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post May 30 2008, 05:42 PM
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Very Interesting>>>
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm
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http://runyourcarwithwater.com/

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post Jun 11 2008, 05:48 PM
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Thank you Mike and Andris for adding some sanity to this. It all boils down to conservation of energy (an irrefutable law of physics). It's the idea that nothing comes for free. If you're adding energy to a system, that energy has to come from somewhere. That can be from solar power (directly or indirectly), biological processes (like creating methane from waste), mechanical storage (winding up a spring), electro-chemical conversions (such as using electricity to create hydrogen from water). To get a certain amount of power from a source, at least that much power has to have been placed into that source to begin with. Andris showed this with his calculations: To get a gain from electrically produced hydrogen, you have to put that power into the system first. In this case, that power comes from the alternator. The alternator has to work at least as hard as the engine would work (and in actuality much harder) to make that energy available through the hydrogen.

This scam is similar to that jackass that is selling his "plans" that will inject plasma into your engine, creating the plasma with his 500% efficient generator. Think about that... think about what a plasma torch does to metal. Now think about a 500% efficient device. That means you could plug it into your wall, it would take 100 watts of power and turn it into 500 watts of power... magically. The problem is that they use just enough scientific jargon to confuse the average layperson, but don't actually show anything scientific. It use to be that people could sell "snake oil" out of the back of a covered wagon because people were very ignorant. Now people are more educated, but the scam is exactly the same, you just have to have a more sophisticated sales pitch.

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27Cam02   Have anyones using "run your car w/water"?   May 30 2008, 05:42 PM
27Cam02   Found at LS1Tech.. http://ls1tech.com/forums/showt...   May 30 2008, 06:08 PM
JaredT   QUOTE (27Cam02 @ May 30 2008, 12:42 PM) V...   May 30 2008, 06:37 PM
00 Trans Ram   I haven't looked for the technical rebuttal, b...   May 30 2008, 07:33 PM
JustinID   He's talking about "steam cleaning" ...   May 30 2008, 09:16 PM
trackbird   I'm not defending this since it smells of ...   May 30 2008, 10:11 PM
rpoz-29   I haven't seen this since the oil embargo of t...   May 31 2008, 12:47 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   sounds scary to me.. HHO gas? This is different fr...   May 31 2008, 08:47 PM
gopanoz   There was a segment on local fox channel about thi...   Jun 2 2008, 04:22 AM
RVachon   I wonder if it also gives detailed description how...   Jun 2 2008, 12:49 PM
gopanoz   that has already been done and is free online htt...   Jun 3 2008, 05:57 AM
firechkn   I have the plans to build your own kit. It doesn...   Jun 3 2008, 03:08 PM
00 Trans Ram   Why go to all that trouble? For a couple hundred d...   Jun 3 2008, 03:28 PM
00 SS   Here's the problem I see with all of these sys...   Jun 3 2008, 07:04 PM
firechkn   The alternator is spinning away anyways making ene...   Jun 3 2008, 07:53 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (firechkn @ Jun 3 2008, 03:53 PM) T...   Jun 3 2008, 07:56 PM
00 SS   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 3 2008, 01:56 PM) ...   Jun 3 2008, 09:04 PM
firechkn   I guess the only way to tell for sure is to try it...   Jun 3 2008, 10:42 PM
Herron Performance   I have been reading alot about this and it's v...   Jun 6 2008, 05:33 PM
souseless   I've been looking at this and in fact had come...   Jun 11 2008, 01:58 AM
z28tt   The systems disassociate water into Brown's ga...   Jun 11 2008, 04:26 PM
JustinID   Thank you Mike and Andris for adding some sanity t...   Jun 11 2008, 05:48 PM
Alien   But the media would NEVER lie! http://www.wpt...   Jul 31 2008, 02:59 AM
Rob Hood   I have a friend who has installed this contraption...   Jul 31 2008, 06:34 AM
SLICK1851   People use water injection for turbo setups, doesn...   Aug 18 2008, 04:05 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (SLICK1851 @ Aug 17 2008, 11:05 PM)...   Aug 22 2008, 04:19 AM
CMC#5   Guys, guys...you're looking at this all wrong...   Aug 18 2008, 01:10 PM
bsim   Or, they'd be drilling for water by now.   Aug 20 2008, 03:32 AM
Rob Hood   Environmentalists won't let them drill offshor...   Aug 20 2008, 03:36 AM
z28tt   The more heat you take out of the burn, the lower ...   Aug 25 2008, 02:33 PM
ReEntryRacer   QUOTE (z28tt @ Aug 25 2008, 07:33 AM) The...   Sep 7 2008, 03:32 AM
SLICK1851   QUOTE (ReEntryRacer @ Sep 6 2008, 10:32 P...   Sep 11 2008, 03:27 AM
Mojave   QUOTE (SLICK1851 @ Sep 10 2008, 10:27 PM)...   Sep 11 2008, 04:53 AM

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