 1992 Camaro Z28, Whole car or parts. I want a C4! |
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 Nov 15 2010, 06:42 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin  Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196  |
Ok. I'm going to take one try at actually getting rid of this thing. I have a 1992 Camaro Z28 (there's a 21 page thread here: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?sho...=1992&st=20 ). I have about a million dollars in this thing. I am looking to sell everything but the engine, computer and ignition parts. I want to find a 1991 C4 Corvette (M6) to stuff my engine into (If I can't manage to sell this thing towards the Corvette, I guess I may have to finish it, but I really want to move on to other things now).
I can't begin to guess what market value on this car might be... The cage was built from parts from Alan Blaine and the car should be quite stout. I have over $1,400 invested in the parts for the cage (not counting materials for welding, paint and installation). The seat was bought new for the car and was $800 and there is a fiberglass cowl induction hood on the car (a "few hundred" bucks) and an Alan Blaine lexan rear spoiler. If someone wanted the cage, seat and shell (bare, with tail lights and such but no factory wiring harness, just a shell, cage and seat)... How about $4k or best offer. T56 (LT1), bellhousing, GM factory flywheel, clutch (Centerforce DF with 1,200 miles on it). $1,400 OBO B&M Ripper for T56 with Hurst black 6 speed knob. $125 OBO I don't even have prices for all of this yet and it's late, so I'll list parts and finish this in the morning...or when I get to it. Afco radiator with built in oil cooler. Baker Precision power steering cooler. Earls 13 row stacked platet cooler with 6 AN fittings (brand new) Lingenfelter 3.5" aluminum driveshaft. EB Miller C4HD brake kit A "pile" of new Autometer gauges (tach, speedo, fuel gauge, water temp, oil temp, another oil temp, extra oil temp senders, oil pressure, voltmeter and maybe some I'm forgetting). PC680MJT battery and bracket (new) with top mount terminals added. 3 quart high pressure accusump (brand new in the box) Ground control weight jacks (front and rear, 1000 in lb front springs, 225 in lb rear) Suspension techniques 35mm front sway bar with hardware Factory 36mm hollow front sway bar Steering column (gutted of all things that aren't needed) with a Grant steering wheel and a quick release hub. Front control arms with energy suspension bushings. Full set of 3rd gen Koni SA's SFI window net Window net hardware kit Helmet Hook Steering wheel hook LCA's, PHB, Camber plates Wink 4 panel mirror Disk brake rear axle (aftermarket axles, eaton posi, 3.73 gears, aluminum support girdle, etc) New Harwood lexan windshield. SLP headers "Shorty" exhaust (headers to a dump at the rear axle) with magnaflow race muffler. Remote start solenoid (2) 250 amp "contactors" (one was to disconnect the alternator, the other was to work as a remote master switch). Sold by Painless wiring. 60 amp breaker (water proof) 100 amp breaker (water proof) I'm sure there's more...and I'll add it later (and try to sort out prices, I don't even know what the prices are for this stuff anymore, I've lost interest to the point that I've lost track of the prices of most of this stuff these days). Anyway, is there enough interest in this stuff to actually move enough of it to get this thing out of my garage? If anybody is interested in parts, speak up, we'll work out prices and see if I can sell enough to get rid of it all. |
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Nov 15 2010, 03:10 PM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
Again!
