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94bird
post May 31 2004, 06:32 AM
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Are the fans in series in our LT1 engines? Can I remove one of them and still have one working fan? I'm in the middle of doing a few things on the car and the engine isn't running so I'm hoping someone knows before I reinstall everything.
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post May 31 2004, 06:56 AM
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On your '94 you have one fan that kicks on first and a second that kicks on after that. In '95 or '96 they switched to a dual speed set-up where both fans kick on at the same time at low speed and then they both kick up to high speed when required. This is a much more efficient set-up. With both fans on low speed you're using less power, making less noise and moving a ton more CFM through the radiator than one fan on high speed--you can see why they switched. I've tested it quite a bit--one fan on high just doesn't cool worth a crap, both on low speed do better since you aren't sucking air through the opening for the other. And of course both on high speed flat sucks that radiator cold....

That's why I would worry about you removing one of your fans. If you do that you'll open up that hole even more which will make the other even less effective. I know it's not like you commute in the thing anymore, but if you did you would overheat it if you got stuck in traffic on a really hot day. If you seal up the hole for the fan you removed, you'd probably be OK but then you're really restricting air at high speed and will probably have problems there.

Just removing it you'd probably be OK if you only ran on the track at high speeds but I'd still be worried about getting stuck on a red-flagged track or something causing you to overheat. The best option would be to cut the shroud in half and re-sealing it so the one fan is effective at cooling at least a portion of the radiator well but not blocking the rest at high speed.

I know what you're thinking, those are heavy mothers, aren't they? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) But I'll bet you'd have to search high and low to find an aftermarket set-up that moves more air....

[On Edit] Oops. Maybe this was just a simple wiring question...sorry. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Your fans should be wired in parallel...I think. If you have a Helm's they have decent wiring diagrams of them. Mine won't do you any good since it's different. I would assume they are wired in such a manor that if one burns out (or you disconnect it) the other would still be functional. This would be easy to confirm with Tunercat the first time you run it.

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94bird   Cooling fan operation   May 31 2004, 06:32 AM
Jon A   On your '94 you have one fan that kicks on fir...   May 31 2004, 06:56 AM
94bird   I've decided to modify my testing at the track...   May 31 2004, 01:48 PM
rmackintosh   Mike, I tried removing one fan and both when my ca...   May 31 2004, 06:22 PM
94bird   I'm quite surprised that with the BeCool radia...   May 31 2004, 10:15 PM
Jon A   I wonder if there isn't something else going o...   Jun 1 2004, 01:15 AM
94bird   I started looking at my shrouds more over the past...   Jun 1 2004, 03:03 AM
#07   QUOTE (Jon A @ May 31 2004, 07:15 PM)Have you...   Jun 1 2004, 03:09 AM
94bird   Tony, some foam works great to seal up the gap and...   Jun 1 2004, 03:25 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE Have you guys who have taken it out really s...   Jun 1 2004, 04:12 AM
Jon A   Keep in the weather in mind. I did see a bit over...   Jun 1 2004, 04:56 AM
#07   QUOTE (#07 @ May 31 2004, 09:09 PM)I was amaz...   Jun 1 2004, 05:23 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE I wonder if on the stock 94 fan set-up if yo...   Jun 1 2004, 06:03 AM
Jon A   It's a wiring issue. The 96-up cars are wired...   Jun 1 2004, 08:01 AM
94bird   I found a Hayden slimline fan 16" in diameter...   Jun 1 2004, 05:55 PM
94bird   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jun 1 2004, 12:12 AM)QUO...   Jun 1 2004, 05:57 PM
94bird   I measured the size of my plastic deflector that d...   Jun 1 2004, 11:24 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (Jon A @ May 31 2004, 02:56 AM)On your ...   Jun 1 2004, 11:58 PM
94bird   From Shoebox's site: There are two versions o...   Jun 2 2004, 12:33 AM
ESPCamaro   What setup did the 93 cars have. I thought that th...   Jun 2 2004, 02:07 AM
94bird   Each fan weighs 5.5 lbs., with the total assy of 2...   Jun 2 2004, 02:16 AM
ESPCamaro   Really?!! They feel much heavier. Or did ...   Jun 2 2004, 02:22 AM
Soma07   I believe the V6 cars had a single fan but the sam...   Jun 2 2004, 02:53 AM
#07   QUOTE (94bird @ Jun 1 2004, 06:33 PM)By addin...   Jun 2 2004, 02:55 AM
94bird   I believe the wiring would also have to be updated...   Jun 2 2004, 02:58 AM
#07   QUOTE (Soma07 @ Jun 1 2004, 08:53 PM)I believ...   Jun 2 2004, 03:05 AM
#07   QUOTE (94bird @ Jun 1 2004, 08:58 PM)I believ...   Jun 2 2004, 03:08 AM
rmackintosh   Mike... My front breather opening is 3 1/2 tall b...   Jun 2 2004, 03:23 AM
CMC#5   See, that was my impression also, that fans don...   Jun 2 2004, 03:59 AM
Jon A   Interesting, guys. I didn't know they made th...   Jun 2 2004, 07:31 PM
Sam Strano   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ May 31 2004, 10:12 PM)I ...   Jun 2 2004, 08:37 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (sam@stranoparts.com @ Jun 2 2004, 02:3...   Jun 2 2004, 10:10 PM
94bird   Jon, your last post is right along the lines of wh...   Jun 3 2004, 01:18 AM
94bird   Well, I got myself motivated and am making my car ...   Jun 5 2004, 04:48 AM
#07   Sounds really cool,Makes me want to do this too. L...   Jun 6 2004, 06:53 PM
94bird   I've blocked off the air flow from the black p...   Jun 6 2004, 08:00 PM

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