[Blainefab]

Announcing Group Purchase pricing on Blaine Fab's Lexan rear spoiler: The spoiler replaces the OEM spoiler for approx 7# weight saving. All hardware is stainless steel and aluminum. Angle of spoiler is adjustable from approx straight up to approx 45deg layback. Adjustment is accomplished without use of tools. The spoiler is mounted by drilling 10 holes thru the rear of the decklid, and bolting it on. The RR version has been proven on ITE, AI and CMC cars.

Normal pricing (prices do not include shipping or CA sales tax for deliveries in CA) on the BF spoiler is:
Open Road Race 5" $390
Road Race 7.5" $400
Prepared autox 10" $430

For this GP, for a total of 3 to 5 sales (combined any version) I will drop the prices 15%, ie:
Open Road Race 5" $332
Road Race 7.5" $340
Prepared autox 10" $366

If the GP generates a total of 6 or more sales (combined any version) I will drop the prices 20%, ie:
Open Road Race 5" $312
Road Race 7.5" $320
Prepared autox 10" $344

I will leave the GP open for 10days, please post interest or questions on this thread. For a firm order, please PM me or email me at ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com, or call the shop at 831 427-3296.

Here is the spoiler on a 94 T/A:

(IMG:http://www.geckoranch.com/cars/images/spoilerbig.jpg)

And on a 4th gen Camaro:

(IMG:http://gallery.noid.org/albums/album23/Picture_006.sized.jpg)


Thanks and regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication

This post has been edited by Blainefab: Apr 6 2006, 11:35 AM

[John_D.]

I´m interested in the RR 7.5".

[Nick]

Do you have anything for third gens?

[Blainefab]

Do you have anything for third gens?

If the 3rd gen Camaro decklid is shaped the same as the early 3rd gen Pontiac, then I can make a template off the car I have in the shop now.

[axoid]

If the 3rd gen Camaro decklid is shaped the same as the early 3rd gen Pontiac, then I can make a template off the car I have in the shop now.

The 3rd gens rear decks were identical and unchanged ( The part that is attached to the hatch ) all through the run. Only the spoilers changed. Now the edges of the rear deck that are part of the fender are different between the Camaro and Firbird. The Firebirds rear fenders are a little wider.

[Blainefab]

Yes I can make a 3rd gen version - same pricing as the other models.

[Jon A]

That's it. I'll take one. Now for the size questions....

Are the heights for the Camaro versions measured from the top of the hatch or the fenders? You can see what I'm getting at as the Camaro hatch slopes down about 3" below flush.

In short, I'm thinking about the 10" instead of the 7" since I'm in the process of addressing the front in a big way right now. Have any of your customers with the 7" on a Camaro had a really big splitter in front? When I'm done with the front I'm concerned about being able to balance out the rear. I'd rather have a spoiler that's a little too long and run it at a more layed back angle (even though that's slightly less efficient) than get everything built and find the car is tailhappy at high speed even with it vertical. If I'm going to err in one way or the other I'd rather err on having too much in the rear.

Is my reasoning on track here Alan? I'm not too concerned if I knock off an extra couple MPH at the end of the front straight...I'll be going too damn fast there anyway. Has anybody used larger than 7" on the track? Or do you think the 7" when set vertical will keep up with anything I can do to the front?

For those who haven't, check out Volume 15, numbers 2 and 3 HERE. Personally I didn't realize the angle of the spoiler made such a huge difference. The adjustable angle will be a hugely useful tool for those of us without wind tunnels. My current Freedom Design spoiler stands close to 8" off the rear hatch but it's layed back at around 30 degrees. Probably a good match for front breather/airdam front but there's no way it'll keep up with a splitter added to the front.

[Blainefab]

That's it. I'll take one. Now for the size questions....

Jon -Great!

The height is measured from the surface of the hatch, which is about 1.5" below the top of the Camaro fender at the point where the spoiler is mounted. The Camaro fenders may act as small endplates, and the effect might be enhanced by sealing the decklid/fender gap with duct tape.

I can make the spoiler whatever height you want, tho my gut feel is that 10" would be too high for RR duty, especially on a fastish track with a fast car. If I left the brackets at the 7.5" level and the Lexan taller, you would have the option of trimming the Lexan - it cuts nicely with a jig saw with a coarse blade at slow/med speed.

