[BigEnos]

Don't worry, I didn't get rid of the Camaro.

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Premium, white with black (sorry, it's DARK CHARCOAL!) leather, 18" wheels, 3.55 posi, sirius, both interior upgrad pkgs, and GT Appearance pkg. Love it so far, really nice street car and it handles decently given it's bone stockness.

More pics here.

[BigEnos]

WRT the new Camaro, you guys can work through the initial inventory, get the oddball first year (see '04 GTO, '93 Z28, '05 vette, etc) and pay all the dealer markup. I'll get a 2010 for supplier price the way I want it. I struggled to find a car I wanted at the Chevy dealer. I have a good relationship with a local Chevy/Cadillac store, but in the end I couldn't come up with anything I could afford and wanted. I just couldn't swing a CTS-V or a 'vette right now.

Also, that Cabrio was on the verge of some major work being needed. It was due for a timing belt, a CV boot (inner) was beginning to split, it had an airbag light on (again). VWs aren't what they used to be. The car had to go.

Have about 300 miles on the disgust-stang and it's a fantastic car. I swung it through some twisties last night and it's a little wallowy in the back, but overall it's great for being completely stock.

[rmackintosh]

WRT the new Camaro, you guys can work through the initial inventory, get the oddball first year (see '04 GTO, '93 Z28, '05 vette, etc) and pay all the dealer markup. I'll get a 2010 for supplier price the way I want it. I struggled to find a car I wanted at the Chevy dealer. I have a good relationship with a local Chevy/Cadillac store, but in the end I couldn't come up with anything I could afford and wanted. I just couldn't swing a CTS-V or a 'vette right now.

Also, that Cabrio was on the verge of some major work being needed. It was due for a timing belt, a CV boot (inner) was beginning to split, it had an airbag light on (again). VWs aren't what they used to be. The car had to go.

Have about 300 miles on the disgust-stang and it's a fantastic car. I swung it through some twisties last night and it's a little wallowy in the back, but overall it's great for being completely stock.

I'm with ya on the complete lack of purchasable cars on the the typical GM/Chevy lot.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

I too will wait out the Camaro bugs until I can buy a "second" generation version with more improvements/etc.

[atakacs]

... I struggled to find a car I wanted at the Chevy dealer. ...

Have about 300 miles on the disgust-stang and it's a fantastic car. I swung it through some twisties last night and it's a little wallowy in the back, but overall it's great for being completely stock.

I'm with ya on the complete lack of purchasable cars on the the typical GM/Chevy lot.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

I too will wait out the Camaro bugs until I can buy a "second" generation version with more improvements/etc.

I hear you on the Mustang being a nice car. I drove an 07 V6 and my only complaints are that it had the throttle by wire and in turn, lag, and that it didn't come with anti-lock brakes - WTF? Knowing that a lot of teens buy Mustangs, I'd think ABS would be standard. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif)

As for purchasable, affordable GM cars, I kinda like the Saturn Sky Redline and Pontiac Solstice GXP... if you can afford to give up 2 seats. Supposedly, MSRP on the GXP is $26,515 - and about $2k more on the Redline. Even with a decent markup, it will cost less than my WS6 did in 2002.

[BigEnos]

... I struggled to find a car I wanted at the Chevy dealer. ...

Have about 300 miles on the disgust-stang and it's a fantastic car. I swung it through some twisties last night and it's a little wallowy in the back, but overall it's great for being completely stock.

I'm with ya on the complete lack of purchasable cars on the the typical GM/Chevy lot.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

I too will wait out the Camaro bugs until I can buy a "second" generation version with more improvements/etc.

I hear you on the Mustang being a nice car. I drove an 07 V6 and my only complaints are that it had the throttle by wire and in turn, lag, and that it didn't come with anti-lock brakes - WTF? Knowing that a lot of teens buy Mustangs, I'd think ABS would be standard. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rant.gif)

As for purchasable, affordable GM cars, I kinda like the Saturn Sky Redline and Pontiac Solstice GXP... if you can afford to give up 2 seats. Supposedly, MSRP on the GXP is $26,515 - and about $2k more on the Redline. Even with a decent markup, it will cost less than my WS6 did in 2002.

I considered the Sky/Sky Redline, but I like the concept of a ponycar a lot. I paid $26,122 for the 'stang (MSRP was $29,5xx).

I figured that ABS would be std. on the V6s. That sucks, it should be. I autocrossed someone else's 'stang and the ABS was fantastic.

[rmackintosh]

I considered the Sky/Sky Redline, but I like the concept of a ponycar a lot. I paid $26,122 for the 'stang (MSRP was $29,5xx).

That is CHEAP for a GT model Mustang......can only H.O.P.E. and pray the Camaro will be in that ballpark.

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