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post Jul 29 2004, 04:46 PM
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I would suggest that you read all the forum rules or be ready to be roasted.

I would suggest you lurk for awhile before stepping in. It is one of the best tech site out there that I know of, but the sites admin. Does not tolerate violations of there rules.
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Jon A
post Jul 30 2004, 04:55 AM
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Before I offend too many people, let me say the below is not directed at anyone specific in this thread or on this board--but toward the vast majority of F-Body owners who like to turn corners in general.

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Most want to learn, or at least they say they do. While picking up a book or two can work wonders, most are too damn lazy to do it. These days most will learn everything from the internet. Message boards. Most only read a couple specific to their make and model as if it's the only information in existence. I've got news for you, it isn't.

A car is a car. While the techniques used to apply them may differ from car to car, the laws are all the same. In the end, it's four tires on the pavement, nothing more. If you think reading what (many times, clueless) people say about your particular car is all there is to learn about it, you're kidding yourselves.

Frrax.com is wonderful, and I'm so glad it's here. But it has only been here for a few months. Before that, we had the AutoX/RR forums on various F-Body boards. If that's where you spent all your time, yes, you have missed out. While they did get a little better over the last couple of years, overall they still sucked. I did my best to try and make them better, but I was fighting a losing battle. Much too often I got the same frustration with them that the people who started CC.com got with the Mustang boards. I would stop reading and posting for a while. I wouldn't answer the questions I knew the answer to because I had already answered them a million times!!!

Technical discussions regarding suspension design, overall vehicle dynamics, etc? Pathetic (what little there was). No, the signal was drowned out by the noise. Explaining for the bazillionth time that poly/poly LCA's weren't the best idea. Even if they come powdercoated yellow. Where it's "mean" to tell somebody he is wrong. Even if he is.

So, for all of you who won't "lower yourselves" to reading posts with attitude, I'm happy for you. Maybe if you had spent a tenth of the time you spent on F-Body boards lurking on CC.com, things like what a motion ratio is, what a roll center is, what tire efficiency is, how and why weight transfer happens, etc wouldn't be such foreign concepts to you. Maybe you'd start to understand some of those things in that book you stopped reading because it all went over your head when you hear them explained and examples given in numerous discussions. This is basic stuff, kids. In "other words" you might know your butt from a hole in the ground.

Oh, but they're so mean! That's weak. Really. Just an excuse. I've heard it all before. You guys think you're saying anything new? You sound exactly like the crybabies on the Corral have sounded for years after getting a good tech smackdown. Exactly! But you know what? Many of those same people who said those things, really did want to learn. After learning the difference between their asses and a hole in the ground, they see just how wrong they really were and why they were smacked down in the first place. They become members of CC.com. Eventually, some even have something to contribute. Some even become moderators there! The ones who don't? Well, nobody at CC.com misses them. We don't need 1000 new members a day showing up to tell us 2+2=5.

Just a Mustang site? Go ahead and keep thinking that. Your loss.

And for anybody who has a problem with what I said above, I've got two words for you. Yes, you guessed them. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


SUCK IT!


