[Crazy Canuck]

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?time=24

And some of you complain about gas prices... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif) (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/lmao.gif)

Over the last week in Montreal, it's been ~ 5$/gallon.
and btw, Montreal is among the most expensive in Canada... to make it worse.

[bsim]

HEAT is the problem, and until we invent the (impossible) heatless motor, we're only delaying the inevitable. Oil is only "harder to get" for political reasons. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)

Besides, in the future the sun will go red giant and devour the earth. Why leave a planet with combustibles in it? Better explosion? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)

[marka]

Howdy,

HEAT is the problem, and until we invent the (impossible) heatless motor, we're only delaying the inevitable. Oil is only "harder to get" for political reasons. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)

The reasons being political or not doesn't matter... Its still harder to get.

My personal timeframe is the next couple hundred years. There are plenty of resources that will last that long and quite a bit longer without issues. Quoting thermodynamic laws in this with some kinda "well, no matter what you're screwed" attitude is a bit over the top when at least one major source (solar) certainly isn't going away in the next million years or so.

Besides, in the future the sun will go red giant and devour the earth. Why leave a planet with combustibles in it? Better explosion? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)

No. Instead of consuming so much oil with cars or other things that are "easy" to convert to other sources, I'd prefer we left the oil to things that would be really hard to make without it... I.e. lubricants, plastics, or whatever.

You talk like someone that uses dollar bills to wipe their ass, because they're easier to reach than the toilet paper in the closet.

Mark

This post has been edited by marka: Mar 3 2008, 08:28 PM

[nape]

Quoting thermodynamic laws in this with some kinda "well, no matter what you're screwed" attitude is a bit over the top when at least one major source (solar) certainly isn't going away in the next million years or so.

Thermodynamic laws don't lie. Think about how much energy goes into making that solar panel for the amount you get out of it over it's lifespan. It's not a winner.

Photo voltaic systems sound like a money maker to me, I can't wait for them to take off (electrician). The hard fact is that without government subsides (tax credits, etc), it'll take a long time for them to pay back and by the time they pay for themselves you're looking at replacing them due to limited lifespan. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/nutkick.gif)