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robz71lm7
post May 4 2004, 03:23 PM
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After sunday's autocross a novice asked on our region's message board about getting a cheap helmet. He got replies ranging from links where you could get an M2000 helmet for $60 and one even $49!

The site we raced at sunday was a military air strip with tall grass off the sides. The dirt wasn't always flat and smooth. In fact, yesterday and S2000 went off into the grass sideways-he wasn't the only one to go off into the grass. Now is it just me or this the kind of place where a good possibility of rolling over exists?

It just kind of disturbs me that people will recommend and use such cheap helmets. Am I being a little excessive here?

What's everyone's opinion on helmets in autocross?
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post May 5 2004, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (Rob Hood @ May 4 2004, 11:05 PM)
I won't scrimp on safety, period.  I would rather have as much safety equipment as possible.  It's tough sometimes, to decide on what to buy - better performance-related parts, or ensuring you as the driver are wearing quality safety equipment.

We're really mixing two entirely different questions together as if they were the same thing.

1) Should we cut corners on safety equipment? Clearly the answer is no.

2) Does paying more for a helmet (or other safety equipment) make it safer? That's not so clear (assuming everything considered meets the latest Snell standards and is an appropraite design for the application).

It's also important to remember that a lot of things affect safety, and sometimes the best of intentions makes things WORSE. For example:

a) using a harness without a rollcage, or even with a rollcage if the helmet protrudes above the cage,

b ) as already mentioned, using a great helmet that doesn't fit properly

c) using a large heavy helmet without a HANS devive or something similiar,

etc.

I cringe everytime I see a harness that's mounted below the shoulders. It's a spinal fracture begging to happen. No doubt the owner feels much safer, though.
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robz71lm7   Cheap helmets for autocross   May 4 2004, 03:23 PM
00 Trans Ram   MHO is that, if you buy a cheap helmet, you must n...   May 4 2004, 04:17 PM
sgarnett   I don't see a problem with a cheap Snell-teste...   May 4 2004, 04:32 PM
CMC #37   I agree with Sean about the helmets. Snell 2000 is...   May 4 2004, 04:54 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ May 4 2004, 11:54 AM)As far ...   May 4 2004, 05:08 PM
LT4Firehawk   Where a lot of people get confused is on the M vs....   May 4 2004, 05:13 PM
pknowles   QUOTE I don't see a problem with a cheap Snell...   May 4 2004, 05:47 PM
trackbird   Sean makes a good point. If it meets the standards...   May 4 2004, 05:57 PM
LT4Firehawk   QUOTE (pknowles @ May 4 2004, 11:47 AM)For SC...   May 4 2004, 05:57 PM
00 Trans Ram   First of all, ya'll are right - more expensive...   May 4 2004, 06:07 PM
sgarnett   I will add that if it was possible for me to walk ...   May 4 2004, 07:10 PM
prockbp   i don't feel any need to tell someone that the...   May 4 2004, 07:30 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (prockbp @ May 4 2004, 02:30 PM)if you ...   May 4 2004, 09:23 PM
00 Trans Ram   Louisiana has a "Population Control" law...   May 4 2004, 09:44 PM
AllZWay   I bought a cheap... open face G-force for OT, then...   May 4 2004, 09:56 PM
Eugenio_SS   just get a helmet with Snell / DOT approval. I use...   May 5 2004, 03:27 AM
Rob Hood   First helmet I had was black - BIG mistake. A rea...   May 5 2004, 04:05 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ May 4 2004, 10:27 PM)just...   May 5 2004, 12:53 PM
robz71lm7   Yes that's the primary difference between SA a...   May 5 2004, 01:08 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ May 4 2004, 11:05 PM)I won...   May 5 2004, 01:17 PM
sgarnett   I personally would like to see more dual-certified...   May 5 2004, 02:11 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (sgarnett @ May 5 2004, 09:17 AM)I crin...   May 5 2004, 02:33 PM
00 Trans Ram   Well, I must admit that I've got a 5-pt harnes...   May 5 2004, 02:40 PM
trackbird   I'm sure they will hold more than 60 lbs. If t...   May 5 2004, 02:48 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ May 5 2004, 09:33 AM)I see...   May 5 2004, 02:52 PM
LT4Firehawk   QUOTE The SA helmets are tested against a rollbar ...   May 5 2004, 04:15 PM
00 Trans Ram   Come to think of it, you're probably right (ab...   May 5 2004, 05:16 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ May 5 2004, 09:40 AM)We...   May 5 2004, 05:39 PM
Dewey316   QUOTE (sgarnett @ May 5 2004, 11:39 AM)you...   May 5 2004, 05:49 PM
00 Trans Ram   Well, I actually thought of another problem with m...   May 5 2004, 05:52 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (LT4Firehawk @ May 5 2004, 12:15 PM)QUO...   May 5 2004, 06:14 PM
John_D.   You're on a good point there. The harness mou...   May 5 2004, 06:26 PM
trackbird   I think Simpson lists the 10 degree downward angle...   May 5 2004, 06:29 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ May 5 2004, 12:52 PM)Qu...   May 5 2004, 06:49 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ May 5 2004, 01:14 PM)Man I...   May 5 2004, 06:51 PM
Dewey316   QUOTE (sgarnett @ May 5 2004, 12:49 PM)Ignori...   May 5 2004, 06:57 PM
trackbird   Safety Nazi has always been my job. Just ask Mitch   May 5 2004, 07:31 PM
Jeff97FST/A   I've seen installation diagrams before (in add...   May 5 2004, 10:51 PM
00 Trans Ram   Well, Sean, I think I'm safe. But, I am gong ...   May 6 2004, 02:14 PM
jraskell   Here's pics of my helmet after a 40mph highsid...   May 10 2004, 05:18 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (sgarnett @ May 5 2004, 07:53 AM)QUOTE ...   May 13 2004, 02:48 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (jraskell @ May 10 2004, 12:18 PM)Here...   May 13 2004, 02:51 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ May 12 2004, 09:48 PM)QUO...   May 24 2004, 04:06 AM
sgarnett   Well, if there's any way for your helmet to hi...   May 24 2004, 11:55 AM
Bald54   To start out I just run autocross and happen to be...   May 24 2004, 02:08 PM
Nestromo   I'm 20 years old. I saved up for 4 years to p...   May 25 2004, 07:11 PM

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