Data points to help you decide on a height:
This is what I settled on for my ITE/AIX car - it is 6.5" tall and fixed angle which is about at the midpoint of the range of adjustability of my current version:

(IMG:http://www.apcom.com/fbody/blaine/RIMG0533.JPG)

The front has no splitter - the airdam will touch pavement in a hard uphill braking zone. There are angled plates filling the headlight openings, and side skirts which have been worn to fit also:

(IMG:http://www.apcom.com/fbody/blaine/RIMG0502.JPG)

With this aero package the car is quite loose off throttle at high RR speed - I like it that way, but I raised the spoiler height one inch to 7.5" to raise the upper end of available downforce for folks that like a more neutral balance.

I'm not sure how much my rear diffusor adds to the whole package - I was a lot faster after I installed it, but I did make other changes too, and it was an off season change and I had a whole winter of tracking the Vette to tune the driver up. Maybe the 25# low and rearward matters as much as any measureable downforce it provides. Hopefully will soon be in a position to do some with/without testing.

Perhaps Nick and Jason could chime in with their observations of the 7.5" BF spoiler on the #45 AI car with an airdam similar to my car, vs on the CMC car with just a 1" lower extension of the OEM chin spoiler.

My SWAG is that a proper splitter will let you use a slightly taller than 7.5" - say 8.5 or 9" tall spoiler.

[Blainefab]

Allright - the GP is getting off to a good start! - AndyJ has an order in, JonA will soon, and if JohnD orders one we will be at the 15% discount level. A third gen or so and we are getting close to the 20% level. Please PM me or email to ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com with a firm order with ship to address and zip code so I can calculate shipping cost.

I will need payment by or soon after close of the GP - I can accept check/MO or Paypal - and will ship the spoilers approx 2 weeks later. I will need to know quantity and size before I can order the Lexan sheet.

Thank you!
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication
shop phone 831 427-3296

This post has been edited by Blainefab: Apr 9 2006, 06:52 PM

[rmackintosh]

That's it. I'll take one. Now for the size questions....

Are the heights for the Camaro versions measured from the top of the hatch or the fenders? You can see what I'm getting at as the Camaro hatch slopes down about 3" below flush.

In short, I'm thinking about the 10" instead of the 7" since I'm in the process of addressing the front in a big way right now. Have any of your customers with the 7" on a Camaro had a really big splitter in front? When I'm done with the front I'm concerned about being able to balance out the rear. I'd rather have a spoiler that's a little too long and run it at a more layed back angle (even though that's slightly less efficient) than get everything built and find the car is tailhappy at high speed even with it vertical. If I'm going to err in one way or the other I'd rather err on having too much in the rear.

Is my reasoning on track here Alan? I'm not too concerned if I knock off an extra couple MPH at the end of the front straight...I'll be going too damn fast there anyway. Has anybody used larger than 7" on the track? Or do you think the 7" when set vertical will keep up with anything I can do to the front?

For those who haven't, check out Volume 15, numbers 2 and 3 HERE. Personally I didn't realize the angle of the spoiler made such a huge difference. The adjustable angle will be a hugely useful tool for those of us without wind tunnels. My current Freedom Design spoiler stands close to 8" off the rear hatch but it's layed back at around 30 degrees. Probably a good match for front breather/airdam front but there's no way it'll keep up with a splitter added to the front.

HOLY CRAP JON!?!? Guess we are throwing out the DAILY DRIVER concept of your car eh? Are you hacking up the car to make it track only? Do you have any pics of the front splitter you are doing? I would be interested, but like Alan said, mine hits the ground under hard braking. I want it to survive.

I will say the clear plastic should be better for vision at least on the track....my LGM spoiler KILLS my rear vision in my car.

[Jon A]

Sure I have pics Randy. Here's my progress so far:

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/FrontBreather/PICT0108.JPG)

(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I've got a long way to go, but with no engine to be installing yet I figured I might as well do something useful. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I've got a pile of well over 40 lbs of crap that won't be going back on the car. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I've got it planned out pretty much in my head but I won't know if it all works until I get that far. The plan right now is to have it pretty easily removable with million dzus fasteners and a few support rods going directly to the tubular bumper. Imagine a rigid air dam similar to Alan's with a splitter protruding 2.5-3" from the bottom of it. If it works the way I have planned, it should be quite effective as well as fairly easily removable for the street.

But first things first...Monday a pile of metal will arrive from which to make the tubular bumper...then comes the airbox to the radiator...then the airdam...then finally the splitter.

Alan, I think I like the idea of having some extra that can be trimmed. Will there be any problems with the lexan folding over if it extends too much higher than the brackets?

