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bruecksteve
post Jun 16 2004, 02:07 AM
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I couldn't help but laugh when I read this... I hate it for the owners but I'm sure they can beat it...

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post Jun 16 2004, 01:00 PM
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Not every failure is race related. But, if they find your autocross results and two days later it comes in with a blown gearbox. I have a pretty good feeling that they and we know what happened to it. Again, this comes back to most of the drivers on the various forums that are "on their 4th clutch in 10,000 miles" or "just broke my gearbox....again", etc. You turn enough guys loose with high performance cars (or any cars) and they will manage to break them. The dealer should not be liable for those guys.

The root of this question is "if you mount drag slicks and break and axle or destroy the rear end, would you ask the dealer to pay for it?". (or, would you be suprised when they don't?)

Autocross is just a drag race with corners, we just run heads up (no brackets).

I mean, sure, they have to "prove" what caused the failure. But, if they know that autocross runs seem to destroy gearboxes and you autocross and blow a gearbox and they have your results, I'd say they could begin to provide a body of proof. Also, almost every EVO I know of has a boost controller on it. I'd think that would void your warranty right there.

I guess my point is, autocross is much harder on parts than many people give it credit for being.

If I go to McDonalds, get a coke, put a lid on it and drop it on the floor. Do I "warranty" that coke for a defective lid? Or, did I use it in a manor that it was not intended?

What if they know I dropped it? (many will say "it's a big company, they can afford it more than I can")

Now, as for the dealer marketing, that could be another story....

How has GM handled the "track" Z06's? Anyone know?
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bruecksteve   Don't worry about Evo's Sam!!   Jun 16 2004, 02:07 AM
00 Trans Ram   I saw this a few days ago, and thought it was just...   Jun 16 2004, 03:09 AM
98_1LE   QUOTE This is very common but also logical. Subaru...   Jun 16 2004, 03:14 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 15 2004, 10:09 PM)I...   Jun 16 2004, 04:07 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (98_1LE @ Jun 15 2004, 10:14 PM)That pr...   Jun 16 2004, 04:08 AM
Nestromo   We will warranty cars with suspension (Ford). But...   Jun 16 2004, 04:25 AM
98_1LE   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 15 2004, 10:08 PM)And,...   Jun 16 2004, 11:37 AM
bruecksteve   I think the issue is how the cars were marketed. T...   Jun 16 2004, 12:14 PM
trackbird   Not every failure is race related. But, if they fi...   Jun 16 2004, 01:00 PM
bruecksteve   And that's part of my point, are Z28's and...   Jun 16 2004, 02:10 PM
mitchntx   I've always contended there was a definite and...   Jun 16 2004, 02:22 PM
trackbird   I'll not disagree that they seem underbuilt. B...   Jun 16 2004, 02:26 PM
AllZWay   I think Mitsu surfing the web finding offenders is...   Jun 16 2004, 02:29 PM
Nestromo   I know a fellow with an '03 Z06. Another of h...   Jun 16 2004, 03:08 PM
prockbp   i feel that it is the responsibility of manufactur...   Jun 16 2004, 03:17 PM
bruecksteve   I agree, and if it were your Evo that broke while ...   Jun 16 2004, 03:22 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 16 2004, 08:22 AM)2) a ...   Jun 16 2004, 03:25 PM
Nestromo   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jun 16 2004, 09:17 AM)if you...   Jun 16 2004, 03:38 PM
pknowles   QUOTE How has GM handled the "track" Z06...   Jun 16 2004, 03:39 PM
pknowles   I would also say that the manufacturer has to clea...   Jun 16 2004, 03:47 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jun 16 2004, 10:17 AM)i feel...   Jun 16 2004, 03:59 PM
trackbird   Wow, there were 5 posts while I was typing that la...   Jun 16 2004, 04:02 PM
jraskell   QUOTE I can just as easily do a 6000 rpm launch on...   Jun 16 2004, 04:09 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (pknowles @ Jun 16 2004, 10:39 AM)I...   Jun 16 2004, 04:12 PM
Barney   GM walked away from my C5 the first year because i...   Jun 16 2004, 04:27 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Barney @ Jun 16 2004, 11:27 AM)GM walk...   Jun 16 2004, 04:48 PM
Barney   I left it in Ohio at Mallett cars for a year. Aft...   Jun 16 2004, 05:15 PM
mitchntx   So Kevin, are you independently wealthy or a male ...   Jun 16 2004, 05:18 PM
Barney   Dealer... You know I made 1 million dollars raci...   Jun 16 2004, 05:28 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Do a 6000 rpm launch right in front of your ...   Jun 16 2004, 05:40 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Barney @ Jun 16 2004, 12:15 PM)I left ...   Jun 16 2004, 06:24 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Barney @ Jun 16 2004, 11:28 AM)Dealer....   Jun 16 2004, 07:55 PM
LT4Firehawk   The folks at the Chevy dealership where I had all ...   Jun 16 2004, 08:07 PM
ESPCamaro   My opinion. Don't sell a high performance veh...   Jun 16 2004, 09:46 PM
prockbp   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 16 2004, 09:59 AM)I th...   Jun 16 2004, 10:24 PM
98_1LE   I think what you guys are missing is that "de...   Jun 16 2004, 10:33 PM
bruecksteve   So in other words, don't buy any high performa...   Jun 16 2004, 11:01 PM
Formula WS6   what was that comment about timed events void warr...   Jun 17 2004, 02:32 AM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 15 2004, 10:07 PM)QUOT...   Jun 17 2004, 02:45 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 16 2004, 09:45 PM)B...   Jun 17 2004, 02:49 AM
00 Trans Ram   OK, now my "lawyer side" is coming out (...   Jun 17 2004, 02:58 AM
00 Trans Ram   One last thing, then I'll let a few others hav...   Jun 17 2004, 03:05 AM
trackbird   That was very cool of them.   Jun 17 2004, 03:33 AM
CMC #37   Very cool indeed! I have had lots of similar e...   Jun 17 2004, 05:11 AM
AllZWay   This whole Mistu case might be an interesting one ...   Jun 17 2004, 01:15 PM
bruecksteve   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 16 2004, 10:05 PM)O...   Jun 17 2004, 01:45 PM
Eric02z   Its the Magnuson-Moss act of 1975.... http://www....   Jun 18 2004, 03:03 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eric02z @ Jun 17 2004, 10:03 PM)Its th...   Jun 18 2004, 05:41 AM

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