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CMC#5
post May 9 2007, 09:02 PM
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Now that things are starting to settle down here in our new home, we broke ground on the GarageMahal.

Any suggestions/tips from those that know much more than I ever will about electricity and other shop essentials? Keep it simple, essential and wonderland arent the same (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Specifically I'm looking for advice on # of circuits and size, as well as floor and wall paint/coating/covering options.

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post May 10 2007, 04:04 PM
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Random thoughts:
My experience from building my shop echoes alot of what has been said. You cannot have too many lights and outlets. Include 220 outlets. I put 1 heavy 220 line into my shop but should have placed several in different locations instead. Now I have a super heavy 220 extension cord I need to drag around for the welders. It works but could have been better. Living in Texas I did AC and heat the garage. To me this is a hobby and it needs to be fun. Working all day at the real job then trying to go home and get stuff done in a shop that is 90+ degrees is not fun. The AC / heat is worth every penny to me. Good insulation, including the garage door is important. Lots of heavy duty shelving is a great thing. Look at oversize garage doors, especially if you are going to put a trailer and or tow vehicles inside. I oversized the doors on my garage in both height and width and it cost less than I thought it would. Epoxy the floor after you build the shop and before you move anything into it. I used the easy Rustoelum kits from Lowes. It has held up well for the last 2 years and I have no complaints but next time I will probably try a more professional grade covering. If you have plumbing to the shop, include a hose bib for things like washing down the race car outside. Outlets in the ceilings are a good thing for drop lights and extension cords. I admit I was a pimp and included a TV hook up. I put the outlet and a 110 outlet in the ceiling in one corner to hook the TV and stearo up to. Back to the keep if fun thing.... Stainless steel workbenches are worth every penny to me, it is great to be able to do a messy job, then just wipe it down with a rag when done. Layout areas for clean and dirty work. Grinders, drill press, parts washer, that kind of stuff in one area with a bench, and then a clean working bench in another area. Personally, I got talked out of putting windows in the shop but now I wish I had. I guess it does come down to the security and who can see what inside your shop. But my thought now is if a thief really wants into your shop bad enough, it will happen if you have windows or not. I just try to be smart about not advertising what I have inside.

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CMC#5   its all about the garage   May 9 2007, 09:02 PM
marka   Howdy, How big will the shop be? How many folks ...   May 9 2007, 09:30 PM
CMC#5   Good point...a few details. Its 40x45 with a good ...   May 9 2007, 10:22 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 9 2007, 06:22 ...   May 10 2007, 03:17 PM
z28tt   How large of a power feed will you have? I'd e...   May 9 2007, 10:56 PM
rmackintosh   Well....there you go Al...you ACTUALLY found ONE t...   May 9 2007, 11:31 PM
SSTAT   While I cant comment on all the hieroglyphics abov...   May 10 2007, 12:23 AM
wdtiger   I have nothing to add. I would just like to add my...   May 10 2007, 12:45 AM
mitchntx   How many outlets? Decide on paper and double it. H...   May 10 2007, 01:07 AM
cccbock   Every one of Mitch's and Andris' suggestio...   May 10 2007, 01:40 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (mitchntx @ May 9 2007, 09...   May 10 2007, 03:36 PM
mitchntx   Bathroom over a beer fridge? I need to see your m...   May 10 2007, 01:47 AM
cccbock   QUOTE (mitchntx @ May 9 2007, 08:47 PM) B...   May 10 2007, 11:08 AM
Eugenio_SS   as mentionned, make sure you have lots of lighting...   May 10 2007, 12:27 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ May 10 2007, 07:27 AM...   May 10 2007, 02:27 PM
mitchntx   RE: its all about the garage   May 10 2007, 12:51 PM
BigEnos   If you're worried about security (and you shou...   May 10 2007, 03:51 PM
Powerslide91   Random thoughts: My experience from building my sh...   May 10 2007, 04:04 PM
CMC#5   Wow, a ton of excellent advice! I figured ther...   May 10 2007, 04:54 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 10 2007, 11:54 AM) 3) ...   May 10 2007, 05:27 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 10 2007, 12:54...   May 10 2007, 05:52 PM
pknowles   QUOTE (marka @ May 10 2007, 01:52 PM) Fol...   May 10 2007, 11:20 PM
Powerslide91   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 10 2007, 11:54 AM) 1) ...   May 10 2007, 09:38 PM
CrashTestDummy   QUOTE (Powerslide91 @ May 10 2007, 04:38 ...   May 11 2007, 03:46 PM
AllZWay   You should visit Mitch's Warren Motorsports Co...   May 10 2007, 06:38 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (AllZWay @ May 10 2007, 01:38 PM) I...   May 10 2007, 07:22 PM
roadracetransam   Put skylights! They sell nice circular ones a...   May 10 2007, 08:37 PM
mitchntx   Remember guys ... this is Texas. Front and rear do...   May 10 2007, 09:47 PM
firehawkclone   I would also do the awning/overhang outside for th...   May 10 2007, 10:40 PM
mitchntx   I used black iron natural gas line.   May 10 2007, 11:22 PM
AndyB   I'm a license electrician in California so hop...   May 11 2007, 01:22 AM
slowTA   So who has info about a 220V GFCI? Out of necessi...   May 11 2007, 01:37 AM
AndyB   QUOTE (slowTA @ May 10 2007, 08:37 PM) So...   May 11 2007, 02:58 AM
z28tt   The price of copper has gone through the roof, whe...   May 11 2007, 01:41 PM
DavidDymaxion   Some more ideas: Do a 240V central vac rather tha...   May 11 2007, 03:39 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (z28tt @ May 11 2007, 08:41 AM) A 2...   May 20 2007, 08:49 PM
Blainefab   Al - Some random thoughts: Bench space - I'v...   May 11 2007, 10:11 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (Blainefab @ May 11 2007, 05:11 PM)...   May 11 2007, 10:39 PM
firehawkclone   This was posted awhile back on here http://www.ult...   May 12 2007, 04:02 PM
v7guy   I've also found this site useful http://www.ga...   May 15 2007, 05:43 PM
bsim   <<--- Jealous.   May 16 2007, 01:38 AM
CMC#5   Just move Brad! Man you guys have my head ...   May 16 2007, 05:37 PM
pkincy   Big Al, Real Estate and acreage is a bit more man...   May 26 2007, 09:00 PM
CMC#5   Perry! Good to hear from you! You guys are...   May 29 2007, 07:01 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 29 2007, 03:01...   May 29 2007, 08:25 PM
Glenn98ZM6   why wood?   May 29 2007, 08:14 PM
CMC#5   Glenn...I struck a deal with the guy that built ou...   May 29 2007, 09:59 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 29 2007, 04:59 PM) I p...   May 30 2007, 12:25 AM
slowTA   Wow... rough crowd! To follow suit I'll a...   May 29 2007, 10:07 PM
CMC#5   Well, the front of the house has several sort of s...   May 30 2007, 12:25 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ May 30 2007, 07:25 AM) Wel...   May 30 2007, 01:27 PM

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