[maximumvelocity]

How much do the spoilers weigh with all the hardware?

[Blainefab]

How much do the spoilers weigh with all the hardware?

I'll get a weight tomorrow - my notes just say 7# less than the OEM Camaro spoiler.

[Teutonic Speedra...]

I will say the clear plastic should be better for vision at least on the track....my LGM spoiler KILLS my rear vision in my car.

Very true. I just tried mine out for the first time over the weekend. Between the rollbar and the spoiler, I was looking throug a slit!!! Good thing very few were catching me....

[bsim]

If we get two more, I'm in! (and I'm cheap - need the 20%) I'll PM details this afternoon Alan....

Come on fellas - anyone need a spare too? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[rmackintosh]

Sure I have pics Randy. Here's my progress so far:

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/FrontBreather/PICT0108.JPG)

(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I've got a long way to go, but with no engine to be installing yet I figured I might as well do something useful. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I've got a pile of well over 40 lbs of crap that won't be going back on the car. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I've got it planned out pretty much in my head but I won't know if it all works until I get that far. The plan right now is to have it pretty easily removable with million dzus fasteners and a few support rods going directly to the tubular bumper. Imagine a rigid air dam similar to Alan's with a splitter protruding 2.5-3" from the bottom of it. If it works the way I have planned, it should be quite effective as well as fairly easily removable for the street.

But first things first...Monday a pile of metal will arrive from which to make the tubular bumper...then comes the airbox to the radiator...then the airdam...then finally the splitter.

Alan, I think I like the idea of having some extra that can be trimmed. Will there be any problems with the lexan folding over if it extends too much higher than the brackets?

Jon.....been there, done that..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Cool. keep us posted on what you do with that "pile of metal" I am ALWAYS interested in a better way to do the front end. I like Mike's aluminum one, but need it to be easily removable to get in the trailer.

[Blainefab]

How much do the spoilers weigh with all the hardware?

I'll get a weight tomorrow - my notes just say 7# less than the OEM Camaro spoiler.

Shipping wt on the 5" ORR spoiler with all hardware, box and padding is 7.65# My estimate is that the packing
is heavier than the extra 2.5" of Lexan, so figure 7 +-.5# for the RR 7.5" tall.

Alan, I think I like the idea of having some extra that can be trimmed. Will there be any problems with the lexan folding over if it extends too much higher than the brackets?

Jon - I spent today on the road, tomorrow I'll hang a weight off a 2.5" lip of Lexan and measure the deflection. Got a SWAG on the loading @ 140mph? I'm thinking <1psi , given that the area of the RR 7.5" is approx 400 in sq and it apparently doesn't effect the top end of a CMC car.

[AndyJ]

Ok folks,

Here is a picture of MY spoiler sitting on Alan's fab mule. It is now enroute to North Texas in a brown truck.

Price that cheesey, non functional ricer aero crap and then get all over this GP.


(IMG:http://www.texasinterceptors.com/images/spoiler.jpg)


Andy

[Jon A]

At 140 MPH .35 psi. I think .5 psi for the top edge is a nice round conservative number to work with (160 MPH, spoiler at 90 degrees to the airflow with the top getting a clean shot at the air, etc).

[John_D.]

if JohnD orders one we will be at the 15% discount level.



I will need payment by or soon after close of the GP

I'm a definite. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Just let me know which level we made on the GP.

[Blainefab]

We are at 4 for sure so far:

Andy J
Jon A
Brad S
John D

3 days left

Thanks!

[NickS]

That's it. I'll take one. Now for the size questions....

Are the heights for the Camaro versions measured from the top of the hatch or the fenders? You can see what I'm getting at as the Camaro hatch slopes down about 3" below flush.

In short, I'm thinking about the 10" instead of the 7" since I'm in the process of addressing the front in a big way right now. Have any of your customers with the 7" on a Camaro had a really big splitter in front? When I'm done with the front I'm concerned about being able to balance out the rear. I'd rather have a spoiler that's a little too long and run it at a more layed back angle (even though that's slightly less efficient) than get everything built and find the car is tailhappy at high speed even with it vertical. If I'm going to err in one way or the other I'd rather err on having too much in the rear.

Is my reasoning on track here Alan? I'm not too concerned if I knock off an extra couple MPH at the end of the front straight...I'll be going too damn fast there anyway. Has anybody used larger than 7" on the track? Or do you think the 7" when set vertical will keep up with anything I can do to the front?

