[370camaro95]

Hello all,

Im looking for some guidance on what is necessary to prep a front or mid pack 4th gen f body for AIX. I am not new to f bodies, as i currently have a '95 z28 with a H/C/I 370lq9/t56 that is prepped for autocross/track days in the manner of koni yellows, strano springs, watts link, Brembo 4 piston caliper in front, all new bushing/balljoints, all the other usual suspension components. Ive decided a goal to get into AIX can be attainable because I am not too far off of the mid ohio track record according to their website. Mainly what i would like to know is:
What kind of power and weight does most of the competition have?

I have read the CMC/AI/AIX rules, but still have a few questions.

What is considered a NASA legal cage for AIX. Is a 6 or 8 pt sufficient?

I realize i would gut the interior, but I don't know if the fixed back corbeau seat I have is legal, I assume it has to be a metal type seat?

On the website regarding rules, you MAY use lexan for front windshield and rear window. By the cars ive seem I assume lexan is REQUIRED front and rear?

I see how CMC and AI are required to run toyo tires, is AIX open to any tire?

Thanks for any and all help.

This post has been edited by 370camaro95: Oct 7 2014, 04:58 PM

[DAlgozine]

To add to the previous suggestions:
How much experience do you have "on track" ?
Have you been to NASA events to watch the racing and check out the race cars and talk to racers ?
Do you know how long it may take you to get your racing license ? It varies wildly depending on track experience, but you need to go through the HPDE progression of 1-4 with NASA , unless you have a race license from another sanctioning body.

I would suggest you don't make any changes or decisions on a race class until you are intimately familiar with the cars of each class, modifications needed, maintenance required to run a couple seasons, expenses, number of racers per class, and get to know the racers in the various classes.

Best of luck

[370camaro95]

To add to the previous suggestions:
How much experience do you have "on track" ?
Have you been to NASA events to watch the racing and check out the race cars and talk to racers ?
Do you know how long it may take you to get your racing license ? It varies wildly depending on track experience, but you need to go through the HPDE progression of 1-4 with NASA , unless you have a race license from another sanctioning body.

I would suggest you don't make any changes or decisions on a race class until you are intimately familiar with the cars of each class, modifications needed, maintenance required to run a couple seasons, expenses, number of racers per class, and get to know the racers in the various classes.

Best of luck

Im aware of what it takes to get a license. Ive been participating in HPDEs for 3 years, autocross for about 5. I was going to get my competition license this year but didnt make it to the last event. Maintenance, car prep, expenses of car maintenance are no problem. i just needed to get a better understanding of what these cars actually are and how theyre setup. Before this thread i had no idea AIX cars were making as much power as they are.

[DAlgozine]

To add to the previous suggestions:
How much experience do you have "on track" ?
Have you been to NASA events to watch the racing and check out the race cars and talk to racers ?
Do you know how long it may take you to get your racing license ? It varies wildly depending on track experience, but you need to go through the HPDE progression of 1-4 with NASA , unless you have a race license from another sanctioning body.

I would suggest you don't make any changes or decisions on a race class until you are intimately familiar with the cars of each class, modifications needed, maintenance required to run a couple seasons, expenses, number of racers per class, and get to know the racers in the various classes.

Best of luck

Im aware of what it takes to get a license. Ive been participating in HPDEs for 3 years, autocross for about 5. I was going to get my competition license this year but didnt make it to the last event. Maintenance, car prep, expenses of car maintenance are no problem. i just needed to get a better understanding of what these cars actually are and how theyre setup. Before this thread i had no idea AIX cars were making as much power as they are.

Like Bob, I've raced both AI and CMC. Currently racing CMC.
There is a little more work to get an Fbody competitive in AI, but it can and has been done. But it is more a function of money and build skills in AI then CMC.
My personal experience...Great racers in both classes. I had some great races in AI over the years. But I've had more close racing , much more often in CMC then in AI. Although, the cars and completion has increased lately in Midwest AI.
I made the switch because of the increasing cost and level of car modifications in AI. Along with the fact that there was/is more cars to race with in CMC, and the completion was closer. Like Bob indicated, AI is more about staying ahead of the car modification game, and CMC is less about the modifications and more about preparation and driving skills. But, there are some great racers in AI, and some guys, TJ (Nape) are able to be completive on a manageable budget. More parts break and wear out sooner in AI. Speed difference is only noticeable on certain tracks, and lap times are pretty close on some tracks.

