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GlennCMC70
post Nov 4 2008, 10:48 PM
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where does the cooling air for the rad come from on 82-92 Camaros as delivered from the factory - front or bottom?
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post Nov 5 2008, 01:31 AM
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mostly good info, and some mis-info here. Here is the exact facts.

Camaros:
82-83 Z28s with the LU5 engine option (crossfire injection) came with a composite hood with functional air induction scoops at the end of each hood vent. These opened under WOT just like the old cowl induction chevelles. The scoops feed directly into a square hole in the air cleaner housing between the throttle bodies. When the scoops are open outside air can rush directly into and come in contact with the filter elements themselves. I would call this about as close to ram air as it gets from the factory, but thats my opinion. here is a pic.
(IMG:http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w178/1meanz/crossfirepics.jpg)

There were 84-87 Z28s and IROCs equipped with the L69 (305 HO 190hp) dual snorkel air cleaner ducting. This consists of a normal round air filter housing with a snorkel feeding each side. The snorkels mount to the core support and draw from above the headlights. Some people say this is junk, others insist otherwise. GM offered this complete setup as a performance improvement with the ZZ4 crate engine they offered as a direct replacement for the HO 305, so apparently GM thought it improved performance. I'm sure its 3980457x better than the open element hot air suckers most guys use on carburated or TBI engines. Here is a pic of said dual snorkel setup. The mid 80s carb'd Mustang GTs had something similar...
(IMG:http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w178/1meanz/camaroengine.jpg)



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The Pontiacs are much eaiser to describe. TAs came with what some guys call the 'power bulge' hood. It is the asymmetric bulge off to one side of the hood. This was on TAs from 82-84, and on Formulas until 92. On the LU5 (crossfire injection) and L69 (305 HO) had a functional scoop at the back of the bulge. This opened at WOT and fed the square hole on the LU5 just like the camaro. The L69 powered TAs have a round hole in the lid of the air cleaner that meets the hood for fresh air. This would be more of a cowl induction instead of a ram air, but it is fresh air none-the-less. here is a pic.
(IMG:http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w178/1meanz/TAramair.jpg)

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post Nov 5 2008, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE (1meanZ @ Nov 4 2008, 08:31 PM) *
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The Pontiacs are much eaiser to describe. TAs came with what some guys call the 'power bulge' hood. It is the asymmetric bulge off to one side of the hood. This was on TAs from 82-84, and on Formulas until 92. On the LU5 (crossfire injection) and L69 (305 HO) had a functional scoop at the back of the bulge. This opened at WOT and fed the square hole on the LU5 just like the camaro. The L69 powered TAs have a round hole in the lid of the air cleaner that meets the hood for fresh air. This would be more of a cowl induction instead of a ram air, but it is fresh air none-the-less. here is a pic.
(IMG:http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w178/1meanz/TAramair.jpg)


That's the one I was thinking of.
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GlennCMC70   3rd Gen Camaro Question   Nov 4 2008, 10:48 PM
roadracerwhite   Both, they get air from the bottom and from the fr...   Nov 4 2008, 11:01 PM
GlennCMC70   i'm trying to identify cars that have a factor...   Nov 4 2008, 11:06 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (GlennCMC70 @ Nov 4 2008, 06:06 PM)...   Nov 4 2008, 11:15 PM
axoid   The 82 and 83 Crossfire injected Z-28s has cold ai...   Nov 4 2008, 11:32 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (axoid @ Nov 4 2008, 05:32 PM) The ...   Nov 4 2008, 11:40 PM
GlennCMC70   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Nov 4 2008, 05:40 PM) Q...   Nov 5 2008, 01:09 AM
roadracerwhite   I don't believe there are any ram air set ups....   Nov 4 2008, 11:45 PM
NJSPEEDER   The closest to any kind of "Ram Air" any...   Nov 5 2008, 12:04 AM
1meanZ   mostly good info, and some mis-info here. Here is...   Nov 5 2008, 01:31 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (1meanZ @ Nov 4 2008, 08:31 PM) Fir...   Nov 5 2008, 02:06 AM
Doug Phillips   QUOTE (1meanZ @ Nov 4 2008, 08:31 PM) The...   Nov 5 2008, 05:25 AM
Todd   QUOTE (Doug Phillips @ Nov 5 2008, 12:25 ...   Nov 5 2008, 02:10 PM
RVachon   QUOTE (Todd @ Nov 5 2008, 09:10 AM) QUOTE...   Nov 5 2008, 02:42 PM
1meanZ   QUOTE (Todd @ Nov 5 2008, 09:10 AM) the c...   Nov 5 2008, 04:57 PM
Todd   QUOTE (1meanZ @ Nov 5 2008, 11:57 AM) QUO...   Nov 6 2008, 01:32 PM
RVachon   For the record, the single & dual snorkel are ...   Nov 6 2008, 01:37 PM
StanIROCZ   QUOTE (RVachon @ Nov 6 2008, 08:37 AM) Fo...   Nov 6 2008, 07:48 PM
RVachon   I just found some notes when I did the testing and...   Nov 6 2008, 08:45 PM

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