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JimMueller
post Mar 27 2011, 12:02 AM
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I took my daily driver to a little road race practice course today. Each lap was only a minute and I'd stay out there for only 5-10 minutes. The first session I just wanted to work on tire temps, then I let it cool down. I actually logged the second session and have some questions.

Water temp: I live in Florida, so I run 100% distilled water with maybe 1-2 bottles of water wetter. After 7 laps, I noticed the coolant temp was at the 3/4 mark so I brought the car in. The scan tool later revealed the temp had peaked at 244*. Isn't that a bit warm? Solutions?

Brakes: In the front I have standard C6 calipers, Trackbrackets, DTC-30 pads, new standard C6 rotors. In the rear I have Powerslot rotors and HPS pads. All stainless lines and using SRF fluid. While it didn't have a problem stopping, the pedal became easier to depress and started grabbing hard closer to the floor. I didn't like the feel of this, how do I remedy it?

The log also shows it was pulling 4* of timing on all WOT sections. I bet I have a knock sensor code (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Mar 27 2011, 01:58 PM
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Here's some tire data if someone can confirm my thoughts. 315/35/17 A6's on 17x11 wheels. Link to the track diagram is here. All the outside corners are off-camber.

Corner Out/Ctr/In/Pressure
LF 167/161/161/42.5*
LR 136/145/141/37.5*

Corner In/Ctr/Out/Pressure
RF 156/143/140/42.5*
RR 140/145/133/38.5

Do any of those numbers indicate I should tweak my camber or caster? Because I didn't have a compressor, I started the first session with 35* in all four tires which I assumed would be too high and I could just bleed it off. It seems like dropping 1psi drops the center temp about 3*, so I planned to use these pressures on the third session (which I didn't run because of the water temp concerns):

LF 43.5
LR 35.5
RF 44.5
RR 35.5

The handling was decent for the most part. I used 3rd gear in the increasing radius sweeper and the rear end wanted to slowly slide out on me. After the sweeper it straightens out for before a ~60* right hand turn going into a S-curve. I tried braking late every time for that hard turn and never engaged the ABS, but the soft pedal (which returned to normal on the way home) gave me concern. The pavement in the middle of the S-curve gave me traction problems because it is rough.

I've been there a number of times in the past (when I had a built LS1 instead of a built LS3), and I think I usually used 2nd gear in that increasing radius sweeper because I remember having to shift. I'm not sure what's quicker to the 60* turn...leaving it in 3rd all the way, or using 2nd (which will cause more traction problems and less speed in the sweeper) and then shift as necessary.