To answer your question, racing in Midwest CMC over the past few years has been highly completive with some great very close racing and about 8-12 cars per event with a couple getting added each year.

Again, I suggest looking at the cars, dollars being spent, and racers in each class to decide where you want to be.
If you have specific questions about car prep / modifications for an Fbody in either class, I would be happy to elaborate.

This post has been edited by DAlgozine: Oct 9 2014, 05:50 PM

[370camaro95]

To add to the previous suggestions:
How much experience do you have "on track" ?
Have you been to NASA events to watch the racing and check out the race cars and talk to racers ?
Do you know how long it may take you to get your racing license ? It varies wildly depending on track experience, but you need to go through the HPDE progression of 1-4 with NASA , unless you have a race license from another sanctioning body.

I would suggest you don't make any changes or decisions on a race class until you are intimately familiar with the cars of each class, modifications needed, maintenance required to run a couple seasons, expenses, number of racers per class, and get to know the racers in the various classes.

Best of luck

Im aware of what it takes to get a license. Ive been participating in HPDEs for 3 years, autocross for about 5. I was going to get my competition license this year but didnt make it to the last event. Maintenance, car prep, expenses of car maintenance are no problem. i just needed to get a better understanding of what these cars actually are and how theyre setup. Before this thread i had no idea AIX cars were making as much power as they are.

Like Bob, I've raced both AI and CMC. Currently racing CMC.
There is a little more work to get an Fbody competitive in AI, but it can and has been done. But it is more a function of money and build skills in AI then CMC.
My personal experience...Great racers in both classes. I had some great races in AI over the years. But I've had more close racing , much more often in CMC then in AI. Although, the cars and completion has increased lately in Midwest AI.
I made the switch because of the increasing cost and level of car modifications in AI. Along with the fact that there was/is more cars to race with in CMC, and the completion was closer. Like Bob indicated, AI is more about staying ahead of the car modification game, and CMC is less about the modifications and more about preparation and driving skills. But, there are some great racers in AI, and some guys, TJ (Nape) are able to be completive on a manageable budget. More parts break and wear out sooner in AI. Speed difference is only noticeable on certain tracks, and lap times are pretty close on some tracks.

To answer your question, racing in Midwest CMC over the past few years has been highly completive with some great very close racing and about 8-12 cars per event with a couple getting added each year.

Again, I suggest looking at the cars, dollars being spent, and racers in each class to decide where you want to be.
If you have specific questions about car prep / modifications for an Fbody in either class, I would be happy to elaborate.

Thanks to you all, again, big help in getting a better idea of what it takes. One last question, have you ever not had fun? I can just imagine it being an absolute blast. Anyone have any videos they care to share?

[roadracerwhite]

To add to the previous suggestions:
How much experience do you have "on track" ?
Have you been to NASA events to watch the racing and check out the race cars and talk to racers ?
Do you know how long it may take you to get your racing license ? It varies wildly depending on track experience, but you need to go through the HPDE progression of 1-4 with NASA , unless you have a race license from another sanctioning body.

I would suggest you don't make any changes or decisions on a race class until you are intimately familiar with the cars of each class, modifications needed, maintenance required to run a couple seasons, expenses, number of racers per class, and get to know the racers in the various classes.

Best of luck

Im aware of what it takes to get a license. Ive been participating in HPDEs for 3 years, autocross for about 5. I was going to get my competition license this year but didnt make it to the last event. Maintenance, car prep, expenses of car maintenance are no problem. i just needed to get a better understanding of what these cars actually are and how theyre setup. Before this thread i had no idea AIX cars were making as much power as they are.

