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|  May 17 2009, 03:59 AM 
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| Experienced Member    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,197 Joined: 13-February 04 From: Hudson, Colorado Member No.: 197  | 
				I've heard R12 systems can be converted to R134a.  Does anyone know what's involved?  Should I convert my old car to R134a, or should I just try to get it charged with R12?  I've heard that you have replace the seals in the system, but I've also heard that you don't.  If it's easy and reasonably priced, I'd probably convert it.
				
				
				
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|  May 17 2009, 04:49 PM 
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| I suck at the auto-x :(    Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,421 Joined: 21-April 05 From: TX Member No.: 727  | 
				As I'm sure you know, R12 isn't produced anymore and is getting harder to find and more expensive.  But, a system designed for R12 will definitely cool better with R12 than R134a.  Modern systems designed around R134a cool just fine too, but it takes more R134a (and I suspect a larger evaporator) to get the same performance as R12.  As stated above, the conversion is pretty straight forward.   If you can find some R12 and the price isn't stupid, it might be worth it to keep using it for the better cooling performance. It will probably be cheaper to convert it and run R134a. | 
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 00 SS   R12 AC System   May 17 2009, 03:59 AM
 00 SS   R12 AC System   May 17 2009, 03:59 AM 
  roy   Since R12 is no longer sold in Germany. I just  re...   May 17 2009, 05:25 AM
 roy   Since R12 is no longer sold in Germany. I just  re...   May 17 2009, 05:25 AM 
  TSHACK   There use to be kits for this a few oring a new fi...   May 17 2009, 04:27 PM
 TSHACK   There use to be kits for this a few oring a new fi...   May 17 2009, 04:27 PM 
  TSHACK   I agree with mojave on the R12 if you can find it ...   May 17 2009, 05:53 PM
 TSHACK   I agree with mojave on the R12 if you can find it ...   May 17 2009, 05:53 PM 
  rpoz-29   I've converted 3 vehicles from R-12 to 134a. T...   May 17 2009, 06:06 PM
 rpoz-29   I've converted 3 vehicles from R-12 to 134a. T...   May 17 2009, 06:06 PM 
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 turbotoddie   Purchase AC flush, remove the compressor and drain...   May 19 2009, 01:23 PM 
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  turbotoddie   If it is cool but not cold.  Find someone that alr...   May 20 2009, 01:01 PM
 turbotoddie   If it is cool but not cold.  Find someone that alr...   May 20 2009, 01:01 PM 
  c4racer   buy and horde that R12 stuff!! 
Anybody k...   Jun 3 2009, 09:09 PM
 c4racer   buy and horde that R12 stuff!! 
Anybody k...   Jun 3 2009, 09:09 PM|   | 
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