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trackbird
post Sep 7 2008, 03:19 AM
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One of the members here asked me about the 25mm adjustable rear sway bar kits to go with his new watts link (where he's going to lower the roll center). I spoke to David at Hellwig at one point and he advised me that if we had enough orders, they could do a run of them. At the time, I think we were talking about doing 10 bars. However, we may be able to get it done with a few less (I never got a hard number). The point of all this is, if we can get enough interest, I'll gladly put an order together for a group buy for the 25mm bars.

So, how many people would be interested in the 25mm adjustable rear sway bar kit from Hellwig?

Let me know and I'll see what I can do.
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post Oct 4 2008, 05:37 PM
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Kevin, after experimenting a bit, I've confirmed that the 7/8" Hellwig bar just ain't gonna fit with the Watts (at least not unless the roll center is maintained at the stock height, which I don't intend to do, and even that is dicey). I have to back out on ordering the 1" bar unless Hellwig can make the change we discussed. I have some pictures for you. I just need to sort through them, but I may get a few more today after swapping. I may just mail you a CD so I can maintain the original resolution.

Jim, you might want to just disconnect the swaybar link at one end of your current bars and do the corner weighting with just the springs. Then when you reconnect or replace the bars, shim the wheels to level, and then adjust the links for no preload on the bars. Then they should not affect the corner weighting.

I have my garage floor marked so I always put the car in the same place. The front ramps are level, and I use stocks of 2x12s under the rear wheels to get it level. On my floor, I have to add a 3/4" plywood shim on top of the stack under the left rear wheel. As long as I always put it in the same place, I know it will be level.

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post Oct 4 2008, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (sgarnett @ Oct 4 2008, 01:37 PM) *
Kevin, after experimenting a bit, I've confirmed that the 7/8" Hellwig bar just ain't gonna fit with the Watts (at least not unless the roll center is maintained at the stock height, which I don't intend to do, and even that is dicey). I have to back out on ordering the 1" bar unless Hellwig can make the change we discussed. I have some pictures for you. I just need to sort through them, but I may get a few more today after swapping. I may just mail you a CD so I can maintain the original resolution.

Hmm, that's a problem as I want both the lower roll center with the Watts & the adjustable 1" bar. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 4 2008, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (JimMueller @ Oct 4 2008, 01:22 PM) *
QUOTE (sgarnett @ Oct 4 2008, 01:37 PM) *
Kevin, after experimenting a bit, I've confirmed that the 7/8" Hellwig bar just ain't gonna fit with the Watts (at least not unless the roll center is maintained at the stock height, which I don't intend to do, and even that is dicey). I have to back out on ordering the 1" bar unless Hellwig can make the change we discussed. I have some pictures for you. I just need to sort through them, but I may get a few more today after swapping. I may just mail you a CD so I can maintain the original resolution.

Hmm, that's a problem as I want both the lower roll center with the Watts & the adjustable 1" bar. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yeah, since most of the orders will probably be for use with the Watts, it won't make much sense to make this run unless they can be tweaked to fit. It's easy enough from a design point of view, but depending on how their tooling is set up, it may or may not be feasible for a low-volume order - to be determined.

The bar will fit with the car at rest, but bump travel will rotate the bar into the bellcrank. There isn't really room to fix it by shortening the links either.
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trackbird   Possible run of 25mm Hellwig adjustable rear bars   Sep 7 2008, 03:19 AM
v7guy   I guess it would mostly rely on price. I've g...   Sep 7 2008, 06:34 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (v7guy @ Sep 7 2008, 01:34 AM) What...   Sep 7 2008, 04:46 PM
sgarnett   I'll take one.   Sep 7 2008, 02:14 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   I am interested in one as well. I am putting toge...   Sep 8 2008, 11:20 AM
shortbus   I don't suppose there are any handy pictures o...   Sep 8 2008, 12:25 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (shortbus @ Sep 8 2008, 08:25 AM) I...   Sep 8 2008, 12:40 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   Hey Guys, I spoke with Hellwig today and they stat...   Sep 19 2008, 12:59 AM
trackbird   If it's in the budget, I might (MIGHT) buy one...   Sep 19 2008, 01:09 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 18 2008, 08:09 PM)...   Sep 19 2008, 11:01 AM
trackbird   I started to add that too Sean....   Sep 19 2008, 12:14 PM
JimMueller   OK, I'm in, but you'll need to scratch me ...   Oct 4 2008, 04:04 PM
trackbird   It uses a high durometer poly end link (looks like...   Oct 4 2008, 04:34 PM
sgarnett   Kevin, after experimenting a bit, I've confirm...   Oct 4 2008, 05:37 PM
JimMueller   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Oct 4 2008, 01:37 PM) K...   Oct 4 2008, 06:22 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Oct 4 2008, 01:22 PM)...   Oct 4 2008, 08:35 PM
trackbird   Send me the photos when you can (mail is fine, PM ...   Oct 5 2008, 03:29 AM
sgarnett   Last night I discovered/remembered that my LCAs ar...   Oct 5 2008, 03:19 PM
Major_Lee_Slow   Trackbird, I guess I'll just sit tight and se...   Oct 8 2008, 01:17 PM
trackbird   I'm just waiting on the photos and info from S...   Oct 8 2008, 01:30 PM
sgarnett   Yeah, sorry, I've been spending too much time ...   Oct 8 2008, 03:39 PM
trackbird   I spoke to David at Hellwig today. He said they sh...   Oct 8 2008, 07:50 PM
sgarnett   OK, I sorted the pics and dropped some to CD. Ther...   Oct 9 2008, 03:45 AM
sgarnett   Hellwig has redesigned the adjustable bar to work ...   Jan 24 2009, 01:25 AM
trackbird   Just let me know if anyone needs them, I'll st...   Jan 25 2009, 10:27 PM

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