For those who haven't, check out Volume 15, numbers 2 and 3 HERE. Personally I didn't realize the angle of the spoiler made such a huge difference. The adjustable angle will be a hugely useful tool for those of us without wind tunnels. My current Freedom Design spoiler stands close to 8" off the rear hatch but it's layed back at around 30 degrees. Probably a good match for front breather/airdam front but there's no way it'll keep up with a splitter added to the front.

Jon -

I read those very same articles last year!

I think I can provide a bit of feedback on the effectiveness of the 7" spoiler. I ran that spoiler on the red car in both CMC and AI trim and I run it on the yellow car in CMC trim.

The red car in CMC trim didn't have any aero work up front, so I ran it at about 60 degrees. Anything more and I picked up a bit of a high speed push.

(IMG:http://gallery.noid.org/albums/album23/Picture_007.sized.jpg)

In AI trim without any aero work up front, we kept the spoiler in about the same location:

(IMG:http://gallery.noid.org/albums/album09/picture03.sized.jpg)

Once we added the front skirt tho, that made it a completely different animal. We stood the spoiler all the way up and then taped down the edges to prevent air spillage around the edges and that just about balanced things out (see the bpic below). I don't think we had a chance to run the car balls out with the radiator exhaust exiting over the hood, but we expected to have had more front end grip requiring more in the back (or less in the front).

(IMG:http://gallery.noid.org/albums/album09/picture02.jpg)

The yellow CMC car has the same wing, but I've added a front skirt around the radiator deflector. I think I'm running this car's spoiler a bit more upright than on the red car in CMC trim but I can't remember off hand.

So, in a nutshell, the 7" one seems to be Ok with the airdam up front, but I think once you start to get psychotic with it, you'll want a longer spoiler. You can always trim to fit if you needed to.

Hope that helps!

[Blainefab]

Alan, I think I like the idea of having some extra that can be trimmed. Will there be any problems with the lexan folding over if it extends too much higher than the brackets?

Jon - With a 3" span of Lexan pulled down by 36" of its width by 44#, I measured 3/8" deflection at the load point. Here's a pic of the setup:

I believe the deflection will be negligible even at 10" height. The Lexan is tough, and will not care about the loading.

(IMG:http://members.cruzio.com/~ablaine/wingdef.jpg)

[rmackintosh]

Alan,

I have been thinking of replacing my LGM rear spoiler. It is more looks that effective at this point. But, you know me, looks is important to me (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (just vain I guess). I don't like the look of the removed stock flat "spoiler" with the Lexan set up, but I do like the look on Julie's Trans-Am. What would the effectivness be do you think with your set up ON TOP of the stock flat spoiler sitting like the LGM sits now?

Thanks

[Jon A]

Hope that helps!

Yes it did, very much! Thanks!

I guess it's a 10" for me then Alan. It looks more than strong enough--thanks for checking that out.

[Blainefab]

Alan,

I have been thinking of replacing my LGM rear spoiler. It is more looks that effective at this point. But, you know me, looks is important to me (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) (just vain I guess). I don't like the look of the removed stock flat "spoiler" with the Lexan set up, but I do like the look on Julie's Trans-Am. What would the effectivness be do you think with your set up ON TOP of the stock flat spoiler sitting like the LGM sits now?

Thanks

Randy - You would lose the weight savings from the loss of the OEM spoiler, but if you blocked the gap between the OEM spoiler and the decklid the BF spoiler should should work just fine - maybe better since it would be several inches higher into the airstream. I'd block the gap with an aluminum or CF sheet that blended the leading edge of the OEM spoiler into the decklid near the glass margin

I think the Z28 looks fine with the BF spoiler filling in the gap between the fender 'bat ears', but I agree the T/A looks great - like it came from the factory with the BF wing on it. The 3rd gens should look really good too since it's a straight shot across the decklid and fenders.

Hope that helps!

Yes it did, very much! Thanks!

I guess it's a 10" for me then Alan. It looks more than strong enough--thanks for checking that out.

Yes, thanks a bunch, Nick! OK 10" it is for you Jon.

[Jon A]

The stars must be aligning or something...it appears I've already sold my Freedom Design spoiler and I wasn't even trying yet! It's still on the car. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[rmackintosh]

Randy - You would lose the weight savings from the loss of the OEM spoiler, but if you blocked the gap between the OEM spoiler and the decklid the BF spoiler should should work just fine - maybe better since it would be several inches higher into the airstream. I'd block the gap with an aluminum or CF sheet that blended the leading edge of the OEM spoiler into the decklid near the glass margin

Yeah, but it would be lighter than my CURRENT LGM spoiler....and more effective....I DID think about it being higher after I typed that last one....which is good......however, sealing that slit would be a PITA!

