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 Apr 6 2007, 09:16 PM
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saw a segment on the news about the 2012 requirent for vehicles to have anti-rollover potection. The technology uses braking and steering control to reduce the chance of rollover. do you think this will kill autocrossing?
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Apr 7 2007, 01:08 AM
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Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,289 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Kenvil, NJ Member No.: 331 |
I'm on the fence about this one.
On one hand you know there are people who need it most of the time and others who would only use it once in a while. Saying even the best driver never needs it is completely wrong. As for the sporting side of things, I see how it can be used as a training device (assuming it has a big light that lets you know when it is working). I can also see how it is an unfair advantage. This can also keep people from being scared of driving their rear wheel drive cars in the winter! Would we need a stabilitrack class for autocross, a completely different PAX system, can we tell everyone to shut it off (and actually enforce it)? Damned if I know the answer. |
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Apr 7 2007, 04:08 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 255 Joined: 3-June 04 Member No.: 355 |
It does things you can't do (braking on just one wheel), so in theory a car with stability control should be faster. Also, you can tune a car a bit more neutrally, but the electronics make it act like it has safe understeer. So far really good drivers are still faster, but who knows how long that will last. The one advantage humans have is anticipation, which reactive electronics can never do.
I'd say "bring it on." So far the electronically enhanced cars are not dominating autocross. QUOTE (slowTA @ Apr 6 2007, 07:08 PM)  I'm on the fence about this one.
On one hand you know there are people who need it most of the time and others who would only use it once in a while. Saying even the best driver never needs it is completely wrong. As for the sporting side of things, I see how it can be used as a training device (assuming it has a big light that lets you know when it is working). I can also see how it is an unfair advantage. This can also keep people from being scared of driving their rear wheel drive cars in the winter! Would we need a stabilitrack class for autocross, a completely different PAX system, can we tell everyone to shut it off (and actually enforce it)? Damned if I know the answer. |
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