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wannafbody
post Jul 15 2009, 11:09 PM
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How do you know what the perfect spring rate is for a car? How do you know if the car is under or over springed?
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00 Trans Ram
post Jul 16 2009, 01:39 PM
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Be prepared to change the rates. Here's just a very small example.

Take 3 cars we have on course. A softly-sprung LT1 Camaro, a stifly sprung BMW and my car (in between). In some twisty-but-smooth turns, the BMW is fastest, me second, with the LT1 behind.

However, when we are about to come onto the back straight, there are some bumps right at the beginning coming out of the turn. The BMW jumps over them, delaying his ability to get on the gas. The LT1 is able to lay into it and run away from people. I'm in between.

So, it depends where you want to be fast, also. Ideally, it's easier to pass people on straights. But, if you go too slow in the turns, you're gonna get passed (and probably spin out because the car isn't handling well). Plus, we're road racing - we like turning!
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post Jul 16 2009, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jul 16 2009, 08:39 AM) *
Be prepared to change the rates.


Spring rate really is a moving target. The best you can hope for is to get it close and then use tire pressures and wheel spacers to adjust the effective rate in a range.

I've gone from 900 to 800 to 700 to 650 and back to 750 over the last few seasons.

That's why it's a great idea to keep meticulous notes and record as much data as you can.
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wannafbody   underspringing and overspringing a car...   Jul 15 2009, 11:09 PM
GlennCMC70   trial and error. different tracks and surfaces dic...   Jul 15 2009, 11:28 PM
Unbalanced Engineering   Like Glenn said, it really depends on application....   Jul 15 2009, 11:58 PM
wannafbody   Can you corner weight a vehicle and match the spri...   Jul 16 2009, 01:26 AM
GlennCMC70   idea grip? if so, then we would assume a road race...   Jul 16 2009, 02:32 AM
00 Trans Ram   Be prepared to change the rates. Here's just a...   Jul 16 2009, 01:39 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jul 16 2009, 08:39 ...   Jul 16 2009, 02:22 PM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jul 16 2009, 09:22 AM) ...   Jul 16 2009, 06:33 PM
wdtiger   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jul 16 2009, 10:33 ...   Jul 18 2009, 08:31 AM
Unbalanced Engineering   As Matt stated, how bumpy your tracks are and how ...   Jul 16 2009, 02:04 PM
codename Bil Doe   Also, tuning for autox and tuning for road racing ...   Jul 16 2009, 04:42 PM
wannafbody   Here's an example. My TA has 1LE front springs...   Jul 18 2009, 01:26 PM

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