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|  Aug 8 2008, 01:47 PM 
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				About time.  I got into watching NASCAR for 2 seasons in the late 90's, then I just couldn't watch it anymore.  It's defiantly not a display of technology and I'm not a huge fan of ovals, but I do still watch the road race events when I can.  I think stockish body shapes would bring a lot of interest back.  I never understood what the big 3 got out of NASCAR the way it is now either.  I think they stayed in becuase the other were and they didn't want to be outdone.  It's not like they can actually use anything the teams come up with on a real car or collect any usable data.  And I not going to buy a Chevrolet because some unrecognizable thing with a bowtie on front wins a bunch of races because there is not 1 modern Chevrolet part in that thing.   I would however watch a racing series using highly modified chassis or tube frame conversions of real cars that I could at least make some connection to a real street car. Stock bodies would also bring the speeds down without the need of restrictor plates. NASCAR to me is a place where the manufactures fight it out in design in some form and that has totally been lost. | 
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|  Aug 24 2008, 10:46 PM 
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| Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 119 Joined: 22-April 06 From: Beloit, Wisconsin Member No.: 1,167  | I would however watch a racing series using highly modified chassis or tube frame conversions of real cars that I could at least make some connection to a real street car.  Stock bodies would also bring the speeds down without the need of restrictor plates.  NASCAR to me is a place where the manufactures fight it out in design in some form and that has totally been lost. Wasn't that the SCCA Trans-Am Series From the late sixties until really the late eighties. In the 90's it seemed liked they were starting to go Cuckoo for Coconuts. | 
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 Rob Hood   Detroit throws the gauntlet at NASCAR...   Aug 8 2008, 03:02 AM
 Rob Hood   Detroit throws the gauntlet at NASCAR...   Aug 8 2008, 03:02 AM 
  StanIROCZ   That was perfect.   Aug 8 2008, 03:21 AM
 StanIROCZ   That was perfect.   Aug 8 2008, 03:21 AM 
  mitchntx   Whoa!
I like what the big 3 are saying, but d...   Aug 8 2008, 03:41 AM
 mitchntx   Whoa!
I like what the big 3 are saying, but d...   Aug 8 2008, 03:41 AM 
  trackbird   It's about time. I'm not a NASCAR fan in t...   Aug 8 2008, 03:53 AM
 trackbird   It's about time. I'm not a NASCAR fan in t...   Aug 8 2008, 03:53 AM 
  Rob Hood   Aside from the obvious (NASCAR never backs down......   Aug 8 2008, 04:15 AM
 Rob Hood   Aside from the obvious (NASCAR never backs down......   Aug 8 2008, 04:15 AM
 
  trackbird   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Aug 8 2008, 12:15 AM) ....   Aug 8 2008, 04:21 AM
 trackbird   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Aug 8 2008, 12:15 AM) ....   Aug 8 2008, 04:21 AM
 
  ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Aug 7 2008, 11:15 PM) A...   Aug 8 2008, 12:55 PM
 ESPCamaro   QUOTE (Rob Hood @ Aug 7 2008, 11:15 PM) A...   Aug 8 2008, 12:55 PM

 
  mitchntx   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 8 2008, 07:55 AM) ...   Aug 8 2008, 01:09 PM
 mitchntx   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Aug 8 2008, 07:55 AM) ...   Aug 8 2008, 01:09 PM


 
  Rob Hood   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 8 2008, 06:09 AM) Q...   Aug 9 2008, 06:09 AM
 Rob Hood   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 8 2008, 06:09 AM) Q...   Aug 9 2008, 06:09 AM 
  rmackintosh   NASCRAP heading for trouble......AMEN!   Aug 8 2008, 05:16 AM
 rmackintosh   NASCRAP heading for trouble......AMEN!   Aug 8 2008, 05:16 AM 
  trackbird   Heck, the ASA cars were at least using LS1's, ...   Aug 8 2008, 02:19 PM
 trackbird   Heck, the ASA cars were at least using LS1's, ...   Aug 8 2008, 02:19 PM 
  00 SS   It's about damn time.  These are the things I...   Aug 8 2008, 02:33 PM
 00 SS   It's about damn time.  These are the things I...   Aug 8 2008, 02:33 PM 
  killer_bluebird   ^^ Ditto, I stopped watching because of the way NA...   Aug 8 2008, 03:41 PM
 killer_bluebird   ^^ Ditto, I stopped watching because of the way NA...   Aug 8 2008, 03:41 PM
 