Front suspension is Koni DA's with 650# springs and 35mm solid bar. Rear suspension is Koni DA's with 300# springs,UE lowered PHB, 24mm solid bar, UETA, UE LCA's. I finally got around to adding the 1/2 turn of preload Sean suggested last September. I'll check the zip ties today when I put the street tires back on.
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JimMueller   Fluid temps   Mar 27 2011, 12:02 AM
JimMueller   Here's some tire data if someone can confirm m...   Mar 27 2011, 01:58 PM
JimMueller   The zip ties are maybe 1-1.5" from the botom ...   Mar 27 2011, 02:27 PM
Blainefab   Hot outside on the LF is normal on a right turn co...   Mar 27 2011, 07:37 PM
JimMueller   It was bright but cloudy, should've been in th...   Mar 27 2011, 08:26 PM
JimMueller   Alan - do you sell any complete cooling kits which...   Mar 28 2011, 02:11 AM
Blainefab   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Mar 27 2011, 07:11 PM...   Mar 28 2011, 08:39 PM
JimMueller   QUOTE (Blainefab @ Mar 28 2011, 04:39 PM)...   Mar 28 2011, 09:07 PM
JimMueller   I bought used versions and replaced the upper radi...   Apr 10 2011, 12:44 AM
JimMueller   How does the Mocal sandwich adapter compare to the...   Apr 11 2011, 08:27 PM
JimMueller   I spoke with Marvin at Setrab USA and he says they...   Apr 12 2011, 07:23 PM
trackbird   I don't love 8an for oil coolers, I just think...   Apr 12 2011, 07:44 PM
JimMueller   My bad, I meant plenty of 3/8" <-> 10AN...   Apr 12 2011, 08:00 PM
Blainefab   Have you driven the car since fixing the radiator ...   Apr 12 2011, 08:20 PM
JimMueller   I've daily driven it since re-installing the s...   Apr 12 2011, 09:10 PM
JimMueller   More feedback from Improved Racing regarding the o...   Apr 13 2011, 08:16 PM
Blainefab   What does the dipstick read now? Especially with...   Apr 13 2011, 09:00 PM
JimMueller   I haven't even checked the oil since the day a...   Apr 13 2011, 09:40 PM
FASTFATBOY   Does your car have any add on bodywork on the fron...   Apr 13 2011, 09:44 PM
FASTFATBOY   http://www.rksport.com/main/part_detail.as...d=1...   Apr 13 2011, 09:47 PM
Chris   QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ Apr 13 2011, 09:47 PM...   Apr 14 2011, 12:00 AM
JimMueller   My car came with the factory appearance package, s...   Apr 13 2011, 09:58 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Apr 13 2011, 02:58 PM...   Apr 13 2011, 10:51 PM
JimMueller   Alan - So you're saying that although the air ...   Apr 14 2011, 12:41 AM
Blainefab   Thanks for the pic, Jim. I've been getting lit...   Apr 14 2011, 08:47 AM
JimMueller   Yes the air deflector was on during the track sess...   Apr 14 2011, 01:06 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Apr 14 2011, 06:06 AM...   Apr 15 2011, 07:01 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Blainefab @ Apr 15 2011, 12:01 PM)...   Apr 21 2011, 09:31 AM
JimMueller   QUOTE (Blainefab @ Apr 21 2011, 05:31 AM)...   Apr 21 2011, 01:05 PM
JimMueller   I have a Windows software application which can re...   Apr 15 2011, 08:15 PM
JimMueller   Almost overheated yesterday. Added water and it se...   Apr 20 2011, 08:46 PM
Blainefab   Don't use stop leak - that crap will clog up t...   Apr 20 2011, 09:10 PM
FASTFATBOY   Park it and put a radiator in it, $160 ish.   Apr 20 2011, 09:15 PM
BryanL   I have a stock radiator that is used for say 40 bu...   Apr 20 2011, 09:44 PM
JimMueller   Dennis at Ron Davis recommended a product called A...   Apr 20 2011, 09:53 PM
JimMueller   The water isn't leaking that quickly at this t...   Apr 22 2011, 03:06 PM
trackbird   I put a radiator based oil cooler in my car (a cus...   Apr 22 2011, 05:11 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (trackbird @ Apr 22 2011, 10:11 AM)...   Apr 22 2011, 07:48 PM
JimMueller   Hmm, wouldn't I also have more to be concerned...   Apr 22 2011, 06:20 PM
Blainefab   Yes, there is a risk that a oil/water heat exchang...   Apr 22 2011, 07:32 PM
JimMueller   RD offers either a tranny or an oil cooler, but no...   Apr 22 2011, 08:33 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Apr 22 2011, 01:33 PM...   Apr 23 2011, 07:54 PM
JimMueller   I forgot to mention there seems to be a conflict i...   Apr 23 2011, 12:53 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Apr 23 2011, 05:53 AM...   Apr 23 2011, 08:19 PM
FASTFATBOY   Go to a GM dealer and buy the sealing tablets, you...   Apr 23 2011, 09:57 PM
JimMueller   Alan - LGM claims their radiator is completely plu...   Apr 24 2011, 12:57 PM
Blainefab   I have no preference green vs orange for a street ...   Apr 24 2011, 07:07 PM
JimMueller   Mitch sent me links to some old photos of the LGM ...   Apr 25 2011, 12:11 AM
Blainefab   Looks like it fits fine with the AC condenser. You...   Apr 25 2011, 08:50 AM
JimMueller   Cutting off the edges of the mount like that was a...   Apr 25 2011, 10:52 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Apr 25 2011, 05:52 AM...   Apr 25 2011, 11:11 AM
FASTFATBOY   Aluminum is soft, there needs to be a rubber seper...   Apr 25 2011, 01:49 PM
JimMueller   QUOTE (FASTFATBOY @ Apr 25 2011, 09:49 AM...   Apr 25 2011, 04:17 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (JimMueller @ Apr 25 2011, 09:17 AM...   Apr 25 2011, 07:02 PM
mitchntx   Hey ... I wuz just a rookie back then ...   Apr 27 2011, 09:32 PM
JimMueller   I spoke with Bobby @ LGM because Anthony was tunin...   Apr 28 2011, 09:15 PM
JimMueller   Still haven't bought the new radiator, but the...   May 22 2011, 04:57 AM

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