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newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 12-March 17 From: sarasota FL Member No.: 223,946 ![]() |
Thanks for the add trackbird! Id just like to give a brief description of what my plans are and what I have. so any slight inputs would be appreciated! as I build I will post up
the build and ask for further input. Currently my car is a: 1996 Camaro SS lt1/t56 with full SLP billstien lv2 suspension. : Car has powerdyne 6# supercharger kit installed stock tune with fmu (for now, hope to fix this later) : Also installed is a moser 12 rear to the max with goodies : 28 (or 26 don't fully remember its been a few years since ordered) axles : truetrac locker diff : Richmond 4:11 gears : 6 puc performance clutch Future mods to start : Brake upgrades, start with 98+ spindles and ls1 brakes to start off with and see where I need to go from there. : 3 point subframe connectors ( possible slp or umi?) would like to get the transmission crossmember while I'm there as well. : Tuff stuff lt1 high volume water pump for cooling : strut tower brace ( again SLP or umi? maybe BMR as well.) : Good set of performance street tires ( I don't want to go with R compounds yet. id like to learn on street tires and progress as I learn.) : Stainless brake lines and good brake fluid flush. All in all these few minor upgrades will not be too expensive, yet should be some decent starter upgrades to the car for racing at Sebring international. (this will be my primary track) any suggestions to these upgrades would be appreciated. I don't like to waste money on upgrades, so its hard for me to not just go and spend the $1500 on wilwoods to start. but I will if its THAT much better and worth the money. Thanks in advance. |
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Experienced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,038 Joined: 3-March 10 From: Huntersville, NC Member No.: 9,105 ![]() |
So check out my "1SC" build. I just ordered 18" wheels and CTSV brakes for my dads car. We'll be installing them hopefully next week. I haven't experienced the CTSV brakes yet, but I think they are going to be pretty awesome.
That being said, here's what I honestly think. You need seat time. HPDE's are the most addictive thing and a fast car is the last thing you need. You will be amazed at how little you know about how to get a car around a race track. So I started out in a Toyota MR2 Turbo. That car is pretty awesome/scary. But it taught me a ton about weight transfer and I swear that has helped me today. Then I jumped into my dads 396 Camaro that I had bought from him. I absolutely loved that car, and I still have it today. What I also love loved the fact that I was always fast with the camaro. I was rarely passed by anyone, even in the advanced group. Then one track day there was this chick who had a 1980's VW rabbit in my run group. It was gutted, paint color was rust, and it sounded like shit. Sometime that day I got behind her. It took me no less than 3 laps to get around her. I had 430 hp, she had like 87. To be completely honest, I would do nothing more than remove the blower and install some good pads on your stock brakes and go learn something. Once you get a couple of track days under your belt, then you might want bigger brakes (safety thing) and then start working on the handling. But you really do have a long ways to go before you want more power. This is my car. 3400 lbs with me in it and a junkyard bone stock LT1. https://youtu.be/3rPVKzYGklk But it's honestly your car and your money. Whatever you decide we'll help you make the best of whatever you're going to do. When do you think your first track day will be? |
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 12-March 17 From: sarasota FL Member No.: 223,946 ![]() |
So check out my "1SC" build. I just ordered 18" wheels and CTSV brakes for my dads car. We'll be installing them hopefully next week. I haven't experienced the CTSV brakes yet, but I think they are going to be pretty awesome. That being said, here's what I honestly think. You need seat time. HPDE's are the most addictive thing and a fast car is the last thing you need. You will be amazed at how little you know about how to get a car around a race track. So I started out in a Toyota MR2 Turbo. That car is pretty awesome/scary. But it taught me a ton about weight transfer and I swear that has helped me today. Then I jumped into my dads 396 Camaro that I had bought from him. I absolutely loved that car, and I still have it today. What I also love loved the fact that I was always fast with the camaro. I was rarely passed by anyone, even in the advanced group. Then one track day there was this chick who had a 1980's VW rabbit in my run group. It