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GlennCMC70 View Member Profile	Jul 13 2007, 03:44 PM Post #2
Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8	they did not. and his car never finished a single race untill the Championship race. so it was never Teched post race. he also had a "lab coat mechanic" there doing all his work. not sure what to make of all that.

Shortcutsleeping View Member Profile	Jul 13 2007, 10:14 PM Post #3
Experienced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,038 Joined: 29-December 03 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 62	QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:44 AM) they did not. and his car never finished a single race untill the Championship race. so it was never Teched post race. he also had a "lab coat mechanic" there doing all his work. not sure what to make of all that. I don't want to be the second-guesser here, but why the heck didn't someone protest? Why didn't they have a transportable dyno there on site and the cars get dyno'd after Q and after the race? Seems to me (outsider looking in and looking for education) that they should have had one there to really make sure the cars are legal. I'd have been chapped. The first time the AS cars (regional only at that point) attended the IT/AS Festival in Kansas a car showed up from California that was stupidfast. Stupid illegal too...and promptly thrown out about 5 minutes after the hoods came up in impound (paper was ready to be filed and money was in hand, but the Tech team knew blatant illegality when they saw it). IIRC with only popping the hood there were more than a half-dozen violations visible! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Anyway, I'd be chapped if I built a nice legal car and went all the way there and felt that a cheater car won. With two 92's I've really thought about making one CMC so this is an interesting topic to me. I may be at mid-ohio to drive a Legacy car and I'll be sure and poke around and see what is what. Costas cars and such...

rmackintosh View Member Profile	Jul 22 2007, 04:24 PM Post #4
Senior Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 5,226 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Danville, CA, USA Member No.: 27	QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 13 2007, 05:14 PM) QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:44 AM) they did not. and his car never finished a single race untill the Championship race. so it was never Teched post race. he also had a "lab coat mechanic" there doing all his work. not sure what to make of all that. I don't want to be the second-guesser here, but why the heck didn't someone protest? Why didn't they have a transportable dyno there on site and the cars get dyno'd after Q and after the race? Seems to me (outsider looking in and looking for education) that they should have had one there to really make sure the cars are legal. I'd have been chapped. The first time the AS cars (regional only at that point) attended the IT/AS Festival in Kansas a car showed up from California that was stupidfast. Stupid illegal too...and promptly thrown out about 5 minutes after the hoods came up in impound (paper was ready to be filed and money was in hand, but the Tech team knew blatant illegality when they saw it). IIRC with only popping the hood there were more than a half-dozen violations visible! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Anyway, I'd be chapped if I built a nice legal car and went all the way there and felt that a cheater car won. With two 92's I've really thought about making one CMC so this is an interesting topic to me. I may be at mid-ohio to drive a Legacy car and I'll be sure and poke around and see what is what. Costas cars and such... ....cheaters race....and racers cheat......its a fact of life.....been driving now 13 years....and working on race cars another 20 before that......this has ALWAYS been an issue....and always will..... Personally, I don't, because I race for fun, and it is not worth all the headaches associated with hiding it. I will say THE WORST cheating I have seen, and this is pretty much universal....is in the "spec" and/or "drivers" classes (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) The infractions may be smaller because of the restrictions, but guys will look harder and do more little things to get that "driver's" edge....(IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif) For example Spec Miata has been a mess....... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Racer X View Member Profile	Jul 24 2007, 07:27 PM Post #5
Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 404 Joined: 12-January 04 From: From PA, now AR Member No.: 120	Geez Sam, you could have at least shaved and spiffed up for your magazine centerfold shot. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/125164/CopyofSammy1.jpg)

patred View Member Profile	Jul 27 2007, 02:44 PM Post #6
Zero brand loyalty Group: Advanced Members Posts: 645 Joined: 22-January 04 From: Merryland Member No.: 145	QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 24 2007, 03:27 PM) Geez Sam, you could have at least shaved and spiffed up for your magazine centerfold shot. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/125164/CopyofSammy1.jpg) That guy looks familiar .... oh yeah ... his picture is on the back of one of my T-shirts. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.sr20forum.com/gallery/data/500/jasonsam.jpg) Pat

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Glenn98ZM6 Sept 07 GM High Tech Performance? Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM

slowTA I met one of their authors at an autocross and he ... Jul 12 2007, 10:47 PM

Glenn98ZM6 look for a feature on me in it. thats why i want i... Jul 12 2007, 11:20 PM

trackbird QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:20 PM... Jul 13 2007, 12:32 AM

supermac QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 05:20 PM... Jul 13 2007, 12:43 AM

mitchntx QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 06:20 PM... Jul 13 2007, 01:22 AM