  CMC #37   QUOTE (killer_bluebird @ Aug 8 2008, 10:4...   Aug 8 2008, 05:43 PM
 CMC #37   QUOTE (killer_bluebird @ Aug 8 2008, 10:4...   Aug 8 2008, 05:43 PM 
  trackbird   True, but now that the manufacturers are not makin...   Aug 8 2008, 04:09 PM
 trackbird   True, but now that the manufacturers are not makin...   Aug 8 2008, 04:09 PM
 
  killer_bluebird   QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 8 2008, 10:09 AM) ...   Aug 8 2008, 05:24 PM
 killer_bluebird   QUOTE (trackbird @ Aug 8 2008, 10:09 AM) ...   Aug 8 2008, 05:24 PM 
  raybob9289   Are you guys ready for the "REAL" Trans ...   Aug 8 2008, 06:08 PM
 raybob9289   Are you guys ready for the "REAL" Trans ...   Aug 8 2008, 06:08 PM
 
  CMC #37   QUOTE (raybob9289 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:08 PM)...   Aug 8 2008, 07:40 PM
 CMC #37   QUOTE (raybob9289 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:08 PM)...   Aug 8 2008, 07:40 PM

 
  trackbird   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Aug 8 2008, 03:40 PM) QU...   Aug 8 2008, 08:43 PM
 trackbird   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Aug 8 2008, 03:40 PM) QU...   Aug 8 2008, 08:43 PM 
  slowcamaro   So is any of this legit or is it just more interne...   Aug 8 2008, 07:53 PM
 slowcamaro   So is any of this legit or is it just more interne...   Aug 8 2008, 07:53 PM 
  AllZWay   I know this is a Nascar bash fest....but ALL of th...   Aug 8 2008, 08:30 PM
 AllZWay   I know this is a Nascar bash fest....but ALL of th...   Aug 8 2008, 08:30 PM 
  00 Trans Ram   I wish I was a France. 
Anyone know of a business...   Aug 8 2008, 08:54 PM
 00 Trans Ram   I wish I was a France. 
Anyone know of a business...   Aug 8 2008, 08:54 PM 
  CMC #37   I was being sarcastic about the COT...I think it i...   Aug 8 2008, 09:22 PM
 CMC #37   I was being sarcastic about the COT...I think it i...   Aug 8 2008, 09:22 PM
 
  Rob Hood   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Aug 8 2008, 02:22 PM) I ...   Aug 9 2008, 05:54 AM
 Rob Hood   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Aug 8 2008, 02:22 PM) I ...   Aug 9 2008, 05:54 AM 
  Eugenio_SS   I've read this section 3x... and don't und...   Aug 8 2008, 09:23 PM
 Eugenio_SS   I've read this section 3x... and don't und...   Aug 8 2008, 09:23 PM
 
  sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Aug 8 2008, 05:23 PM)...   Aug 30 2008, 01:07 AM
 sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Aug 8 2008, 05:23 PM)...   Aug 30 2008, 01:07 AM

 
  roadracetransam   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Aug 29 2008, 06:07 PM) ...   Aug 30 2008, 01:25 AM
 roadracetransam   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Aug 29 2008, 06:07 PM) ...   Aug 30 2008, 01:25 AM


 
  nape   QUOTE (roadracetransam @ Aug 29 2008, 08...   Aug 31 2008, 08:46 PM
 nape   QUOTE (roadracetransam @ Aug 29 2008, 08...   Aug 31 2008, 08:46 PM 
  rpoz-29   One of my beefs with NASCAR is the mandatory tire ...   Aug 9 2008, 12:55 PM
 rpoz-29   One of my beefs with NASCAR is the mandatory tire ...   Aug 9 2008, 12:55 PM 
  nape   I can only speak from personal experience, but the...   Aug 9 2008, 03:16 PM
 nape   I can only speak from personal experience, but the...   Aug 9 2008, 03:16 PM 
  raybob9289   Its Coming!!!!   Aug 24 2008, 09:38 PM
 raybob9289   Its Coming!!!!   Aug 24 2008, 09:38 PM 
  1meanZ   I realize that I'm really right-wing here but ...   Aug 29 2008, 10:36 PM
 1meanZ   I realize that I'm really right-wing here but ...   Aug 29 2008, 10:36 PM|   | 
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