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post May 30 2008, 05:42 PM
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Very Interesting>>>
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm
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http://runyourcarwithwater.com/

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Here's the problem I see with all of these systems. Energy balance. You can't create energy. So, even if we assume the entire process is 100% efficient, you get no net gains. In reality, it's not anywhere near 100% efficient. Where does the power to create the hydrogen and oxygen come from? The alternator maybe. If so, the engine has to drive it using HP. There are losses in that process. The electricity first makes heat in the water before separating it into hydrogen and oxygen, more loss. The engine combustion efficiency is maybe 30%, more loss. Do they really want us to believe that the energy out of burning the resulting hydrogen and oxygen is greater than the engery it took to create it? If it is, we just solved the worlds energy problems.

I believe this is the reason the manufacturers do not include this type of system on factory vehicles. Like was stated above, if it were this simple, it would have been done already and be in mainstream use.
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27Cam02   Have anyones using "run your car w/water"?   May 30 2008, 05:42 PM
27Cam02   Found at LS1Tech.. http://ls1tech.com/forums/showt...   May 30 2008, 06:08 PM
JaredT   QUOTE (27Cam02 @ May 30 2008, 12:42 PM) V...   May 30 2008, 06:37 PM
00 Trans Ram   I haven't looked for the technical rebuttal, b...   May 30 2008, 07:33 PM
JustinID   He's talking about "steam cleaning" ...   May 30 2008, 09:16 PM
trackbird   I'm not defending this since it smells of ...   May 30 2008, 10:11 PM
rpoz-29   I haven't seen this since the oil embargo of t...   May 31 2008, 12:47 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   sounds scary to me.. HHO gas? This is different fr...   May 31 2008, 08:47 PM
gopanoz   There was a segment on local fox channel about thi...   Jun 2 2008, 04:22 AM
RVachon   I wonder if it also gives detailed description how...   Jun 2 2008, 12:49 PM
gopanoz   that has already been done and is free online htt...   Jun 3 2008, 05:57 AM
firechkn   I have the plans to build your own kit. It doesn...   Jun 3 2008, 03:08 PM
00 Trans Ram   Why go to all that trouble? For a couple hundred d...   Jun 3 2008, 03:28 PM
00 SS   Here's the problem I see with all of these sys...   Jun 3 2008, 07:04 PM
firechkn   The alternator is spinning away anyways making ene...   Jun 3 2008, 07:53 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (firechkn @ Jun 3 2008, 03:53 PM) T...   Jun 3 2008, 07:56 PM
00 SS   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 3 2008, 01:56 PM) ...   Jun 3 2008, 09:04 PM
firechkn   I guess the only way to tell for sure is to try it...   Jun 3 2008, 10:42 PM
Herron Performance   I have been reading alot about this and it's v...   Jun 6 2008, 05:33 PM
souseless   I've been looking at this and in fact had come...   Jun 11 2008, 01:58 AM
z28tt   The systems disassociate water into Brown's ga...   Jun 11 2008, 04:26 PM
JustinID   Thank you Mike and Andris for adding some sanity t...   Jun 11 2008, 05:48 PM
Alien   But the media would NEVER lie! http://www.wpt...   Jul 31 2008, 02:59 AM
Rob Hood   I have a friend who has installed this contraption...   Jul 31 2008, 06:34 AM
SLICK1851   People use water injection for turbo setups, doesn...   Aug 18 2008, 04:05 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (SLICK1851 @ Aug 17 2008, 11:05 PM)...   Aug 22 2008, 04:19 AM
CMC#5   Guys, guys...you're looking at this all wrong...   Aug 18 2008, 01:10 PM
bsim   Or, they'd be drilling for water by now.   Aug 20 2008, 03:32 AM
Rob Hood   Environmentalists won't let them drill offshor...   Aug 20 2008, 03:36 AM
z28tt   The more heat you take out of the burn, the lower ...   Aug 25 2008, 02:33 PM
ReEntryRacer   QUOTE (z28tt @ Aug 25 2008, 07:33 AM) The...   Sep 7 2008, 03:32 AM
SLICK1851   QUOTE (ReEntryRacer @ Sep 6 2008, 10:32 P...   Sep 11 2008, 03:27 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (SLICK1851 @ Sep 10 2008, 10:27 PM)...   Sep 11 2008, 04:53 AM

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