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post Jun 16 2004, 02:07 AM
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I couldn't help but laugh when I read this... I hate it for the owners but I'm sure they can beat it...

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post Jun 16 2004, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (prockbp @ Jun 16 2004, 10:17 AM)
i feel that it is the responsibility of manufacturers to build cars that can handle the job that they were built for...

the EVO is a performance car.. it should be built to handle high performance


i don't understand why you guys are so willing to bend over... if your work truck roasted a ring gear while pulling a heavy load, you would definately take it to the dealer and get it warrantied

I don't think it's a willingness to bend over. I think it is based in the ability to accept responsibility for your actions.

If I dump the clutch at 6000 rpm and the clutch explodes, I expect that I'll be buying a new clutch. If I am running laps on a road course and melt down the rear axle, I will be buying an axle. I don't expect the dealer to cover extreme use. If autocrossing melts down a power steering pump, I'll buy a pump. If I break it, I bought it.

Let me put it this way.

If you sell me a clutch and I install it (new in the box, but sitting on your shelf until the manufacturers warranty is "over"), head to the autocross and it comes apart during a run. Should I call you and tell you I want my money back from you for the clutch? Would you give it to me?

That is the difference. You wouldn't likely "bend over" and give me my money back. Would you?

As for a truck. If I was pulling a rated load, I'd take it in. If I was pulling tree stumps out of the ground or running a truck pull, I'd probably not take it in. The difference is that trucks are "load rated" and if I am within that load and it fails they can fix it. In this case we have a "hard number" to denote abuse. Cars requre you to stick to "reasonable and prudent" and everyone has a different definition of that.
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bruecksteve   Don't worry about Evo's Sam!!   Jun 16 2004, 02:07 AM
00 Trans Ram   I saw this a few days ago, and thought it was just...   Jun 16 2004, 03:09 AM
98_1LE   QUOTE This is very common but also logical. Subaru...   Jun 16 2004, 03:14 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 15 2004, 10:09 PM)I...   Jun 16 2004, 04:07 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (98_1LE @ Jun 15 2004, 10:14 PM)That pr...   Jun 16 2004, 04:08 AM
Nestromo   We will warranty cars with suspension (Ford). But...   Jun 16 2004, 04:25 AM
98_1LE   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 15 2004, 10:08 PM)And,...   Jun 16 2004, 11:37 AM
bruecksteve   I think the issue is how the cars were marketed. T...   Jun 16 2004, 12:14 PM
trackbird   Not every failure is race related. But, if they fi...   Jun 16 2004, 01:00 PM
bruecksteve   And that's part of my point, are Z28's and...   Jun 16 2004, 02:10 PM
mitchntx   I've always contended there was a definite and...   Jun 16 2004, 02:22 PM
trackbird   I'll not disagree that they seem underbuilt. B...   Jun 16 2004, 02:26 PM
AllZWay   I think Mitsu surfing the web finding offenders is...   Jun 16 2004, 02:29 PM
Nestromo   I know a fellow with an '03 Z06. Another of h...   Jun 16 2004, 03:08 PM
prockbp   i feel that it is the responsibility of manufactur...   Jun 16 2004, 03:17 PM
bruecksteve   I agree, and if it were your Evo that broke while ...   Jun 16 2004, 03:22 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 16 2004, 08:22 AM)2) a ...   Jun 16 2004, 03:25 PM
Nestromo   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jun 16 2004, 09:17 AM)if you...   Jun 16 2004, 03:38 PM
pknowles   QUOTE How has GM handled the "track" Z06...   Jun 16 2004, 03:39 PM
pknowles   I would also say that the manufacturer has to clea...   Jun 16 2004, 03:47 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jun 16 2004, 10:17 AM)i feel...   Jun 16 2004, 03:59 PM
trackbird   Wow, there were 5 posts while I was typing that la...   Jun 16 2004, 04:02 PM
jraskell   QUOTE I can just as easily do a 6000 rpm launch on...   Jun 16 2004, 04:09 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (pknowles @ Jun 16 2004, 10:39 AM)I...   Jun 16 2004, 04:12 PM
Barney   GM walked away from my C5 the first year because i...   Jun 16 2004, 04:27 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Barney @ Jun 16 2004, 11:27 AM)GM walk...   Jun 16 2004, 04:48 PM
Barney   I left it in Ohio at Mallett cars for a year. Aft...   Jun 16 2004, 05:15 PM
mitchntx   So Kevin, are you independently wealthy or a male ...   Jun 16 2004, 05:18 PM
Barney   Dealer... You know I made 1 million dollars raci...   Jun 16 2004, 05:28 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Do a 6000 rpm launch right in front of your ...   Jun 16 2004, 05:40 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Barney @ Jun 16 2004, 12:15 PM)I left ...   Jun 16 2004, 06:24 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Barney @ Jun 16 2004, 11:28 AM)Dealer....   Jun 16 2004, 07:55 PM
LT4Firehawk   The folks at the Chevy dealership where I had all ...   Jun 16 2004, 08:07 PM
ESPCamaro   My opinion. Don't sell a high performance veh...   Jun 16 2004, 09:46 PM
prockbp   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 16 2004, 09:59 AM)I th...   Jun 16 2004, 10:24 PM
98_1LE   I think what you guys are missing is that "de...   Jun 16 2004, 10:33 PM
bruecksteve   So in other words, don't buy any high performa...   Jun 16 2004, 11:01 PM
Formula WS6   what was that comment about timed events void warr...   Jun 17 2004, 02:32 AM
00 Trans Ram   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 15 2004, 10:07 PM)QUOT...   Jun 17 2004, 02:45 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 16 2004, 09:45 PM)B...   Jun 17 2004, 02:49 AM
00 Trans Ram   OK, now my "lawyer side" is coming out (...   Jun 17 2004, 02:58 AM
00 Trans Ram   One last thing, then I'll let a few others hav...   Jun 17 2004, 03:05 AM
trackbird   That was very cool of them.   Jun 17 2004, 03:33 AM
CMC #37   Very cool indeed! I have had lots of similar e...   Jun 17 2004, 05:11 AM
AllZWay   This whole Mistu case might be an interesting one ...   Jun 17 2004, 01:15 PM
bruecksteve   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Jun 16 2004, 10:05 PM)O...   Jun 17 2004, 01:45 PM
Eric02z   Its the Magnuson-Moss act of 1975.... http://www....   Jun 18 2004, 03:03 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eric02z @ Jun 17 2004, 10:03 PM)Its th...   Jun 18 2004, 05:41 AM

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