[Blainefab]

Randy - You would lose the weight savings from the loss of the OEM spoiler, but if you blocked the gap between the OEM spoiler and the decklid the BF spoiler should should work just fine - maybe better since it would be several inches higher into the airstream. I'd block the gap with an aluminum or CF sheet that blended the leading edge of the OEM spoiler into the decklid near the glass margin

Yeah, but it would be lighter than my CURRENT LGM spoiler....and more effective....I DID think about it being higher after I typed that last one....which is good......however, sealing that slit would be a PITA!

Sealing the underwing could be as simple as duct taping a length of rollbar padding in there, but a blockoff panel would look better - I'd be glad to fab one for you that would pop rivet in place.

[TTAC5]

Alan, thanks for taking the time to talk with me today about my C5. Please put me down for a 5" as we dicussed. Hope you guys don't mind a Y-body track ho piggybacking on your group. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Blainefab]

Alan, thanks for taking the time to talk with me today about my C5. Please put me down for a 5" as we dicussed. Hope you guys don't mind a Y-body track ho piggybacking on your group. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Thanks for the order, Cass - and welcome to FRRAX! A lot of us here own Ybods too - it's a bit of a natural progression ;-)

The GP is now at the 20% discount level, any other takers? I'll leave it open thru Sunday.

Thanks,
Alan
Blaine Fabrication

[firehawkclone]

I'm in...unless you talked me out of it (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I left a message on your phone Alan

[AndyJ]

Got mine in Friday --- put it on today. It is sweeeeet. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

[transam2k4]

Do you have more pics of this spoiler on the trans am it's i love the look of the oem spoiler but can't get a good idea from that pic at the beginning

[Blainefab]

Do you have more pics of this spoiler on the trans am it's i love the look of the oem spoiler but can't get a good idea from that pic at the beginning

Here's one from yesterday at Thunderhill - the spoiler is covered with raindrops:

(IMG:http://members.cruzio.com/~ablaine/sTAwing.jpg)

And a closeup at the shop - I'll be supplying adhesive backed black rubber or plastic discs to seal the holes in the decklid left from OEM fasteners and harness passthru. I also supply a resistor to plug into the 3rd brake light harness to keep ABS happy:

(IMG:http://members.cruzio.com/~ablaine/sTAwing2.jpg)

[Blainefab]

OK - Here is where we are today - please review the model and height that I have you down for and correct me if it's not right. Jon A and Cass M please PM me with your ship to ZIP. Randy I realized you expressed interest but not commit yet so if you decide against it there will be one available. I will go with the 20% level pricing since I said I would, and I think the last one will get sold one way or the other and allow me to fully utilize the sheet of Lexan.

I'll calculate shipping cost and PM a request for payment today - please send payment ASAP. I should have the Lexan in house by next Monday and start shipping by the end of next week.

Andy J - got ZIP Z28 ORR 5"
Jon A Z28 RR 10"
Brad S - got ZIP Z28 RR 7.5"
John D - got ZIP Z28 RR 7.5"
Randy M - interested? Z28 RR 7.5" top of OEM wing
Cass M - C5 RR 5"

Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication

I'm in...unless you talked me out of it (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I left a message on your phone Alan

Sorry - that model Pontiac has an OEM spoiler that is integrated into the hatch - no way to remove it cleanly, so I can't make one for this car, unless you pick up a T/A hatch for it.

[rmackintosh]

Hey thanks for thinking of my Alan! However, the budget is getting squeezed again. I have some repair from the last weekend coming, and I STILL haven't paid for all the off season upgrades yet. I would like to get out and dial in Jason's new rear shock setup and see where we go from there. I will likely be looking for more rear wing later this year.

[Jon A]

My stock spoiler with the Freedom Design spoiler attached weighs around 19 lbs as near as I can tell. The little trim piece that you need to take off to remove the spoiler weighs 3 lbs. Some easy weight savings.

[NataSS Inc]

ARRRRRRGHGHGHGHASLIFNQ NPRFPIQWRJFCPWQNJRPGUVQNCPOJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RAT FARTS!!!!!!!!!!

I am out of the loop for a little while and miss out on this!

