[rmackintosh]

I just got back from driving a Cadillac XLR with 600 miles on it.....the owner was my dad's neighbor....and was watching us set up my dad's new motorhome today to go to the races next week....he drives up in the thing I tell him "SWEET RIDE!" and he says...."Hey, go ahead and take it out! Take it for as long as you like!" (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Well my wife is there with my daughter and 12 week old son, so I say to her..."....give the kids to grandma, lets GO!"

That car was NICE.......the interior was WAY nicer than I had thought it would have....very German car quality and finish.....leather seats that were firm and supportive but NOT uncomfortable like some....the suspension....VERY FIRM yet still smooth and luxury like...not great tires on it, but still a GREAT compromise for sport/luxury....the motor....Northstar....was peppy, more than I expect from a Caddy, but not Vette like either....

All in all a SWEET car! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now if I could ONLY find $80,000 lying around..... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Formula WS6]

true, variable timing is a good thing. its been around a long time too. honda just mass marketed it. the point was though that the BMW guy was using a crappy excuse to try and justify a crappy or flawed design. many cars have cam and crank sensors not just high end bimmers. the other point was that new tech isnt always better. look at the ls engines they use old school pushrod design. many companies look down on this as if its crap. OHV is the way they say. thats funny i see a low buck pushrod motor spanking the everliving crap out of technologically advanced motors all the time. and OHV isnt anything new either. yet another thing is that back in 2000 i believe the fbody with LS1 power became a low emissions vehicle. was it ever promoted as such? nope, yet heres honda and the other technologically advanced companies promoting it to the point of putting it on the windows of all the cars. and here is this powerhouse of a car getting great gas milage and doing vurtually the same thing with again old technology.

im just ranting this isnt aimed at anyone. i just find that in the push for new technology the idea that its better gets used a little too often and excused a little too often as well. randys experiences with his 5 series prove that. im all for advances in technology and a cleaner environment even, but just like i will not drive a Geo metro to save the environment, i will not drive a technologically advanced vehicle thats no better than some old school design. maybe thats just me.

oh and caddys rule i love the edgy designs.