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GlennCMC70
post Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM
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those of you w/ subscriptions gotten it yet?
anyone seen it on the stands yet? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jul 13 2007, 03:16 PM
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in most regions its a random check. some regions are set-up to be able to dyno after a race w/ the top 4 or so. this normally requires a dyno on site. here, we seal hoods and computers and have them report to a dyno before the next race w/ a CMC official there to unseal the car.
i've been told the problem was two fold w/ regards to "him".
1) he was dyno'ing at a very high altitude in Nevada and racing at near sea level. this rule loophole was closed this year. even so, it has always been a requirement that your car be legal as it rolls off the track, not the dyno you cert the car on at the begining of the year.
2) he was getting some "help" from the shop w/ the dyno.
there is no finacial gain in CMC from cheeting. so your only fooling yourself by doing it. CMC is a drivers class and if you have to cheet to win, your not a good driver.

as for him being 20 hp down. well over on CMC forums Tony commented about how they had sealed and marked various things on the motor at the begining of the 2007 season due to him not having a current dyno sheet. after he refused several times to report to the dyno he was ejected from CMC till like 2009. the car was raced by his father recently. all the seals and markings were still in place and the car was dyno'ed as raced since the start of the 2007 season and made somewhere between 245-260hp. he was fine w/ that power as he was running CMC-2 w/ it that particular weekend. but thats enough proof for me that he was well over the power limit this year and most likely last year too, including Nationals.
you guys can form your own opinions, i have mine. i was suspicious of it at Nationals but had no way of proving it. i wasnt about to say a word since in 2005 i had caused alot of issues in the Texas region w/ those type of accusations. i left it alone. i also thought it would look like sour grapes w/ my 3rd place finish and i was happy enough to be on the podium. this is just another reason the 2006 Nationals will always be somewhat in question. that and the start of the Championship race was really messed up.

on a side note, my new motor is now restriced down to twin 31mm holes at the T/B. it made 216hp/301tq. proof enough that CMC is not all about power. in fact, w/ those numbers, my minimum is now 3210. so i'm way down on HP and a little up on weight (i normally come off at 3230-3240 though).
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post Jul 13 2007, 03:35 PM
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Did they not dyno all the cars at mid-ohio nats last year?


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Glenn98ZM6   Sept 07 GM High Tech Performance?   Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM
slowTA   I met one of their authors at an autocross and he ...   Jul 12 2007, 10:47 PM
Glenn98ZM6   look for a feature on me in it. thats why i want i...   Jul 12 2007, 11:20 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:20 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 12:32 AM
supermac   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 05:20 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 12:43 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 06:20 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 01:22 AM
Glenn98ZM6   Trackbird - the CMC car. don't hate the player...   Jul 13 2007, 02:06 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:06 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 02:08 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 09:06 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 04:18 AM
Glenn98ZM6   i had my B game last year. the A game will be ther...   Jul 13 2007, 02:11 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:11 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 02:24 AM
Glenn98ZM6   one thing of note, the guy who won CMC in 06 has b...   Jul 13 2007, 02:37 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 02:42 AM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Jul 12 2007, 10...   Jul 13 2007, 02:52 PM
Glenn98ZM6   in most regions its a random check. some regions a...   Jul 13 2007, 03:16 PM
Shortcutsleeping   Did they not dyno all the cars at mid-ohio nats la...   Jul 13 2007, 03:35 PM
Glenn98ZM6   they did not. and his car never finished a single ...   Jul 13 2007, 03:44 PM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:44 AM...   Jul 13 2007, 10:14 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 13 2007, 05...   Jul 22 2007, 04:24 PM
Racer X   Geez Sam, you could have at least shaved and spiff...   Jul 24 2007, 07:27 PM
gunslinger   QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 24 2007, 12:27 PM) G...   Jul 26 2007, 06:39 PM
patred   QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 24 2007, 03:27 PM) G...   Jul 27 2007, 02:44 PM
Sam Strano   Rick Jensen told me around Sept 1st..... Because ...   Jul 13 2007, 04:15 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 13 2007, 12:15 PM...   Jul 13 2007, 04:25 PM
Glenn98ZM6   we are twinkies! yea!   Jul 13 2007, 05:03 PM
CMC #37   I subscribed this year...took the last issue with ...   Jul 13 2007, 06:25 PM
Glenn98ZM6   don't let this issue stop you. its very isolat...   Jul 13 2007, 10:32 PM
jeffburch   Didn't he dyno right there in front of us? I s...   Jul 15 2007, 03:21 PM
Glenn98ZM6   back on topic. any sightings yet?   Jul 22 2007, 02:37 PM
Glenn98ZM6   so i see its out! can i get a sneak peak!?...   Jul 24 2007, 07:50 PM
Racer X   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 24 2007, 02:50 PM...   Jul 24 2007, 08:09 PM
Sam Strano   I didn't really think they'd want me in th...   Jul 24 2007, 09:16 PM
Racer X   QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 24 2007, 04:16 PM...   Jul 24 2007, 09:20 PM
Sam Strano   Yeah..... thanks.   Jul 24 2007, 10:33 PM
subtleZ28   Congrats guys! I look forward to this issue......   Jul 25 2007, 04:06 AM
bowtieboy   I was just going to type a "congratz" to...   Jul 26 2007, 06:59 PM
Glenn98ZM6   Borders and Barnes & Noble's both carry it...   Jul 26 2007, 08:26 PM
00 SS   I just got mine in the mail yesterday. Great arti...   Jul 27 2007, 01:54 PM
slowTA   Well I'm ticked off with the issue. The writi...   Jul 27 2007, 11:25 PM
cdb95z28   That`s great Glenn & Sam! Sam, is tha...   Jul 31 2007, 04:09 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (cdb95z28 @ Jul 31 2007, 12:09 AM) ...   Aug 1 2007, 09:54 PM
dailydriver   Congrats to Sam and Glenn/Mitch on this great expo...   Aug 1 2007, 08:34 PM
Glenn98ZM6   QUOTE (dailydriver @ Aug 1 2007, 03:34 PM...   Aug 1 2007, 10:06 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Aug 1 2007, 05:06 PM)...   Aug 1 2007, 11:26 PM
Glenn98ZM6   i'll have some hard numbers for you guys at th...   Aug 1 2007, 11:54 PM
Teutonic Speedracer   Good job guys! I let my subscription run ou...   Aug 8 2007, 03:18 AM
CMC #37   I am a subscriber, finally got my copy today! ...   Aug 8 2007, 04:19 AM
rmackintosh   Just got my copy too! Wish I could get ...   Aug 8 2007, 06:44 AM
Racer X   Anybody see the November issue yet? Sam, lately y...   Aug 29 2007, 06:45 PM

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