Alan, I left a message at the shop #. give me a call. I may still be interested in a ORR spoiler at regular price (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)

[Blainefab]

ARRRRRRGHGHGHGHASLIFNQ NPRFPIQWRJFCPWQNJRPGUVQNCPOJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RAT FARTS!!!!!!!!!!

I am out of the loop for a little while and miss out on this!

Alan, I left a message at the shop #. give me a call. I may still be interested in a ORR spoiler at regular price :banghead:

No sweat, Boyce - in fact I do have one more spoiler available on the GP, so you got some much needed luck!
PM me with your ZIP and I'll send

This post has been edited by Blainefab: Apr 27 2006, 07:19 PM

[firehawkclone]

ARRRRRRGHGHGHGHASLIFNQ NPRFPIQWRJFCPWQNJRPGUVQNCPOJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RAT FARTS!!!!!!!!!!

I am out of the loop for a little while and miss out on this!

Alan, I left a message at the shop #. give me a call. I may still be interested in a ORR spoiler at regular price (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)

No sweat, Boyce - in fact I do have one more spoiler available on the GP, so you got some much needed luck!
PM me with your ZIP and I'll send

My bad luck is Nate's good luck (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Jon A]

I think I'm gunna need stiffer rear springs....


(IMG:http://members.cruzio.com/~ablaine/sjawing2.jpg)



(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[bsim]

Step 1 - Install Blaine Fab spoiler Friday night between 6:00 and 6:30
Step 2 - Drive to Willow Springs Saturday morning
Step 3 - Collect one gold and one silver medal for the weekend of racing
(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Sure, it could happen to you too, and I'm sure other factors were involved other than the spoiler, but let me tell you, I'm one happy camper with this thing installed.

It literally took me 30 minutes to get the old one off and this one bolted on. And I'm very happily surprised with the adjustability. 1-2 full twists of the turnbuckles made a noticeable difference. I went on track 1st time with an eye-balled adjustment (made it look pretty). Now, my car pushes like a pig, and the first session proved that. A couple of twists to lower the new spoiler, viola, more neutral. How easy is that?

Granted, we were at a real high speed course (2.5 mi Willow Springs - 90+ mph avg lap speed), but I'm more than happy with this purchase.


(IMG:http://www.bsimconsulting.com/stuff/spoiler01.jpg)

This post has been edited by bsim: May 9 2006, 05:46 AM

[AndyJ]

Step 1 - Install Blaine Fab spoiler Friday night between 6:00 and 6:30
Step 2 - Drive to Willow Springs Saturday morning
Step 3 - Collect one gold and one silver medal for the weekend of racing
(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Sure, it could happen to you too, and I'm sure other factors were involved other than the spoiler, but let me tell you, I'm one happy camper with this thing installed.

Damn, ain't that the truth! Here is a pic of how I handled the holes left by the install. Alan gives you the cover up discs but I like this better. I cut the old spoiler and taped it over with white race tape. It worked mucho bueno at 164mph.

(IMG:http://www.texasinterceptors.com/images/ff_spoiler.jpg)

YMMV, FWIW --yada yada yada


(IMG:http://www.texasinterceptors.com/images/ff_b4c_speed.jpg)

This is the car at 145mph- Northbound BBORR 2006. Rake looks pretty good to me and felt *comfortable* at this speed.

I could not tell that these filler pieces altered the performance, And yep, that is a Blaine Fab sticker on the car. It is on there for the same reason the FRRAX sticker is on the front corners. There is a debt owing for all the primo info we get here.

This post has been edited by AndyJ: May 9 2006, 06:32 AM

[bsim]

My thoughts exactly Andy, I'm eyeing the old spoiler and the sawzall every day since the install...

[SSTAT]

Hmmm, just saw this - do you have a web site (Blaine manufacturing)?

[AndyJ]

Hmmm, just saw this - do you have a web site (Blaine manufacturing)?

Alan is active here and a site sponsor.

Blanefab is his user name.

[Blainefab]

Hmmm, just saw this - do you have a web site (Blaine manufacturing)?

I do but it is not very functional, yet. Shop phone is 831 427-3296, my email is ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com

Regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication

[Blainefab]

Just put one on a Gen2 RX7 - turned out kinda nice looking.

(IMG:http://members.cruzio.com/~ablaine/srx7wing2.jpg)
(IMG:http://members.cruzio.com/~ablaine/srx7wing.jpg)

[trackbird]

And yep, that is a Blaine Fab sticker on the car. It is on there for the same reason the FRRAX sticker is on the front corners. There is a debt owing for all the primo info we get here.

