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1qwikbird
post Mar 18 2009, 01:03 AM
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In getting my 97 3/4 ton Dodge ready for the coming season I thought I'd do front brakes and that turned into more front end work. But I was amazed at the size of the front hub assemblies. And to think this Timken bearing (8800lb suspension, with the big CTD sitting on top of it) with new studs (8 of them) is only $145 (fleabay), compared to the hubs for our cars which are 1/4 the size and contain 1/6 the material and only last for a few months for $100. I think this hub is about the same size and weight as a diff for a stock 10-bolt.

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Ojustracing
post Mar 19 2009, 01:04 AM
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You should see what happens to the bearing/rotor when you have to beat the living crap out of it to get it out of the knuckle. Full power swings from a 4lb hammer until you are tired. Then swap mechanics. The rotor breaks into chunnks and normally the bearing splits in half. Gotta love salt!!!!!!!!!!!!

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post Mar 19 2009, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:04 PM) *
You should see what happens to the bearing/rotor when you have to beat the living crap out of it to get it out of the knuckle. Full power swings from a 4lb hammer until you are tired. Then swap mechanics. The rotor breaks into chunnks and normally the bearing splits in half. Gotta love salt!!!!!!!!!!!!

John


Here's a tip, just in case you need to swap the rotor/bearing in the future. Loosen the four bolts that hold hub to the knuckle about half way, then wedge an extension (with socket) on the bolt and the frame/steering knuckle and use the steering to slowly push the bearing out by turning one way then reset and go the other way. Worked like a charm, no fighting, no BFH, no damaged parts. Not my invention, someone on TDR suggested it.

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post Mar 19 2009, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE (1qwikbird @ Mar 18 2009, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:04 PM) *
You should see what happens to the bearing/rotor when you have to beat the living crap out of it to get it out of the knuckle. Full power swings from a 4lb hammer until you are tired. Then swap mechanics. The rotor breaks into chunnks and normally the bearing splits in half. Gotta love salt!!!!!!!!!!!!

John


Here's a tip, just in case you need to swap the rotor/bearing in the future. Loosen the four bolts that hold hub to the knuckle about half way, then wedge an extension (with socket) on the bolt and the frame/steering knuckle and use the steering to slowly push the bearing out by turning one way then reset and go the other way. Worked like a charm, no fighting, no BFH, no damaged parts. Not my invention, someone on TDR suggested it.


Chris I will look into doing that on the next one I get through the door.

John
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post Mar 19 2009, 03:33 AM
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QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:46 PM) *
QUOTE (1qwikbird @ Mar 18 2009, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:04 PM) *
You should see what happens to the bearing/rotor when you have to beat the living crap out of it to get it out of the knuckle. Full power swings from a 4lb hammer until you are tired. Then swap mechanics. The rotor breaks into chunnks and normally the bearing splits in half. Gotta love salt!!!!!!!!!!!!

John


Here's a tip, just in case you need to swap the rotor/bearing in the future. Loosen the four bolts that hold hub to the knuckle about half way, then wedge an extension (with socket) on the bolt and the frame/steering knuckle and use the steering to slowly push the bearing out by turning one way then reset and go the other way. Worked like a charm, no fighting, no BFH, no damaged parts. Not my invention, someone on TDR suggested it.


Chris I will look into doing that on the next one I get through the door.

John

I usually just put a dab of antiseize on my hubs, where the ABS sensor piece goes through the knuckle. It still takes a couple of whacks with the BFH, but nothing like what you described, John.
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post Mar 19 2009, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (CamaroFS34 @ Mar 18 2009, 09:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:46 PM) *
QUOTE (1qwikbird @ Mar 18 2009, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:04 PM) *
You should see what happens to the bearing/rotor when you have to beat the living crap out of it to get it out of the knuckle. Full power swings from a 4lb hammer until you are tired. Then swap mechanics. The rotor breaks into chunnks and normally the bearing splits in half. Gotta love salt!!!!!!!!!!!!

John


Here's a tip, just in case you need to swap the rotor/bearing in the future. Loosen the four bolts that hold hub to the knuckle about half way, then wedge an extension (with socket) on the bolt and the frame/steering knuckle and use the steering to slowly push the bearing out by turning one way then reset and go the other way. Worked like a charm, no fighting, no BFH, no damaged parts. Not my invention, someone on TDR suggested it.


Chris I will look into doing that on the next one I get through the door.

John

I usually just put a dab of antiseize on my hubs, where the ABS sensor piece goes through the knuckle. It still takes a couple of whacks with the BFH, but nothing like what you described, John.


I've had 4-5 dodge do this, they chevy are doing it too. All of these trucks had lots of miles and plow trucks. But I have talked to other techs and they have the same problem. We clean the knuckle and never seize. You would crap your pants and how hard we are hitting these things. Me and my other tech are not little. When I mean full power hits I truley mean with all your might. Lately we have had a bunch of rotors that would not come off the hub(rusted at flange) and have had to cut rotors in half to remove from the hub. Hyundai and Ford, and Chevy PU(2500/3500).
I did mention about the trick mentioned and will try it, but we both feel we are going to break something with our past luck. But theres always a first for something.

John
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1qwikbird   That's not a front hub......   Mar 18 2009, 01:03 AM
Eskimo   and to think, that design wears out in 100k of nor...   Mar 18 2009, 07:59 PM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (Eskimo @ Mar 18 2009, 03:59 PM) an...   Mar 18 2009, 09:13 PM
Eskimo   I had one... a '98 12v 3500 4wd.. replaced ev...   Mar 18 2009, 10:51 PM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (Eskimo @ Mar 18 2009, 06:51 PM) I ...   Mar 19 2009, 01:37 AM
Eskimo   QUOTE (1qwikbird @ Mar 18 2009, 09:37 PM)...   Mar 19 2009, 12:06 PM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (Eskimo @ Mar 19 2009, 08:06 AM) QU...   Mar 19 2009, 09:54 PM
Ojustracing   You should see what happens to the bearing/rotor w...   Mar 19 2009, 01:04 AM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:04 P...   Mar 19 2009, 01:33 AM
Ojustracing   QUOTE (1qwikbird @ Mar 18 2009, 07:33 PM)...   Mar 19 2009, 01:46 AM
CamaroFS34   QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 18 2009, 09:46 P...   Mar 19 2009, 03:33 AM
Ojustracing   QUOTE (CamaroFS34 @ Mar 18 2009, 09:33 PM...   Mar 19 2009, 05:50 PM
1qwikbird   QUOTE (Ojustracing @ Mar 19 2009, 01:50 P...   Mar 19 2009, 09:56 PM

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