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TylerWilson785
post Sep 19 2011, 01:44 AM
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Guys
A few days ago I found a thread with pics of a lowered chin deflector that had bracing behind it so that it wouldn't bend back.
I cannot find it now, where is it?
I would like to do a similar setup.

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Tyler
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firehawkclone
post Sep 21 2011, 02:54 PM
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Here's something i did way back in the day, it was the very first design. I still have the brackets and some of the plastic cardboard stuff(light strong self clearence's) today. It will go on my black car if it ever hits the track.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/firehawkclone/Car%20fab%20pics/DSC00775.jpg)
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post Sep 21 2011, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Sep 21 2011, 02:54 PM) *
Here's something i did way back in the day, it was the very first design. I still have the brackets and some of the plastic cardboard stuff(light strong self clearence's) today. It will go on my black car if it ever hits the track.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/firehawkclone/Car%20fab%20pics/DSC00775.jpg)


Hey! That is what I have been talking about this whole time!!! Thanks firehawk clone, I wasn't dreaming after all.
Now I am going to go print that off so I don't lose THIS thread.
I would like to take that and add some brake ducts and I should be set.

BPWilliams I don't think I am to the point yet where I will switch to a front breather. I guess if nothing else will work, then I could but I still have a few things to try before I give up and switch to a front breather.

Thanks everyone for your input.

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post Sep 22 2011, 05:59 AM
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QUOTE (TylerWilson785 @ Sep 21 2011, 12:36 PM) *
QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Sep 21 2011, 02:54 PM) *
Here's something i did way back in the day, it was the very first design. I still have the brackets and some of the plastic cardboard stuff(light strong self clearence's) today. It will go on my black car if it ever hits the track.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/firehawkclone/Car%20fab%20pics/DSC00775.jpg)


Hey! That is what I have been talking about this whole time!!! Thanks firehawk clone, I wasn't dreaming after all.
Now I am going to go print that off so I don't lose THIS thread.
I would like to take that and add some brake ducts and I should be set.

BPWilliams I don't think I am to the point yet where I will switch to a front breather. I guess if nothing else will work, then I could but I still have a few things to try before I give up and switch to a front breather.

Thanks everyone for your input.

Tyler


My luck with that kind of bracing was less than successful. First time I went off course, I bent those braces backwards.

I wound up drilling a small hole in the plastic and running a 1/8" piece of braided cable from the bumper support to the air dam.
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:31 PM
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Quick bump..


Is a bottom breathing-stock LS1 radiator even capable of cooling 500 rwhp on a hot HPDE day (90+*F), what about a not hot day (sub 90)? I also don't drive like your average HPDE'r since I've been racing a while (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I had the heater blasting on high and water temps were getting to 240+ but would cool down relatively quickly if I back off (I wasn't pushing that hard to begin with)
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post Sep 27 2011, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (Chris Ronson Jr @ Sep 26 2011, 03:31 PM) *
Quick bump..


Is a bottom breathing-stock LS1 radiator even capable of cooling 500 rwhp on a hot HPDE day (90+*F), what about a not hot day (sub 90)? I also don't drive like your average HPDE'r since I've been racing a while (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I had the heater blasting on high and water temps were getting to 240+ but would cool down relatively quickly if I back off (I wasn't pushing that hard to begin with)


There's a bunch of little things that will help, but you've still got 10yr old parts with an unknown amount of corrosion/fine debris that will reduce the efficiency of the cooling system.

Replace coolant mix with DI water/Water Wetter

pop off the top cap and clean out any debris collected between radiator and AC condensor

blow out the radiator/condensor with compressed air - back to front seems most effective

Seal the gaps in the shrouding forward of the radiator

extend the deflector downward an inch or so - wider is better too

My C5 wouldn't turn the fans on till 235 unless AC was on, so on a hot day I'd run the AC on grid, keeping the fans on and coolant at about 205 IIRC. As I headed out on track I'd turn AC and TC off.

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post Sep 28 2011, 11:02 PM
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Thanks Steve! Did you make that piece and add it on, or is this the RK Sport extended piece? (do they even still make that, was it ever a decent option, or is making your own the best option?) If you made it what material did you use? Or just the same as what others used?

QUOTE (Blainefab @ Sep 27 2011, 12:07 PM) *
There's a bunch of little things that will help, but you've still got 10yr old parts with an unknown amount of corrosion/fine debris that will reduce the efficiency of the cooling system.