Andy, I'm going to have to send you a bigger sticker....... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

[AndyJ]

And yep, that is a Blaine Fab sticker on the car. It is on there for the same reason the FRRAX sticker is on the front corners. There is a debt owing for all the primo info we get here.

Andy, I'm going to have to send you a bigger sticker....... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)

What are you waiting on? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[trackbird]

What are you waiting on? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You to answer your PM's...... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Jon A]

Sorry for the delay, I installed this thing quite a while ago but my car has been camera shy. Anyway, I snapped a few pics today of my Big 10 Inch! (Spoiler):

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0104.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0105.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0109.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0106.jpg)

Those are with it set at roughly 60 degrees, which is the highest setting of the first hole (he provided me with two attachment points). If you crank it down in this hole you can really lay it down. Big as it is, it's hard for me to see it being too much layed way back if you have any front aero work done at all (for roadracing at least). And it can be moved from there to virtually vertical, giving one a huge range of adjustment in rear downforce.

While I like Andy's idea of using chunks of the stock spoiler, mine was already pretty hashed. But those adhesive discs Alan sends with them can look pretty good if you put a coat or two of paint on before sticking them on:

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0108.jpg)


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This post has been edited by Jon A: Jul 17 2006, 08:34 AM

[rmackintosh]

Sorry for the delay, I installed this thing quite a while ago but my car has been camera shy. Anyway, I snapped a few pics today of my Big 10 Inch! (Spoiler):

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0104.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0105.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0109.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0106.jpg)

Those are with it set at roughly 60 degrees, which is the highest setting of the first hole (he provided me with two attachment points). If you crank it down in this hole you can really lay it down. Big as it is, it's hard for me to see it being too much layed way back if you have any front aero work done at all (for roadracing at least). And it can be moved from there to virtually vertical, giving one a huge range of adjustment in rear downforce.

While I like Andy's idea of using chunks of the stock spoiler, mine was already pretty hashed. But those adhesive discs Alan sends with them can look pretty good if you put a coat or two of paint on before sticking them on:

(IMG:http://www.jonaadland.com/Z28/Mods/BFSpoiler/PICT0108.jpg)


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Looks good Jon....as usual..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[robz71lm7]

Beautiful piece. I priced the materials I'd need for making one myself and let me say...that is an attractive price point you're offering them at. And I certainly wouldn't be able to make one that ncie on my first time.

And my God... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I'd love to see how the hell Jon is going to balance that massive spoiler up front.

[rmackintosh]

And my God... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I'd love to see how the hell Jon is going to balance that massive spoiler up front.

:werd: to the MF'in :werd:

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[Jon A]

Oh, it can be done. It shall be done! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It’ll probably take me a few more months, but I’ll post pics and instructions as soon as I get the thing built.

[sgarnett]

Hmmm, I bet a 4th gen would look great with a big F1 wing at the front - kinda like a giant hammerhead shark. Or, for those of us with an LS1 Camaro, a hammerhead catfish.

[Rob Hood]

Kinda curious what one would look like with a bit of tinting to it. Put the tint on the backside, so it wouldn't get wind/debris damage. Not much tint, say 50% or less. You'd definitely still be able to see through it, unlike some other aftermarket spoilers which block rear vision signficantly.

[Blainefab]

Jon - Thanks for painting the patches - I punch them out of teflon coated fiberglass tape, and assumed that paint would not stick. How did you prep them for paint?

Rob - Ya, the coated Lexan is pretty pricey, and shipping is expensive too. UPS also managed to get something sharp thru 2 layers of cardboard and gouge the piece, leaving me with 1 spoiler worth of scrap.

Rob - I think standard auto tint on the spoiler would reflect light and appear opaque, much like what you would see if you look at a tinted hatch from the rear. Shields does offer a bronze tint on some pieces, but all sanctions that I know of prohibit tint front and rear so I would not recommend it for the spoiler, 'cept mebbe on an autocross car.

What you all will find is that the spoiler sucks up a layer of dust and grit on the backside - Use a recommended cleaner: http://racingshields.com/index_files/care.htm and rinse with lots of water. Never rub it dry. If you remove the Lexan panel from the brackets to clean it, do not overtighten the screws when replacing - just snug and then back off 1/8 turn.

[Jon A]

Jon - Thanks for painting the patches - I punch them out of teflon coated fiberglass tape, and assumed that paint would not stick. How did you prep them for paint?

