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> Anyone See The Autoweek Article On Autox?, Carmakers are voiding warranties
KeithO
post Jul 9 2004, 02:34 PM
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There was an article in the printed version (I didn't see it on the website) reporting on people having their warranties voided when they go in for service and the dealer finds out that the owner has been autocrossing. The case-in-point was an Evo owner that ran the car in the local SCCA region. When he took the car in for repairs (admittedly significant), they told him that they knew he was autocrossing it (they wouldn't tell him how they knew) and that he was going to have to pay out-of-pocket for the repairs - $7k.

They also discussed the situation with Subaru where you get a year's SCCA membership with the purchase of a WRX so that you can "experience the full potential of your car".

In the grand scheme of things, I suppose this is fair, but it is something to keep in mind.
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post Jul 13 2004, 06:11 PM
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Several things:

First off, Gary, the Nitto 555R II is a DOT street legal tire with a 100AA treadwear rating that comes with street legal tread depth. There is no way on earth that Chevy can get away with voiding your warranty because you run that tire. Heck, the Goodyear Supercar tires that come on the Z06 are of similar specs. There are plenty of people out there that run the 555R II as a DEDICATED street tire (me included). The fact that we may also run that same model of tire at the track is completely irrelevant. I know lots of people that run other (more traditional) street tires at the track (or autox) as well.

Second, my biggest concern with all of this are quotes like this from a Chrysler person:
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“If a guy’s constantly lighting up the tires on the street, that’s not normal wear and tear,” says Chrysler’s Bodene.

If you advertise a car as a performance car, then I expect to be able to drive it like one and still be under warranty. If I bought a Viper, you can be dang sure I would be lighting up the tires every chance I got. Quotes like this make me think that all the auto manufacturer's will be looking very closely at what they can do to get out of there warranties by classyfing anything they can as "abuse". GM already has a bad reputation from this mindset with fiascos like the weak clutches and oil consumption in the LS1/6 f-bodies and Vettes and trying to wiggle out of replacing/fixing them under warranty by claiming they were "abused". It all comes down to the fact that if a company is going to advertise a car as a "performance" car by quoting 0-60 times, showing burnouts in adds, or four wheel drifts through corners, etc, then they need to stand behind that car. Although I'm sure there are disclaimers (in very fine print) on ads like that, there is an implied message from those ads that these cars should be capable to do those things. (Hmm, I wonder if there's any lawyers out there interested in starting a class action suit against all these companies?)

Finally, things like this are one of the reasons that I will probably never buy a car that is under factory warranty again. Not only are most dealer service centers incompetant and can't fix the issue on the first attempt (and sometimes second or third), now they are trying to wiggle out of covering problems at all.
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KeithO   Anyone See The Autoweek Article On Autox?   Jul 9 2004, 02:34 PM
Cal   I guy that autoX's a WRX here chewed up a coup...   Jul 11 2004, 07:46 AM
sgarnett   Personally, I don't see a problem with not cov...   Jul 11 2004, 02:55 PM
shortbus   Yeah, I read it to a EVO3 driver as he changed his...   Jul 12 2004, 06:52 AM
KeithO   QUOTE (shortbus @ Jul 12 2004, 12:52 AM)In th...   Jul 12 2004, 09:51 AM
PF Flyer   ... at this weekends event at Summit Pt, with NASA...   Jul 12 2004, 11:04 AM
slowTA   I'm thinking that the tape over the license pl...   Jul 12 2004, 09:03 PM
Mericet   The person running an EVO in OVR's ESP class i...   Jul 13 2004, 12:26 AM
lateapex   For those who don’t subscribe to Autoweek, you c...   Jul 13 2004, 01:19 AM
Eugenio_SS   soon they'll void warranty on pick-ups saying:...   Jul 13 2004, 03:30 AM
KeithO   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jul 12 2004, 09:30 PM)soo...   Jul 13 2004, 09:59 AM
sgarnett   I've only bought two new cars in my life, but ...   Jul 13 2004, 12:25 PM
GM01SS   Chevrolet is also in this game .........my warran...   Jul 13 2004, 12:41 PM
CMC#5   You know, I feel bad for the car companies. Yep, I...   Jul 13 2004, 03:30 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ Jul 13 2004, 10:30 AM)You know...   Jul 13 2004, 03:49 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Either pay up, or stop showing your cars in ...   Jul 13 2004, 04:56 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Chevrolet is also in this game  ..........   Jul 13 2004, 05:04 PM
CMC #37   QUOTE Either pay up, or stop showing your cars in ...   Jul 13 2004, 05:13 PM
LT4Firehawk   Several things: First off, Gary, the Nitto 555R I...   Jul 13 2004, 06:11 PM
pknowles   QUOTE First off, Gary, the Nitto 555R II is a DOT ...   Jul 13 2004, 06:28 PM
LT4Firehawk   I wouldn't have gone through the trouble for a...   Jul 13 2004, 06:46 PM
sgarnett   I agree on the advertising, but other than that le...   Jul 13 2004, 06:56 PM
Eugenio_SS   imho, if a company decides to void a warranty, the...   Jul 14 2004, 12:42 AM
2000Z-71   I'll probably open up a hole can of worms here...   Jul 14 2004, 03:12 AM
felton316   Damn, that sucks that manufacturer's were deny...   Jul 14 2004, 04:07 AM
CMC#5   Look, I realize that there's got to be a line ...   Jul 14 2004, 03:09 PM
LT4Firehawk   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jul 13 2004, 06:42 PM)imh...   Jul 14 2004, 04:44 PM
bruecksteve   The bottom lines is.... NEVER buy another new car ...   Jul 14 2004, 05:44 PM

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