[KeithO]

The supposed standards about to be enacted might make performance cars more difficult to get for a while. I am wondering if we aren't looking at new-car performance similar to what we saw from 1973 through around 1987...

This is just more motivation for me to maintain my f-body.

Do you guys think that we will be able to achieve this? Regardless, how slow do you think new cars will get before performance returns?

[prockbp]

39 mpg for cars by 2016.... What is the problem with that? You can absolutely still have badass performance vehicles that get that mileage.... The difference? Size.

The thing I like about this is that it forces vehicles to become smaller and lighter... That will help prepare us for real electric vehicles which will have to be much smaller than the average vehicle on the road today....

Don't take me the wrong way though... I'm sick of more-and-more-and-more law... but this law, it doesn't tell me what to do with my life. The intent of this law is to improve our environmental conditions.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/18...eage-standards/

Priuses and Fiestas are not the answer.. those cars blow chunks.. I had a f'ing 1986 Honda that got 50mpg... And my point here is that we took a wrong turn somewhere when 40mpg became more efficient than 50mpg.

This post has been edited by prockbp: May 21 2009, 12:36 AM

[Todd]

39 mpg for cars by 2016.... What is the problem with that? You can absolutely still have badass performance vehicles that get that mileage.... The difference? Size.

The thing I like about this is that it forces vehicles to become smaller and lighter... That will help prepare us for real electric vehicles which will have to be much smaller than the average vehicle on the road today....

Don't take me the wrong way though... I'm sick of more-and-more-and-more law... but this law, it doesn't tell me what to do with my life. The intent of this law is to improve our environmental conditions.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/18...eage-standards/

Priuses and Fiestas are not the answer.. those cars blow chunks.. I had a f'ing 1986 Honda that got 50mpg... And my point here is that we took a wrong turn somwhere when 40mpg became more efficient than 50mpg.

the problem we are facing is that people want fuel economy but the refuse to sacrifice their 18 cup holders, and power butt vibrators. I'm betting that 86 Honda was pretty basic and you'd die a horrible death if hit by one of todays vehicles. I'm not saying its right...hell...I ride my motorcycle to work every day, no side impact protection there. I agree with making changes to protect the environment. I think the big change should be to make most of the cars in high density areas not run on fossil fuels except big delivery vehicles. The rest of the country still needs fossil fuel cars...ie a hybrid/electric isn't really saving much if you are cruising down the highway at 70 mph.