Like Bob, I've raced both AI and CMC. Currently racing CMC.
There is a little more work to get an Fbody competitive in AI, but it can and has been done. But it is more a function of money and build skills in AI then CMC.
My personal experience...Great racers in both classes. I had some great races in AI over the years. But I've had more close racing , much more often in CMC then in AI. Although, the cars and completion has increased lately in Midwest AI.
I made the switch because of the increasing cost and level of car modifications in AI. Along with the fact that there was/is more cars to race with in CMC, and the completion was closer. Like Bob indicated, AI is more about staying ahead of the car modification game, and CMC is less about the modifications and more about preparation and driving skills. But, there are some great racers in AI, and some guys, TJ (Nape) are able to be completive on a manageable budget. More parts break and wear out sooner in AI. Speed difference is only noticeable on certain tracks, and lap times are pretty close on some tracks.

To answer your question, racing in Midwest CMC over the past few years has been highly completive with some great very close racing and about 8-12 cars per event with a couple getting added each year.

Again, I suggest looking at the cars, dollars being spent, and racers in each class to decide where you want to be.
If you have specific questions about car prep / modifications for an Fbody in either class, I would be happy to elaborate.

Thanks to you all, again, big help in getting a better idea of what it takes. One last question, have you ever not had fun? I can just imagine it being an absolute blast. Anyone have any videos they care to share?

Here are some videos, my youtube channel and a link to some vimeo videos.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCunTMFYZ-Hq61cavZzTCRLA

http://vimeo.com/93217771

http://vimeo.com/93105151

I think you should join us in CMC, but I am biased as well. Ditto what Bob said. There are times when things break again and again where it hasn't been any fun, but the camaraderie of the group makes it all worth it at the end of the day.

[370camaro95]

To add to the previous suggestions:
How much experience do you have "on track" ?
Have you been to NASA events to watch the racing and check out the race cars and talk to racers ?
Do you know how long it may take you to get your racing license ? It varies wildly depending on track experience, but you need to go through the HPDE progression of 1-4 with NASA , unless you have a race license from another sanctioning body.

I would suggest you don't make any changes or decisions on a race class until you are intimately familiar with the cars of each class, modifications needed, maintenance required to run a couple seasons, expenses, number of racers per class, and get to know the racers in the various classes.

Best of luck

Im aware of what it takes to get a license. Ive been participating in HPDEs for 3 years, autocross for about 5. I was going to get my competition license this year but didnt make it to the last event. Maintenance, car prep, expenses of car maintenance are no problem. i just needed to get a better understanding of what these cars actually are and how theyre setup. Before this thread i had no idea AIX cars were making as much power as they are.

Like Bob, I've raced both AI and CMC. Currently racing CMC.
There is a little more work to get an Fbody competitive in AI, but it can and has been done. But it is more a function of money and build skills in AI then CMC.
My personal experience...Great racers in both classes. I had some great races in AI over the years. But I've had more close racing , much more often in CMC then in AI. Although, the cars and completion has increased lately in Midwest AI.
I made the switch because of the increasing cost and level of car modifications in AI. Along with the fact that there was/is more cars to race with in CMC, and the completion was closer. Like Bob indicated, AI is more about staying ahead of the car modification game, and CMC is less about the modifications and more about preparation and driving skills. But, there are some great racers in AI, and some guys, TJ (Nape) are able to be completive on a manageable budget. More parts break and wear out sooner in AI. Speed difference is only noticeable on certain tracks, and lap times are pretty close on some tracks.

To answer your question, racing in Midwest CMC over the past few years has been highly completive with some great very close racing and about 8-12 cars per event with a couple getting added each year.

Again, I suggest looking at the cars, dollars being spent, and racers in each class to decide where you want to be.
If you have specific questions about car prep / modifications for an Fbody in either class, I would be happy to elaborate.

Thanks to you all, again, big help in getting a better idea of what it takes. One last question, have you ever not had fun? I can just imagine it being an absolute blast. Anyone have any videos they care to share?

Here are some videos, my youtube channel and a link to some vimeo videos.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCunTMFYZ-Hq61cavZzTCRLA

http://vimeo.com/93217771

http://vimeo.com/93105151

I think you should join us in CMC, but I am biased as well. Ditto what Bob said. There are times when things break again and again where it hasn't been any fun, but the camaraderie of the group makes it all worth it at the end of the day.

I can imagine, i already break enough as it is lol, but thats all part of the fun. Broken wheel bearings assemblies, driveshafts, ring and pinions, transmissions, engines...

Nice videos!