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Curmudgeon   When You Think You Want To Post To Corner-cavers   Jul 29 2004, 04:46 PM
CMC #37   Reminds me of some of the snobby clubs the Beverly...   Jul 29 2004, 05:03 PM
rmackintosh   ....what rule did you violate.....   Jul 29 2004, 05:20 PM
KeithO   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 29 2004, 11:20 AM).....   Jul 29 2004, 05:47 PM
NataSS Inc   He is probably saw my first post there. It looked...   Jul 29 2004, 05:48 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (KeithO @ Jul 29 2004, 11:47 AM)QUOTE (...   Jul 29 2004, 05:50 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (NataSS Inc @ Jul 29 2004, 12:48 PM)He ...   Jul 29 2004, 06:23 PM
prockbp   my impression of parenting from a CornerCarvers.co...   Jul 29 2004, 06:39 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 29 2004, 10:50 AM).....   Jul 29 2004, 06:42 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 29 2004, 12:42 PM)QUOTE (r...   Jul 29 2004, 06:54 PM
trackbird   There are some very sharp minds over there. And, n...   Jul 29 2004, 06:56 PM
Absolut Speed   I just lurk there occasionally, but it does appear...   Jul 29 2004, 06:56 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Absolut Speed @ Jul 29 2004, 01:56 PM)...   Jul 29 2004, 06:59 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jul 29 2004, 12:56 PM)Ther...   Jul 29 2004, 07:07 PM
trackbird   Yea, they are there for their own amusement on occ...   Jul 29 2004, 07:19 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 29 2004, 12:07 PM)wo...   Jul 29 2004, 07:30 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 29 2004, 01:30 PM)QUOTE (r...   Jul 29 2004, 07:44 PM
trackbird   I never meant to imply that it was "every thr...   Jul 29 2004, 08:08 PM
bruecksteve   Sorry, just don't like their elitist attitude....   Jul 29 2004, 08:15 PM
Soma07   I am far from the most technical person but I...   Jul 29 2004, 08:16 PM
trackbird   It's sad when the most popular thread on the b...   Jul 29 2004, 08:31 PM
Eugenio_SS   my impression is that they're a bunch of snobs...   Jul 29 2004, 10:44 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jul 29 2004, 12:39 PM)my imp...   Jul 29 2004, 11:10 PM
Dewey316   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jul 29 2004, 04:44 PM)it...   Jul 30 2004, 04:15 AM
Jon A   Before I offend too many people, let me say the be...   Jul 30 2004, 04:55 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 29 2004, 10:55 PM)Before I...   Jul 30 2004, 06:06 AM
derf'96SS   in 8 months this is the first bullshit thread I...   Jul 30 2004, 07:05 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (derf'96SS @ Jul 30 2004, 01:05 AM)...   Jul 30 2004, 07:14 AM
bruecksteve   WOW!!!! Live on the east coast and...   Jul 30 2004, 09:43 AM
Curmudgeon   Well I agree with Jon CC.com is a great tech site....   Jul 30 2004, 12:29 PM
trackbird   CC.Com has some great tech. They offer a great dep...   Jul 30 2004, 01:41 PM
Jon A   Randy, just a couple points: QUOTE I have seen som...   Jul 30 2004, 07:37 PM
Curmudgeon   I also have hi hopes for this forum. Tech is not ...   Jul 30 2004, 08:26 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 30 2004, 01:37 PM)QUOTE If...   Jul 30 2004, 10:37 PM
beuke23   I feel the love, I feeel the love! (Kev, we ne...   Jul 30 2004, 11:52 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jul 30 2004, 02:43 AM)If...   Jul 31 2004, 12:18 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 30 2004, 06:18 PM)QUOTE I ...   Jul 31 2004, 12:45 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (beuke23 @ Jul 30 2004, 06:52 PM)I feel...   Jul 31 2004, 01:00 AM
beuke23   Hehe, you're the man!   Jul 31 2004, 01:09 AM
Jon A   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 30 2004, 05:45 PM).....   Jul 31 2004, 01:43 AM
94bird   Damn Randy, you always have a computer on and you ...   Jul 31 2004, 04:00 AM
Judd   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 30 2004, 12:06 AM) 4...   Jul 31 2004, 05:17 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 30 2004, 07:43 PM)QUOTE (r...   Jul 31 2004, 06:27 AM
KeithO   QUOTE (94bird @ Jul 30 2004, 10:00 PM)Coolest...   Jul 31 2004, 10:00 AM
mitchntx   In racing, the age old addage is that "there ...   Jul 31 2004, 11:16 AM
ESPCamaro   You should really check the board out before sayi...   Jul 31 2004, 04:36 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Jul 31 2004, 10:36 AM)Here...   Aug 1 2004, 02:06 AM
ESPCamaro   I remember the middle of last month at the Toledo ...   Aug 1 2004, 02:35 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 31 2004, 08:06 PM)QU...   Aug 1 2004, 03:08 AM
rmackintosh   ...well, I think we all know my answer to that...   Aug 1 2004, 03:26 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 31 2004, 09:26 PM).....   Aug 1 2004, 03:35 AM
Glenn98ZM6   WERE IS THAT DAMN POPCORN SMILEY?!?!   Aug 1 2004, 03:46 AM
Jon A   3) Call you guys Assclowns. Because: A) Somebo...   Aug 1 2004, 04:37 AM
94bird   Very good point Mitch. I think the different perso...   Aug 1 2004, 04:40 AM
prockbp   you can justify being an asshole a hundred differe...   Aug 1 2004, 06:40 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jul 31 2004, 09:35 PM)Every...   Aug 1 2004, 06:43 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 31 2004, 10:37 PM)2)...   Aug 1 2004, 06:49 AM
Jon A   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jul 31 2004, 11:40 PM)there ...   Aug 1 2004, 07:09 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Aug 1 2004, 12:49 AM)I a...   Aug 1 2004, 01:39 PM
mitchntx   Jon I do not disagree with your points. We have si...   Aug 1 2004, 01:59 PM
robz71lm7   I'll try and be concise. I like both CC and...   Aug 1 2004, 03:10 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Aug 1 2004, 09:10 AM)What ...   Aug 1 2004, 03:40 PM
ESPCamaro   Rob, I want to get the software to. Maybe we cou...   Aug 1 2004, 04:58 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Aug 1 2004, 09:10 AM)And y...   Aug 1 2004, 05:03 PM
mongoosez   I have been lurking in this thread, laughing as ha...   Aug 2 2004, 05:47 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 1 2004, 07:39 AM)QUOTE ...   Aug 2 2004, 05:59 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 1 2004, 11:40 AM)QUOTE ...   Aug 3 2004, 02:25 AM
CamaroFS34   My two cents.... I've been a member of CC.com...   Aug 6 2004, 05:44 PM

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