensions and is working well for me. Different parts come in the box, so far a MOOG and a National. Both have done better than any Timken I have run. Yeah, but if you look closely they all come out of the same factory in Korea that SKF get's theirs from. Everything about those hubs from the pics you posted are identical to the SKF I checked out at NAPA (under their most premium offering). The nice thing is the bodies are smooth, narrow, and machine. The Timkens look like someone melted up some British cars and poured them into a mold made of leftover cement or something lol. I just want to get through Hallet with what I have, then probably convert to 3rd gen style hubs over the summer. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Casselberry FL Member No.: 206 ![]() |
I've replaced my hubs with Timkens the last few years, and replaced one just a few weeks ago. How can I distinguish widebody Timkens?
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 26-April 14 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 223,810 ![]() |
Likewise, I went with the Timken hub during my last swap and would love to know how to determine if I have the "widebody" version.
Guess I could order a set of the ducts and if they don't fit, then I know! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Likewise, I went with the Timken hub during my last swap and would love to know how to determine if I have the "widebody" version. Guess I could order a set of the ducts and if they don't fit, then I know! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) All hub bodies used to be cylindrical in shape, then Timken came out with a slightly tapered, wider at the bolt flange, version. These would fit the duct plenums with a little trimming. Then they changed to a more wider at the bottom, more tapered shape body. These do not leave enough flat space to adequately anchor the duct plenums, and in use do not show any substantive improvement in service life over the earlier versions. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,099 Joined: 14-October 06 From: Mobile, Al Member No.: 1,410 ![]() |
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 26-April 14 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 223,810 ![]() |
Thanks FFB! Winner here....one OEM front hub and one newer "widebody" Timken.
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,697 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Casselberry FL Member No.: 206 ![]() |
Any idea if the SKF hubs & adapters are compatible with one of these plenum kits?
http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=17383 |
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I build race cars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 ![]() |
Any idea if the SKF hubs & adapters are compatible with one of these plenum kits? http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=17383 Jim - Yes, I make duct plenums for the Dulaney brackets, just need to know what rotor and caliper you are are using. Cost is $355 + $16 shipping via USPS Priority Mail. This post has been edited by Blainefab: Oct 6 2017, 07:13 PM |
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