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Nov 15 2010, 03:53 PM
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Mullet club chairman Group: Advanced Members Posts: 786 Joined: 25-March 06 From: South Bend IN Member No.: 1,135 |
heh, I have a Dana 44 C-beam, trailing arms, and a few other bits and pieces for a C4 that I didnt use in my Camaro, lets make a deal! LOL (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Nov 15 2010, 03:55 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 15 2010, 10:10 AM)  Again! Yup. One last time. I may find myself getting remarried soon and this car no longer fits into any of my plans. I've pretty well lost interest in it and wish I had a street car that I can enjoy on a regular basis. So, I figured I'd take one last shot at getting rid of it before it rots in my garage or gets dumped on craigs list or ebay. I'm starting to reach the point of just wanting it gone...again. |
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Nov 16 2010, 12:40 AM
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I suck at the auto-x :( Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,421 Joined: 21-April 05 From: TX Member No.: 727 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 15 2010, 09:55 AM) QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 15 2010, 10:10 AM) Again! Yup. One last time. I may find myself getting remarried soon and this car no longer fits into any of my plans. I've pretty well lost interest in it and wish I had a street car that I can enjoy on a regular basis. So, I figured I'd take one last shot at getting rid of it before it rots in my garage or gets dumped on craigs list or ebay. I'm starting to reach the point of just wanting it gone...again. I don't mean to be an asshole (too much of one anyway), but didn't you sell your street car to get this one? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) |
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Nov 16 2010, 01:26 AM
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Nothing says 'I love you.' like a box of Hydroshoks Group: Moderators Posts: 5,284 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Granbury, TX Member No.: 4 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 15 2010, 09:55 AM) QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 15 2010, 10:10 AM) Again! Yup. One last time. I may find myself getting remarried soon and this car no longer fits into any of my plans. I've pretty well lost interest in it and wish I had a street car that I can enjoy on a regular basis. So, I figured I'd take one last shot at getting rid of it before it rots in my garage or gets dumped on craigs list or ebay. I'm starting to reach the point of just wanting it gone...again. I don't mean to be an asshole, but didn't you just get single? |
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Nov 16 2010, 02:14 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,290 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331 |
I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers.
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Nov 16 2010, 03:17 AM
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I suck at the auto-x :( Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,421 Joined: 21-April 05 From: TX Member No.: 727 |
QUOTE (mitchntx @ Nov 15 2010, 07:26 PM) I don't mean to be an asshole, but didn't you just get single? QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 08:14 PM) I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers. Guys, quit being assholes in Kevin's thread, he's trying to sell a car here. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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Nov 16 2010, 03:54 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Mojave @ Nov 15 2010, 07:40 PM) I don't mean to be an asshole (too much of one anyway), but didn't you sell your street car to get this one? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Yup, sure did. At the time I was married and had a budget to go racing and lord knows I wasn't really wanting to spend time at home with my wife...lol QUOTE (mitchntx @ Nov 15 2010, 08:26 PM) I don't mean to be an asshole, but didn't you just get single? It's been a few years now (believe it or not). QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 09:14 PM) I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers. Yes you did....asshole. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) QUOTE (Mojave @ Nov 15 2010, 10:17 PM) Guys, quit being assholes in Kevin's thread, he's trying to sell a car here. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rotf.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I was just about to ask if you wanted a moderator job, then I realized you started this whole thing... (Ban 'em Mitch!) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) lol |
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Nov 16 2010, 03:56 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
I had an email about someone who might be interested in the whole car, or a large portion of it. I'd love to move it in one piece (mostly one piece?) so I'm going to see how that goes before I start pulling parts off.
Also, most everything listed is new, virtually new or "out of the box and bolted on a car that's never even been started" new. |
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Nov 16 2010, 05:46 AM
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Grumpy Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,722 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Bakersfield CA Member No.: 81 |
I have been thinking the samething Kevin, ditch the race car and by a c5 for TT weekends. But I'll just end up doing the samething to it.
