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post Dec 11 2007, 07:20 PM
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Take a look and see what's on the horizon:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plu...idg=1&idi=1

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http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plu...idg=1&idi=4

http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plu...idg=1&idi=5

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Blainefab
post Dec 11 2007, 11:04 PM
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Compared to 4th gen:

shorter overhangs front and rear - good for aero mods and PMI

probably longer wheelbase - good

smaller, lighter windshield - good

smaller, lighter hatch glass, unless the camo is covering an extension to the spoiler - maybe good

very short door window openings - bad for quick exit

roof appears deeper at top of door glass - good for tucking halo up there
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post Dec 12 2007, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (Blainefab @ Dec 11 2007, 06:04 PM) *
Compared to 4th gen:

shorter overhangs front and rear - good for aero mods and PMI

probably longer wheelbase - good

smaller, lighter windshield - good

smaller, lighter hatch glass, unless the camo is covering an extension to the spoiler - maybe good

very short door window openings - bad for quick exit

roof appears deeper at top of door glass - good for tucking halo up there


How much weight do you figure could be pulled out of these things (not that it will help the F/Stockers out there any)??
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post Dec 13 2007, 06:29 AM
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QUOTE (dailydriver @ Dec 12 2007, 11:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Dec 11 2007, 06:04 PM) *
Compared to 4th gen:

shorter overhangs front and rear - good for aero mods and PMI

probably longer wheelbase - good

smaller, lighter windshield - good

smaller, lighter hatch glass, unless the camo is covering an extension to the spoiler - maybe good

very short door window openings - bad for quick exit

roof appears deeper at top of door glass - good for tucking halo up there


How much weight do you figure could be pulled out of these things (not that it will help the F/Stockers out there any)??


My SWAG is the car will be 200-300# heavier than a 4th gen, maybe half of that increase in steel in the chassis for crashworthiness, and the other half in airbags, electronics and creature comforts. Steel stays, geegaws get tossed, race weight ends up 100-150# more than a 4th gen with similar rules. The smaller front/rear glass will mean less weight loss with Lexan. With a 400hp LS3, IRS and enough rubber it should come off the corners well, but give up some in braking and transitions to the lighter cars. Like I said, tho - just my SWAG.

I do expect the stamped steel IRS control arms to spawn a race in the aftermarket to get shiny powder coated tubular arms into the marketplace, but what we really need is a DIY aluminum forge ;-)
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QUOTE (Blainefab @ Dec 13 2007, 01:29 AM) *
QUOTE (dailydriver @ Dec 12 2007, 11:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Blainefab @ Dec 11 2007, 06:04 PM) *
Compared to 4th gen:

shorter overhangs front and rear - good for aero mods and PMI

probably longer wheelbase - good

smaller, lighter windshield - good

smaller, lighter hatch glass, unless the camo is covering an extension to the spoiler - maybe good

very short door window openings - bad for quick exit

roof appears deeper at top of door glass - good for tucking halo up there


How much weight do you figure could be pulled out of these things (not that it will help the F/Stockers out there any)??


My SWAG is the car will be 200-300# heavier than a 4th gen, maybe half of that increase in steel in the chassis for crashworthiness, and the other half in airbags, electronics and creature comforts. Steel stays, geegaws get tossed, race weight ends up 100-150# more than a 4th gen with similar rules. The smaller front/rear glass will mean less weight loss with Lexan. With a 400hp LS3, IRS and enough rubber it should come off the corners well, but give up some in braking and transitions to the lighter cars. Like I said, tho - just my SWAG.

I do expect the stamped steel IRS control arms to spawn a race in the aftermarket to get shiny powder coated tubular arms into the marketplace, but what we really need is a DIY aluminum forge ;-)


COOL! Thanks for the educated speculation!! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)
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conemark   It's getting closer - the fifth gen spotted   Dec 11 2007, 07:20 PM
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