was gutted, paint color was rust, and it sounded like shit. Sometime that day I got behind her. It took me no less than 3 laps to get around her. I had 430 hp, she had like 87. To be completely honest, I would do nothing more than remove the blower and install some good pads on your stock brakes and go learn something. Once you get a couple of track days under your belt, then you might want bigger brakes (safety thing) and then start working on the handling. But you really do have a long ways to go before you want more power. This is my car. 3400 lbs with me in it and a junkyard bone stock LT1. https://youtu.be/3rPVKzYGklk But it's honestly your car and your money. Whatever you decide we'll help you make the best of whatever you're going to do. When do you think your first track day will be? My first track day won't be for alittle while yet as I have a few things I want to work on, and I'll be going through the car checking the bushings and everything else to make sure the car is safe. Your response is basically what I was going to do! I was going to go out basically stock (didn't think the charger would have such a heat issue though, yet doesn't surprise me much) and get seat time, see how the car acted and upgrade from there one step at a time. I am probably going to install the Ls1 brakes as they came with my spindles when I purchased those (paid 100 bucks) which will be a slight upgrade and would make me feel alittle more confident in the cars braking capabilities. I greatly appreciate your guys info so far, and all options are considered. I'll definitely look into taking the charger off and go from there. Thanks! |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 461 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Orlando, FL Member No.: 34 ![]() |
I am probably going to install the Ls1 brakes as they came with my spindles when I purchased those (paid 100 bucks) which will be a slight upgrade and would make me feel alittle more confident in the cars braking capabilities. Go ahead and install the LS1 brakes since you have them, they are a big upgrade over the LT1's. Get a good set of pads, flush the system with good fluid and go have some fun. I started withe the LT1's, went to LS1's and then a C6 setup with brakes ducts & DTC-70 pads. That setup has been rock solid on Sebring, my home track too, but I didn't need to go there until I had a lot of seat time under my belt. I ultimately spread a couple of sets of LS1 calipers before I made the upgrade. The braking for turn 7 & 10 gets brutal once you start carrying some speed. My LT1 is bone stock with long tube headers, Magnaflow, cold air intake and a tune. Its been good enough for several 2nd place finishes in NASA's TTC class so yes I would like a little more power but it would jump me into a class where I would never be competitive. Focus on the safety stuff, then go out and start learning. As you gain experience it will reveal where the car needs attention. Here's the car on a wide open track running Time Trials with NASA at Sebring. NASA TTC This post has been edited by Jeff94TA: Mar 13 2017, 01:13 PM |
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 12-March 17 From: sarasota FL Member No.: 223,946 ![]() |
I am probably going to install the Ls1 brakes as they came with my spindles when I purchased those (paid 100 bucks) which will be a slight upgrade and would make me feel alittle more confident in the cars braking capabilities. Go ahead and install the LS1 brakes since you have them, they are a big upgrade over the LT1's. Get a good set of pads, flush the system with good fluid and go have some fun. I started withe the LT1's, went to LS1's and then a C6 setup with brakes ducts & DTC-70 pads. That setup has been rock solid on Sebring, my home track too, but I didn't need to go there until I had a lot of seat time under my belt. I ultimately spread a couple of sets of LS1 calipers before I made the upgrade. The braking for turn 7 & 10 gets brutal once you start carrying some speed. My LT1 is bone stock with long tube headers, Magnaflow, cold air intake and a tune. Its been good enough for several 2nd place finishes in NASA's TTC class so yes I would like a little more power but it would jump me into a class where I would never be competitive. Focus on the safety stuff, then go out and start learning. As you gain experience it will reveal where the car needs attention. Here's the car on a wide open track running Time Trials with NASA at Sebring. NASA TTC That video was great! Thanks for that! If you don't mind me asking, what's your spring rate for Sebring? Is it the staple 550/150 like the strano Springs? I was contemplating the strano Springs, or eibach pro kit for later on upgrades. |
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