Isn't the car pretty close to being done? It might be easier to sell if it's running. Good luck with the sale bud. You know we got to rib ya a little. |
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Nov 16 2010, 03:04 PM
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Mullet club chairman Group: Advanced Members Posts: 786 Joined: 25-March 06 From: South Bend IN Member No.: 1,135 |
QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 09:14 PM) I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers. LOL!!! That makes two of us! Now I don't feel so bad.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) This site has more assholes than a pack of hotdogs... |
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Nov 16 2010, 05:42 PM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,290 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Nov 15 2010, 10:54 PM) QUOTE (slowTA @ Nov 15 2010, 09:14 PM) I don't mean to be an asshole, but I sent you a PM with extremely low offers. Yes you did....asshole. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) Hey, what's with the name-calling? |
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Nov 16 2010, 06:00 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Nov 16 2010, 12:46 AM) I have been thinking the samething Kevin, ditch the race car and by a c5 for TT weekends. But I'll just end up doing the samething to it. Isn't the car pretty close to being done? It might be easier to sell if it's running. Good luck with the sale bud. You know we got to rib ya a little. Depends. If I'm buying a C4, it won't be running because I'm keeping the engine... If a deal goes through on the whole thing, then I'll go to plan B (C5?). |
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Nov 23 2010, 07:01 AM
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 18-August 08 From: California Member No.: 2,277 |
damn Kevin. I hate to hear this but I guess it's for good reason. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'll PM you shortly with my wish list. Wish I was closer and wasn't so deep into my build, I'd have just bought yours. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)
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Dec 29 2010, 08:50 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (TPIJAY @ Nov 23 2010, 02:01 AM) damn Kevin. I hate to hear this but I guess it's for good reason. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Nah, it's not really for a good reason. I'm just bored and lazy. However, it appears that the only thing to do with this car right now is to get it running. The market is currently so soft on cars that I'd be better off lighting it on fire instead of selling it, I'd lose about the same amount of money either way. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Guess I'm going to just have to keep it for now. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I guess I could always cut out the cage and buy some doors and interior parts for it and pretend it's a street car (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) |
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Dec 30 2010, 02:48 AM
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I suck at the auto-x :( Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,421 Joined: 21-April 05 From: TX Member No.: 727 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 29 2010, 02:50 PM) Nah, it's not really for a good reason. I'm just bored and lazy. However, it appears that the only thing to do with this car right now is to get it running. The market is currently so soft on cars that I'd be better off lighting it on fire instead of selling it, I'd lose about the same amount of money either way. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Guess I'm going to just have to keep it for now. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I guess I could always cut out the cage and buy some doors and interior parts for it and pretend it's a street car (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) You don't need door panels to pretend it's a street car. Get it going! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Dec 30 2010, 02:57 AM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Mojave @ Dec 29 2010, 09:48 PM) QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 29 2010, 02:50 PM) I guess I could always cut out the cage and buy some doors and interior parts for it and pretend it's a street car (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif) You don't need door panels to pretend it's a street car. Get it going! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I just wanted windows so I could lock it....lol |
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Dec 30 2010, 01:30 PM
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Nitto Destroyer! Group: Advanced Members Posts: 248 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Rochester NY Member No.: 29 |
Since this this tread has gone the ASSHOLE route....figured I could add nothing........................... But you may want to consider a nice 2001 Camaro SS 35k miles and fairly inexpensive...just saying!!!!!!!! Streetable with working a/c and radio. 440 rwhp!:) Oh and it has windows!
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Dec 30 2010, 01:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 |
If you decide on a Camaro this one is a serious car. Very well prepped by Gateway and runs low 30s at Mosport.
http://timewarpracingcars.shutterfly.com/racecarsforsale/184 |
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Dec 30 2010, 09:50 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 30 2010, 05:36 AM) If you decide on a Camaro this one is a serious car. Very well prepped by Gateway and runs low 30s at Mosport. http://timewarpracingcars.shutterfly.com/racecarsforsale/184 So, builders/tech inspectors - from these pics, how many CCR violations can you spot in this car? Probably still a nice car, most of what I'm seeing could be fixed in a day. |
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Dec 31 2010, 06:25 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 |
Excuse my ignorance but what is a CCR violation? Is it a tech requirement not being met?