Glenn98ZM6 Trackbird - the CMC car. don't hate the player... Jul 13 2007, 02:06 AM

trackbird QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:06 PM... Jul 13 2007, 02:08 AM

mitchntx QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 09:06 PM... Jul 13 2007, 04:18 AM

Glenn98ZM6 i had my B game last year. the A game will be ther... Jul 13 2007, 02:11 AM

trackbird QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:11 PM... Jul 13 2007, 02:24 AM

Glenn98ZM6 one thing of note, the guy who won CMC in 06 has b... Jul 13 2007, 02:37 AM

trackbird QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM... Jul 13 2007, 02:42 AM

marka Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Jul 12 2007, 10... Jul 13 2007, 02:52 PM

Glenn98ZM6 in most regions its a random check. some regions a... Jul 13 2007, 03:16 PM

Shortcutsleeping Did they not dyno all the cars at mid-ohio nats la... Jul 13 2007, 03:35 PM

Glenn98ZM6 they did not. and his car never finished a single ... Jul 13 2007, 03:44 PM

Shortcutsleeping QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:44 AM... Jul 13 2007, 10:14 PM

rmackintosh QUOTE (Shortcutsleeping @ Jul 13 2007, 05... Jul 22 2007, 04:24 PM

Racer X Geez Sam, you could have at least shaved and spiff... Jul 24 2007, 07:27 PM

gunslinger QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 24 2007, 12:27 PM) G... Jul 26 2007, 06:39 PM

patred QUOTE (Racer X @ Jul 24 2007, 03:27 PM) G... Jul 27 2007, 02:44 PM

Sam Strano Rick Jensen told me around Sept 1st..... Because ... Jul 13 2007, 04:15 PM

trackbird QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 13 2007, 12:15 PM... Jul 13 2007, 04:25 PM

Glenn98ZM6 we are twinkies! yea! Jul 13 2007, 05:03 PM

CMC #37 I subscribed this year...took the last issue with ... Jul 13 2007, 06:25 PM

Glenn98ZM6 don't let this issue stop you. its very isolat... Jul 13 2007, 10:32 PM

jeffburch Didn't he dyno right there in front of us? I s... Jul 15 2007, 03:21 PM

Glenn98ZM6 back on topic. any sightings yet? Jul 22 2007, 02:37 PM

Glenn98ZM6 so i see its out! can i get a sneak peak!?... Jul 24 2007, 07:50 PM

Racer X QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Jul 24 2007, 02:50 PM... Jul 24 2007, 08:09 PM

Sam Strano I didn't really think they'd want me in th... Jul 24 2007, 09:16 PM

Racer X QUOTE (Sam Strano @ Jul 24 2007, 04:16 PM... Jul 24 2007, 09:20 PM

Sam Strano Yeah..... thanks. Jul 24 2007, 10:33 PM

subtleZ28 Congrats guys! I look forward to this issue...... Jul 25 2007, 04:06 AM

bowtieboy I was just going to type a "congratz" to... Jul 26 2007, 06:59 PM

Glenn98ZM6 Borders and Barnes & Noble's both carry it... Jul 26 2007, 08:26 PM

00 SS I just got mine in the mail yesterday. Great arti... Jul 27 2007, 01:54 PM

slowTA Well I'm ticked off with the issue. The writi... Jul 27 2007, 11:25 PM

cdb95z28 That`s great Glenn & Sam! Sam, is tha... Jul 31 2007, 04:09 AM

trackbird QUOTE (cdb95z28 @ Jul 31 2007, 12:09 AM) ... Aug 1 2007, 09:54 PM

dailydriver Congrats to Sam and Glenn/Mitch on this great expo... Aug 1 2007, 08:34 PM

Glenn98ZM6 QUOTE (dailydriver @ Aug 1 2007, 03:34 PM... Aug 1 2007, 10:06 PM

mitchntx QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Aug 1 2007, 05:06 PM)... Aug 1 2007, 11:26 PM

Glenn98ZM6 i'll have some hard numbers for you guys at th... Aug 1 2007, 11:54 PM

Teutonic Speedracer Good job guys! I let my subscription run ou... Aug 8 2007, 03:18 AM

CMC #37 I am a subscriber, finally got my copy today! ... Aug 8 2007, 04:19 AM

rmackintosh Just got my copy too! Wish I could get ... Aug 8 2007, 06:44 AM

Racer X Anybody see the November issue yet? Sam, lately y... Aug 29 2007, 06:45 PM

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GlennCMC70 View Member Profile	Jul 12 2007, 10:37 PM Post #1
Veteran Member Group: Member Posts: 2,688 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Ft Worth, TX Member No.: 8	those of you w/ subscriptions gotten it yet? anyone seen it on the stands yet? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)