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tjZ28
post Jun 23 2007, 03:02 AM
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So that brings me back to my actual question: can a LT1 Fbody be Nationally Competitive in ESP?

Let’s face it even with every ESP legal motor mod a LT1 is only going to do maybe 275RWHP. LS1 cars are doing 290-320 RWHP STOCK and with the full array of ESP legal motor mods can put down probably 350RWHP. I’ve heard of a few ESP cars that claim 400RWHP ESP legal, but frankly I don’t buy that (I’ve been around the LS1 community a long time and outside of this particular car/driver’s claim I’ve never seen a bolt-on LS1 make those kind of numbers).

On top of that a LT1 car is probably an extra 100lbs nose-heavy.

So, what do you all think: Can a LT1 still be Nationally Competitive in ESP, obviously excluding the driver issue? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

-TJ

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tjZ28
post Jul 10 2007, 10:17 PM
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So this would be fully legal, correct: http://www.sdparts.com/product/12534776/19...vroletYLT4.aspx

Also, would a LS1 (and LS1-era T56) swap be legal in a '97?

-TJ
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post Jul 10 2007, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 10 2007, 05:17 PM) *
Well, here's a problem that I see...

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Notes: Does not include Inlet Manifold, Exhaust Manifold, Starter,
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GM no longer has the intake in production. Good luck finding one.

QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 10 2007, 05:17 PM) *
Also, would a LS1 (and LS1-era T56) swap be legal in a '97?
I believe so but why would you want an LS1 vintage trans?
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post Jul 11 2007, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 10 2007, 06:59 PM) *
GM no longer has the intake in production. Good luck finding one.


I already have the manifold lined up, besides aren't intake manifolds unrestricted?

QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 10 2007, 06:59 PM) *
so but why would you want an LS1 vintage trans?


Sorry if my wording was confusing. I meant to swap in a LS1 motor + the appropriate trans for the LS1 (since as far as I've seen there is no legal way to run '93 gearing behind a LS1 due to the different input shafts).

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post Jul 11 2007, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 10 2007, 07:52 PM) *
I already have the manifold lined up, besides aren't intake manifolds unrestricted?

Yes, but I'm not sure how that would play into an engine swap. I *think* since the rulebook reads that any swap must be done as a unit, you would be required to use the LT4 manifold. Besides, is there an aftermarket intake that will fit the LT4? The new Edelbrock might. I don't know.

I don't know if a modified LT1 intake would work since there are some restrictions on porting as well.
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post Jul 11 2007, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 10 2007, 08:05 PM) *
QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 10 2007, 07:52 PM) *
I already have the manifold lined up, besides aren't intake manifolds unrestricted?

Yes, but I'm not sure how that would play into an engine swap. I *think* since the rulebook reads that any swap must be done as a unit, you would be required to use the LT4 manifold. Besides, is there an aftermarket intake that will fit the LT4? The new Edelbrock might. I don't know.

I don't know if a modified LT1 intake would work since there are some restrictions on porting as well.


What he said. You can do whatever you want to the intake. Port it, use an aftermarket LT4 intake, or even a carb'ed LT4 intake if you really want to.

Edelbrock does make an LT4 Airgap; some guys on LS1Tech actually have one.
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tjZ28   Can a LT1 car be Nationally competitive?   Jun 23 2007, 03:02 AM
TOO Z MAXX   Well I would say yes, but I am biased because I wo...   Jun 23 2007, 03:56 AM
slowTA   With all the money you're making you might wan...   Jun 23 2007, 04:26 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (slowTA @ Jun 23 2007, 12:26 AM) Wi...   Jun 23 2007, 04:42 AM
tjZ28   QUOTE (TOO Z MAXX @ Jun 22 2007, 10:56 PM...   Jun 23 2007, 04:45 AM
z28jeff   Is the car already too modded for F-Stock? If not,...   Jun 24 2007, 08:35 PM
pknowles   Yes LT1's are very competitive. The LS1 cars ...   Jun 24 2007, 10:34 PM
BigEnos   Yes. The trans makes a big difference and I was...   Jun 25 2007, 12:49 AM
tjZ28   QUOTE (z28jeff @ Jun 24 2007, 03:35 PM) I...   Jun 26 2007, 04:52 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jun 25 2007, 11:52 PM) Oh,...   Jun 26 2007, 01:28 PM
SStrokerAce   QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jun 26 2007, 12:52 AM) I...   Jun 26 2007, 08:51 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (SStrokerAce @ Jun 26 2007, 02:51 P...   Jun 26 2007, 09:03 PM
wdtiger   QUOTE (SStrokerAce @ Jun 26 2007, 12:51 P...   Jun 28 2007, 06:27 AM
patred   QUOTE (wdtiger @ Jun 28 2007, 02:27 AM) T...   Jun 28 2007, 12:05 PM
pknowles   QUOTE (wdtiger @ Jun 28 2007, 02:27 AM) Q...   Jun 28 2007, 01:23 PM
BigEnos   QUOTE (pknowles @ Jun 28 2007, 07:23 AM) ...   Jun 28 2007, 01:43 PM
Racer X   The others have pretty much taken care of you but ...   Jun 26 2007, 09:36 PM
ESPCamaro   without question. Sell both cars, track down Sam,...   Jun 27 2007, 08:39 PM
patred   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Jun 27 2007, 04:39 PM)...   Jun 28 2007, 11:59 AM
sgarnett   Heck, Pat, I wish I had your old car for anywhere ...   Jun 28 2007, 12:10 PM
gunslinger   QUOTE (SStrokerAce @ Jun 26 2007, 01:51 P...   Jun 28 2007, 08:46 PM
pknowles   QUOTE (gunslinger @ Jun 28 2007, 04:46 PM...   Jun 29 2007, 01:16 PM
wdtiger   Oh, i'm well aware that auto-x is not all abou...   Jun 28 2007, 11:52 PM
tjZ28   Thanks for the advice! I'm leaning more an...   Jul 5 2007, 10:28 PM
Racer X   Most (but not all) 4th gen ESP cars run a T2R (the...   Jul 5 2007, 11:33 PM
tjZ28   QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 5 2007, 06:33 PM) Mo...   Jul 6 2007, 12:53 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 5 2007, 07:53 PM) QUOT...   Jul 6 2007, 01:06 AM
BigEnos   QUOTE (Mojave @ Jul 5 2007, 07:06 PM) Als...   Jul 6 2007, 01:02 PM
tjZ28   So this would be fully legal, correct: http://www....   Jul 10 2007, 10:17 PM
Racer X   QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 10 2007, 05:17 PM) So ...   Jul 10 2007, 11:59 PM
tjZ28   QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 10 2007, 06:59 PM) G...   Jul 11 2007, 12:52 AM
Racer X   QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 10 2007, 07:52 PM) I a...   Jul 11 2007, 01:05 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 10 2007, 08:05 PM) Q...   Jul 11 2007, 11:59 AM
BigEnos   You can put on any intake manifold you want.   Jul 11 2007, 11:27 AM
ESPCamaro   LS1 swap into a 97 would be a complete waste of ti...   Jul 18 2007, 09:28 PM
SLICK1851   What is the issue with the car? Ive been looking f...   Jul 31 2007, 08:52 PM

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