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Dec 31 2010, 08:53 AM
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ReEntryRacer Group: Advanced Members Posts: 618 Joined: 8-December 04 From: British Columbia, Canada Member No.: 569 |
QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 30 2010, 10:25 PM) Excuse my ignorance but what is a CCR violation? Is it a tech requirement not being met? Same as GCRs in CACC in Canada I think. |
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Dec 31 2010, 10:53 AM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Dec 30 2010, 10:25 PM) Excuse my ignorance but what is a CCR violation? Is it a tech requirement not being met? Yes, NASA CCR = SCCA GCR |
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Dec 31 2010, 06:19 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 413 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Schomberg, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 59 |
Ok, So what are the violations?
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Jan 1 2011, 01:03 AM
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Veteran Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,511 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Homer Glen, IL Member No.: 540 |
-Main hoop back stays at too acute angles
-Roll bar padding by driver's head is wrong type. -Fire system pull likely out of reach by driver while strapped in. And I'm gone for New Years. |
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Jan 2 2011, 08:51 AM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (nape @ Dec 31 2010, 05:03 PM) -Main hoop back stays at too acute angles -Roll bar padding by driver's head is wrong type. -Fire system pull likely out of reach by driver while strapped in. And I'm gone for New Years. I spotted 7 items, but, missed the fire pull location, so 8 My list: too soft padding cutoff switch terminals exposed harness wrap wrong - check 3bar adjusters on pass side I don't see a back brace on the seat fuel cell vent plumbing exposed backstay angle possibly wrong, needs to be measured. If angle is OK then there is the problem of where they land - no structure there. sharp corner of switch panel pointing at drivers knee. and a good catch by TJ on the fire pull location |
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Jan 4 2011, 07:16 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 181 Joined: 13-January 04 From: Bloomington, IL Member No.: 122 |
Why not drop a stock LT1 in it and run CMC2?
Sell the hood and lexan windshield. Tack weld the weight jackers and you're legal. Kent Owen's has a good motor for $1,500 for sale. Sidney CMC2 #64 |
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Jan 4 2011, 08:04 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Sidney @ Jan 4 2011, 02:16 PM) Why not drop a stock LT1 in it and run CMC2? Sell the hood and lexan windshield. Tack weld the weight jackers and you're legal. Kent Owen's has a good motor for $1,500 for sale. Sidney CMC2 #64 Interesting idea but the cage goes through the firewall (and there is no factory dash, and I think the C4HD brakes are illegal too). And I vowed to avoid an opti spark equipped engine at all costs in anything...ever. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jan 4 2011, 08:41 PM
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I build race cars Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,748 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Central coast, CA Member No.: 874 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 4 2011, 12:04 PM) Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Fabbing a dash would be trivial compared to the effort you have invested so far - wrap it up and target AI. |
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Jan 4 2011, 09:19 PM
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FRRAX Owner/Admin Group: Admin Posts: 15,432 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 196 |
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Jan 4 2011, 03:41 PM) QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 4 2011, 12:04 PM) Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Fabbing a dash would be trivial compared to the effort you have invested so far - wrap it up and target AI. Thanks Alan. Some days I forget the effort expended so far (since I basically quit). You have a good point. |
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Jan 5 2011, 04:07 PM
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Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 181 Joined: 13-January 04 From: Bloomington, IL Member No.: 122 |
QUOTE (trackbird @ Jan 4 2011, 02:04 PM) QUOTE (Sidney @ Jan 4 2011, 02:16 PM) Why not drop a stock LT1 in it and run CMC2? Sell the hood and lexan windshield. Tack weld the weight jackers and you're legal. Kent Owen's has a good motor for $1,500 for sale. Sidney CMC2 #64 Interesting idea but the cage goes through the firewall (and there is no factory dash, and I think the C4HD brakes are illegal too). And I vowed to avoid an opti spark equipped engine at all costs in anything...ever. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Sadly the dash rule makes this an AIX car that's light on power. But we'll sort that out later I guess... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Cut the cage, cut a stock dash to fit, Brakes are legal in CMC2, use a 350 with a carb...it's that simple! Sidney |
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