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Mean Green Z28
post Dec 27 2007, 05:08 PM
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So f'n douche bag at work got a '07 Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon, and now thinks he's the holy grail of motoring. He says AWD cars (like his WRX, which ofcourse is what god designed himself and put on the dirt road) isn't supposed to be driven on anything else but rallies (just like Ferrari's as supposed to be on the track and not on the road) and cannot be setup for the track and people need to stay off the gas to drive it around an asphalt track and that RWD is where it's at for anything performance oriented 'cos you can bring the ass end around at will. I'm not disagreeing with the RWD part (although I've noticed our f-body's like to understeer) but of course I've never driven an AWD car around a track but from what I've read, heard and seen, AWD's push a lot and have quite a bit of understeer and need more of a nose down attitude to get the handling right and then can be pretty competitive on the track. What say you? If I'm wrong, I'm gonna shut up and cry in a corner (ofcourse, having learned something ... but I ain't telling him, I'll just say I got sand in my eyes .. lol)

so ... does a properly setup AWD like a WRX match, supersede a prepped RWD or will they forever be lagging behind 'cos they belong on the dirt road?

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post Dec 28 2007, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE (Mean Green Z28 @ Dec 27 2007, 12:08 PM) *
So f'n douche bag at work got a '07 Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon, and now thinks he's the holy grail of motoring. He says AWD cars (like his WRX, which ofcourse is what god designed himself and put on the dirt road) isn't supposed to be driven on anything else but rallies (just like Ferrari's as supposed to be on the track and not on the road) and cannot be setup for the track and people need to stay off the gas to drive it around an asphalt track and that RWD is where it's at for anything performance oriented 'cos you can bring the ass end around at will. I'm not disagreeing with the RWD part (although I've noticed our f-body's like to understeer) but of course I've never driven an AWD car around a track but from what I've read, heard and seen, AWD's push a lot and have quite a bit of understeer and need more of a nose down attitude to get the handling right and then can be pretty competitive on the track. What say you? If I'm wrong, I'm gonna shut up and cry in a corner (ofcourse, having learned something ... but I ain't telling him, I'll just say I got sand in my eyes .. lol)

so ... does a properly setup AWD like a WRX match, supersede a prepped RWD or will they forever be lagging behind 'cos they belong on the dirt road?


AWD cars are easier to drive at the limit than RWD cars, and with the level of grip decreasing (dirt ... rain ... snow) they will have more of an advantage. But either platform can be tweaked to go fast on paved surfaces.

For bench racing and talking smack around the shop, it just depends on the level of driver and what's been done to the car. For example, a number of us here could drive an F-Body on dirt and make your co-worker look silly in his AWD car. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Dec 28 2007, 04:14 AM
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QUOTE (patred @ Dec 27 2007, 08:44 PM) *
a number of us here could drive an F-Body on dirt and make your co-worker look silly in his AWD car.


Yup - these cars make surprisingly good rally cars. Never did "formal" rally events, but I played plenty of "follow the leader" through farms outside of Austin back in the 90s.
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Mean Green Z28   AWD cars on the autoX/RR track?   Dec 27 2007, 05:08 PM
CamaroFS34   According to the RWD guys in BSP, they can't t...   Dec 27 2007, 05:35 PM
vanwyk4257   I think the WRX/STI's tend to understeer quite...   Dec 27 2007, 05:49 PM
00 Trans Ram   As with most things, it all depends on the car, it...   Dec 27 2007, 06:03 PM
dailydriver   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Dec 27 2007, 01:03 ...   Dec 27 2007, 07:16 PM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (dailydriver @ Dec 27 2007, 01:16 P...   Dec 27 2007, 08:01 PM
trackbird   I own a Mazdaspeed 6 which is AWD. It's a bit ...   Dec 27 2007, 06:19 PM
1meanZ   from what I've seen in auto-x and road racing,...   Dec 27 2007, 06:43 PM
CrashTestDummy   Douchebag +1 While the AWD cars can be a bit heav...   Dec 27 2007, 06:54 PM
Mean Green Z28   Thanks guys for clearing this up, I knew I had the...   Dec 27 2007, 07:46 PM
patred   QUOTE (Mean Green Z28 @ Dec 27 2007, 12:0...   Dec 28 2007, 02:44 AM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (patred @ Dec 27 2007, 08:44 PM) a ...   Dec 28 2007, 04:14 AM
roy   I own a 16 year old Sierra Cossie AWD with Ferguso...   Dec 28 2007, 05:25 AM
vanwyk4257   QUOTE (roy @ Dec 28 2007, 12:25 AM) I own...   Dec 28 2007, 05:45 AM
dailydriver   QUOTE (roy @ Dec 28 2007, 12:25 AM) I own...   Dec 28 2007, 09:01 PM
CMC #37   I call the AWD cars "cheaters" at the tr...   Dec 28 2007, 06:23 AM
patred   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Dec 28 2007, 01:23 AM) I...   Dec 28 2007, 02:18 PM
CamaroFS34   QUOTE (patred @ Dec 28 2007, 09:18 AM) QU...   Dec 28 2007, 03:35 PM
rpoz-29   Back in the late 80's, early 90's Audi had...   Dec 28 2007, 10:06 AM
KeithO   I was fortunate enough to get to race in a class t...   Dec 28 2007, 02:36 PM
roy   The only mods have been only suspension and engine...   Dec 28 2007, 09:49 PM

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