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tjZ28
post Jul 10 2007, 10:29 PM
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I'm under the impression you can legally swap a LS1 and the accompanying T56 into an older ('93-'97) 4th Gen Fbody for ESP. So, assuming that is correct what do you think would be the better combo?

* LT4 built to the limits of ESP rules + the '93 Trans gearing

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* LS1 built to the limits of ESP rules + '98+ Trans gearing?

Let's assume this is in a '97 Hardtop Z28 built to the full limit of ESP rules also. The car generally would run on a large, fast, smooth, ultra-grippy concrete lot. BUT it would hopefully see Nationals in the next 2-3 years so it'd need to work on smaller, slippery surfaces too.

Running the numbers on 2nd gear only (since that’s where the car will spend at least 90% of it’s AutoX time) the ’93 Trans gearing would give about a 14% increase in RPM vs. the ‘94+. For example, if the ‘94+ gearing would have you at 3,000 RPM the ’93 would have you at 3,420 RPM.

I think it’s safe to say that the LT4 can match the LS1 on torque/hp until maybe 4500 or 5000 RPM. Only losing out a bit right up to ~6200-6300. But can a LS1 make as much torque/hp at 3,000 RPM as a LT4 could at 3,420 RPM?

Thoughts?

-TJ

PS- Yes, my head hurts too.

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post Jul 12 2007, 05:08 PM
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I'd go LT4 combo only based upon my experiences with the LS1s and my LT1 with 93 trans. Great throttle response out of the slow stuff and gearing to help you a little, plus all of the breathing and HP you need up top. It's the best of both worlds.
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tjZ28   Better Combo in a '97: LT4 & '93 Trans vs. LS1 & '   Jul 10 2007, 10:29 PM
Mojave   The LS1 will be lighter. Less weight on the front...   Jul 10 2007, 10:40 PM
tjZ28   QUOTE (Mojave @ Jul 10 2007, 05:40 PM) Th...   Jul 10 2007, 10:45 PM
Racer X   QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 10 2007, 05:45 PM) Als...   Jul 11 2007, 12:01 AM
00 SS   I would go with the LS1 combo personally. With th...   Jul 12 2007, 05:01 PM
BigEnos   I'd go LT4 combo only based upon my experience...   Jul 12 2007, 05:08 PM
tjZ28   QUOTE (00 SS @ Jul 12 2007, 12:01 PM) I w...   Jul 13 2007, 09:47 PM
LT4Firehawk   LT4 is 4 bolt, and GM had the oil leak issue prett...   Jul 13 2007, 10:13 PM
tjZ28   QUOTE (tjZ28 @ Jul 13 2007, 04:47 PM) wea...   Jul 13 2007, 10:30 PM
LT4Firehawk   No, the LS1 wasn't tuned, and while I'm su...   Jul 14 2007, 04:50 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (LT4Firehawk @ Jul 13 2007, 11:50 P...   Jul 14 2007, 04:54 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (LT4Firehawk @ Jul 14 2007, 12:50 A...   Jul 14 2007, 01:53 PM
mitchntx   I have a fresh M29 I would sell.   Jul 15 2007, 01:09 AM
TOO Z MAXX   So all other things being equal, its probaly safe ...   Jul 15 2007, 04:52 AM
sgarnett   Gearing is always going to work both ways, dependi...   Jul 15 2007, 01:03 PM
BigEnos   I don't have a dyno graph as the car is now. I...   Jul 16 2007, 03:07 AM
pknowles   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 15 2007, 11:07 PM) I...   Jul 16 2007, 12:55 PM
BigEnos   I should probably replace the original valve sprin...   Jul 16 2007, 01:41 PM
pknowles   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 16 2007, 09:41 AM) I...   Jul 16 2007, 05:10 PM
Racer X   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Jul 16 2007, 08:41 AM) I...   Jul 16 2007, 08:02 PM

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