Uhm...oops. I did uhmmm....nothing. I guess we'll see how long it sticks! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I just layed them on a piece of paper, shot them with a coat of primer, a couple coats of color and two coats of clear (I just repainted my fender yet again so I had the stuff on hand). It seemed to stick well, when peeling the backing off and sticking them on, while I tried not to, I did bend them around a bunch and the paint didn't seem to budge. I guess we'll see how long it sticks. They're pretty little, it wouldn't be difficult to paint a new set once a season if need be.

[Teutonic Speedra...]

Oh, it can be done. It shall be done! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It’ll probably take me a few more months, but I’ll post pics and instructions as soon as I get the thing built.

Like others on here, I can't wait to see that! Hopefully you will be done with that before the Northeast is in "Winter Mod Mode"! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Pony Exp.305]

Announcing Group Purchase pricing on Blaine Fab's Lexan rear spoiler: The spoiler replaces the OEM spoiler for approx 7# weight saving. All hardware is stainless steel and aluminum. Angle of spoiler is adjustable from approx straight up to approx 45deg layback. Adjustment is accomplished without use of tools. The spoiler is mounted by drilling 10 holes thru the rear of the decklid, and bolting it on. The RR version has been proven on ITE, AI and CMC cars.

Normal pricing (prices do not include shipping or CA sales tax for deliveries in CA) on the BF spoiler is:
Open Road Race 5" $390
Road Race 7.5" $400
Prepared autox 10" $430

For this GP, for a total of 3 to 5 sales (combined any version) I will drop the prices 15%, ie:
Open Road Race 5" $332
Road Race 7.5" $340
Prepared autox 10" $366

If the GP generates a total of 6 or more sales (combined any version) I will drop the prices 20%, ie:
Open Road Race 5" $312
Road Race 7.5" $320
Prepared autox 10" $344

I will leave the GP open for 10days, please post interest or questions on this thread. For a firm order, please PM me or email me at ablaine (at) cruzio (dot) com, or call the shop at 831 427-3296.

Here is the spoiler on a 94 T/A:

(IMG:http://www.geckoranch.com/cars/images/spoilerbig.jpg)

And on a 4th gen Camaro:

(IMG:http://gallery.noid.org/albums/album23/Picture_006.sized.jpg)


Thanks and regards,
Alan Blaine
Blaine Fabrication

Interesting (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Send one for my Christmas Wish List ?? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Blainefab]

Interesting (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Send one for my Christmas Wish List ?? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'd be glad to! What flavor? BTW, the current GP is here: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=8603
Pricing is still the same, and I have enough materials for a couple more left. Shop is full of nearly made spoilers, let me know if you want me to build you one.

[Pony Exp.305]

Interesting (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Send one for my Christmas Wish List ?? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'd be glad to! What flavor? BTW, the current GP is here: http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=8603
Pricing is still the same, and I have enough materials for a couple more left. Shop is full of nearly made spoilers, let me know if you want me to build you one.

Well, I am short of my money bank because of X-Mas/New year Holidays and plus (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Too much... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I will keep in my mind if I really need...I am working on do install LS2 carburator/T-56 together (Without PCM) on my 2001 Camaro..
I have your address/phone# if I really need one and will call you..
Thanks

[NataSS Inc]

WHEW!!!! Finally got mine on the car yesterday. I'll get some pics up as soon as I can.

[SLICK1851]

Can these be painted?

This post has been edited by SLICK1851: Nov 19 2007, 07:42 PM

[CMC #37]

Can these be painted?

If you do you'll have trouble seeing out of the back of the car. That's the beauty part, you can see throught it!

[Blainefab]

Can these be painted?

Yes, Lexan can be painted - it takes a special plastic paint, but even prepped by the instructions it does not stick very well. It is commonly used for the border around windshields, painted on the backside so not subject to wear and tear. On a spoiler I'm sure it would chip off.

If you have an application that does not need the rear visibility that the Lexan provides then I could make you one with a different material that can be properly painted. 831 427-3296

[Torque]

Hey Alan,

Dunno if this is still open but would love to get in on the GP for my AI build. Another install for me to do prior to handing the car over to you for the cage.

Thx

Eric Fowler
650-302-3667

[Blainefab]

Hi Eric - This thread is quite old, GP was over a year ago. I did build a Z28 spoiler for stock, I'll PM you with a shipped cost.

Thanks! and welcome to frrax!

Hey Alan,

Dunno if this is still open but would love to get in on the GP for my AI build. Another install for me to do prior to handing the car over to you for the cage.

Thx

Eric Fowler
650-302-3667