Replace coolant mix with DI water/Water Wetter

pop off the top cap and clean out any debris collected between radiator and AC condensor

blow out the radiator/condensor with compressed air - back to front seem most effective

Seal the gaps in the shrouding forward of the radiator

extend the deflector downward an inch or so - wider is better too

My C5 wouldn't turn the fans on till 235 unless AC was on, so on a hot day I'd run the AC on grid, keeping the fans on and coolant at about 205 IIRC. As I headed out on track I'd turn AC and TC off.


Thanks Alan: radiator has been flushed with the new motor going in and then again prior to the weekend for distilled water/water wetter and radiator and condensor have been blown out. I guess the next step is sealing the gaps and extending the deflector. Has anyone found a difference between lower 1" vs lower 2" and so on? Or is 1" really all one needs to keep a high powered bottom breather fed?



I miss the Corvette (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Sep 29 2011, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE (Chris Ronson Jr @ Sep 28 2011, 04:02 PM) *
Has anyone found a difference between lower 1" vs lower 2" and so on? Or is 1" really all one needs to keep a high powered bottom breather fed?


I miss the Corvette (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


Too low and it will drag - the OEM piece has a bit of forward rake from the angle of attachment - beat it up too often and it will bend rearwards, and then you need reinforcement, and then it is more prone to getting ripped off instead of flexing.

My SWAG is 1" lower, full width, is about right.
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TylerWilson785   lowered chin deflector, braced with pics   Sep 19 2011, 01:44 AM
trackbird   Here's some of the splitter threads (I think y...   Sep 19 2011, 11:43 AM
TylerWilson785   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 19 2011, 11:43 AM)...   Sep 20 2011, 01:46 AM
Steve91T   QUOTE (TylerWilson785 @ Sep 19 2011, 09:4...   Sep 20 2011, 02:13 AM
trackbird   I extended the chin deflector on my '92 Z28. B...   Sep 20 2011, 12:45 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 20 2011, 08:45 AM)...   Sep 20 2011, 01:09 PM
TylerWilson785   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Sep 20 2011, 01:09 PM) ...   Sep 20 2011, 01:58 PM
trackbird   Hmm...round two? http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/ind...   Sep 20 2011, 02:58 PM
TylerWilson785   QUOTE (TylerWilson785 @ Sep 19 2011, 01:4...   Sep 20 2011, 07:53 PM
trackbird   I used to be good at this. I've been here a lo...   Sep 20 2011, 09:23 PM
TylerWilson785   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 20 2011, 09:23 PM)...   Sep 21 2011, 01:54 AM
StanIROCZ   Blaine showed his air dam for his green 94. I was...   Sep 21 2011, 12:02 PM
Steve91T   Tyler, from what I remember of the picture, it loo...   Sep 21 2011, 12:38 PM
firehawkclone   Here's something i did way back in the day, it...   Sep 21 2011, 02:54 PM
TylerWilson785   QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Sep 21 2011, 02:54...   Sep 21 2011, 05:36 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (TylerWilson785 @ Sep 21 2011, 12:3...   Sep 22 2011, 05:59 AM
Chris Ronson Jr   Quick bump.. Is a bottom breathing-stock LS1 rad...   Sep 26 2011, 10:31 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Chris Ronson Jr @ Sep 26 2011, 06...   Sep 27 2011, 12:14 PM
Chris Ronson Jr   QUOTE (Steve91T @ Sep 27 2011, 05:14 AM) ...   Sep 27 2011, 02:52 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Chris Ronson Jr @ Sep 26 2011, 03...   Sep 27 2011, 07:07 PM
Chris Ronson Jr   Thanks Steve! Did you make that piece and add ...   Sep 28 2011, 11:02 PM
Blainefab   QUOTE (Chris Ronson Jr @ Sep 28 2011, 04...   Sep 29 2011, 07:34 AM
BPWilliams   I say cut to the chase and just make it a front br...   Sep 21 2011, 04:15 PM
trackbird   I think that picture was in one of the links I pos...   Sep 21 2011, 06:09 PM
TylerWilson785   QUOTE (trackbird @ Sep 21 2011, 06:09 PM)...   Sep 22 2011, 01:09 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (TylerWilson785 @ Sep 21 2011, 09:0...   Sep 22 2011, 02:35 AM
Steve91T   Here you go.   Sep 27 2011, 06:48 PM
Chris Ronson Jr   Gotcha, thanks Alan   Sep 30 2011, 01:26 AM

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