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|  Nissan could do it, why couldn't the General, New Nissan 370Z | 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 651 Joined: 3-September 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 876  | 
				I've always had a soft spot for the Z-Cars ever since the early 70's, and I just read the Car and Driver short review of the car and I must say, at least on paper, I am impressed.  the exterior dimensions and the wheelbase were shrunk and the HP is up to 330, but torque is a little low at 270.  I wonder how much that can be improved.  The wheels are a little bit, 19 inches, but hey at least there not 20's.  It also comes with 4 piston brakes.  They managed to keep the weight at 3300-3400 lbs, meet the new crash test standards, and Nissan claims the car is stiffer than the last model.  The question is, will it be a competitive Street Prepaired car.  I think the current model runs in BSP.  Could this be a potential replacement for the SS when the time comes.  I'm not sure, but I do know for sure I won't be buying a 2 Ton pig.
				
				
				
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|  Dec 3 2008, 04:02 PM 
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| Advanced Member   Group: Advanced Members Posts: 651 Joined: 3-September 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 876  | 
				Didn't the 300ZX use to run in ESP? It wasn't very competitive there, I wonder why they thought the 350Z would need to be placed in BSP?
				
				
				
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|  Dec 3 2008, 04:20 PM 
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| No El-Use-O.    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,368 Joined: 27-December 03 From: SW Michigan Member No.: 52  | Didn't the 300ZX use to run in ESP? It wasn't very competitive there, I wonder why they thought the 350Z would need to be placed in BSP? N/A versions did I think... T/T 300's were always in BSP. Hard to compete with a 2900lb car w/AWD and more power than anything else.....On top of small, big tires, pretty good chassis. I'd bet that the most competitive BSP car apart from the AWD cars is going to be a new 135i BMW. Great power and torque, small, not that heavy in S/P trim. This post has been edited by ESPCamaro: Dec 3 2008, 04:22 PM | 
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| Collo Rosso    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,220 Joined: 3-August 05 From: San Antonio, TX Member No.: 839  | Didn't the 300ZX use to run in ESP? It wasn't very competitive there, I wonder why they thought the 350Z would need to be placed in BSP? N/A versions did I think... T/T 300's were always in BSP. Hard to compete with a 2900lb car w/AWD and more power than anything else.....On top of small, big tires, pretty good chassis. I'd bet that the most competitive BSP car apart from the AWD cars is going to be a new 135i BMW. Great power and torque, small, not that heavy in S/P trim. Early 911 with a 3.2 carrera engine and all the tire you could stuff under it would be killer if it wasn't for the rally cars. Probably cost $50K to properly build, though. I imagine it'd be ~2500lbs and maybe 250-260RWHP. I'm no Porsche expert so I might be off base with those numbers. | 
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 Major_Lee_Slow   Nissan could do it, why couldn't the General   Dec 3 2008, 02:02 AM
 Major_Lee_Slow   Nissan could do it, why couldn't the General   Dec 3 2008, 02:02 AM 
  BigEnos   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Dec 2 2008, 09:02...   Dec 3 2008, 03:00 AM
 BigEnos   QUOTE (Major_Lee_Slow @ Dec 2 2008, 09:02...   Dec 3 2008, 03:00 AM 
  00 SS   Not that GM couldn't make the Camaro smaller o...   Dec 3 2008, 03:18 AM
 00 SS   Not that GM couldn't make the Camaro smaller o...   Dec 3 2008, 03:18 AM
 
  raybob9289   QUOTE (00 SS @ Dec 2 2008, 08:18 PM) Not ...   Dec 3 2008, 02:24 PM
 raybob9289   QUOTE (00 SS @ Dec 2 2008, 08:18 PM) Not ...   Dec 3 2008, 02:24 PM 
  mitchntx   Not related to this topic, but ...
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  rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Dec 2 2008, 10:41 PM) N...   Dec 3 2008, 07:44 AM
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  poSSum   My rhetorical question is, "what would it wei...   Dec 3 2008, 05:36 AM
 poSSum   My rhetorical question is, "what would it wei...   Dec 3 2008, 05:36 AM
 
  Mojave   QUOTE (poSSum @ Dec 2 2008, 11:36 PM) My ...   Dec 3 2008, 05:42 AM
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  pknowles   I'm with Brian, it will not be competitive in ...   Dec 3 2008, 01:27 PM
 pknowles   I'm with Brian, it will not be competitive in ...   Dec 3 2008, 01:27 PM


 
  pknowles   QUOTE (BigEnos @ Dec 3 2008, 12:05 PM) Ea...   Dec 3 2008, 05:17 PM
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  Todd   QUOTE (pknowles @ Dec 3 2008, 12:17 PM) A...   Dec 3 2008, 06:11 PM
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  BigEnos   QUOTE (Todd @ Dec 3 2008, 01:11 PM) QUOTE...   Dec 3 2008, 08:26 PM
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  sgarnett   FWIW, you can now buy kits to drop an LSx drivetra...   Dec 3 2008, 04:07 PM
 sgarnett   FWIW, you can now buy kits to drop an LSx drivetra...   Dec 3 2008, 04:07 PM
 
  pknowles   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Dec 3 2008, 11:07 AM) F...   Dec 3 2008, 04:11 PM
 pknowles   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Dec 3 2008, 11:07 AM) F...   Dec 3 2008, 04:11 PM
 
  rmackintosh   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Dec 3 2008, 11:07 AM) F...   Dec 3 2008, 04:29 PM
 rmackintosh   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Dec 3 2008, 11:07 AM) F...   Dec 3 2008, 04:29 PM 
  NJSPEEDER   GM vehicles tend to be heavier because they want t...   Dec 3 2008, 08:38 PM
 NJSPEEDER   GM vehicles tend to be heavier because they want t...   Dec 3 2008, 08:38 PM 
  jensend   The sad fact for people who really like performanc...   Dec 4 2008, 02:47 AM
 jensend   The sad fact for people who really like performanc...   Dec 4 2008, 02:47 AM 
  Major_Lee_Slow   Here's the thing that still gets me.  The Niss...   Dec 4 2008, 02:38 PM
 Major_Lee_Slow   Here's the thing that still gets me.  The Niss...   Dec 4 2008, 02:38 PM 
  ESPCamaro   At least in S/P autox trim, cars that start very h...   Dec 4 2008, 05:17 PM
 ESPCamaro   At least in S/P autox trim, cars that start very h...   Dec 4 2008, 05:17 PM
 
  StanIROCZ   QUOTE (NJSPEEDER @ Dec 3 2008, 03:38 PM) ...   Dec 4 2008, 10:14 PM
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  LS1_Alex   Here is where some of the weight comes in..
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 LS1_Alex   Here is where some of the weight comes in..
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  StanIROCZ   QUOTE (LS1_Alex @ Dec 5 2008, 03:21 PM) H...   Dec 5 2008, 09:37 PM
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  NJSPEEDER   The funny thing about the weight of the new Camaro...   Dec 7 2008, 12:05 AM
 NJSPEEDER   The funny thing about the weight of the new Camaro...   Dec 7 2008, 12:05 AM|   | 
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