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post Jul 29 2004, 04:46 PM
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post Aug 1 2004, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Jul 31 2004, 10:36 AM)
Here is a perfect example. I have discussed with another board mod about the level in which we are willing to help others who we compete with.

I've been working on something that is generally pretty damn simple. BUT, I have put HOUR UPON HOUR of research into it. Maybe it's just me but in this instance, for others to catch up, they need to bust butt, not have the info given away by me.

(I MAY OR MAY NOT GET TO THE FACT THAT I'M NOT THE JERK THIS MAY MAKE ME SEEM LIKE TO SOME)


What do you think????

Lonnie...

I TOTALLY agree with you. If a competitor came up to me and asked my help with fixing something on his car.....all over that.....THAT TRAIT COST ME A CHAMPIONSHIP...but I would still do it. If they came up and asked "...how do you like X......" or "...how does Y work on your car..." I would ALSO answer honestly and accurately about such things.

HOWEVER, if I had come up with a super trick idea that put me ahead of my ITE competitors by a second or two all of a sudden, I CERTAINLY wouldn't GIVE IT AWAY to them. If it was something simple like "Hey Randy, I noticed since you bolted on the Hoosiers, you are 2 seconds a lap faster....what do you think?" I would probably say, "hey, you are right....I think Hoosiers are the ticket and if you can swing 'em, I'ld do it..."

But if I spent time and effort building a better mousetrap be it suspension/engine/etc that was the ticket for me....I would SURELY downplay it and not give it to them...might say "....yeah, I did some motor work in the offseason..." and NOT let him know about the trick heads or supercharger I bolted on....there is a difference between helping your competitors out and giving them the info to beat you. Now since I "gave away" my championship....I am OBVIOUSLY (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif) ...on the more GIVING side of things than I should be, but there is a line of where helping is nothing other than giving away comp secrets that YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO...

...don't worry...you're no jerk.... (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/2thumbs.gif)
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Curmudgeon   When You Think You Want To Post To Corner-cavers   Jul 29 2004, 04:46 PM
CMC #37   Reminds me of some of the snobby clubs the Beverly...   Jul 29 2004, 05:03 PM
rmackintosh   ....what rule did you violate.....   Jul 29 2004, 05:20 PM
KeithO   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 29 2004, 11:20 AM).....   Jul 29 2004, 05:47 PM
NataSS Inc   He is probably saw my first post there. It looked...   Jul 29 2004, 05:48 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (KeithO @ Jul 29 2004, 11:47 AM)QUOTE (...   Jul 29 2004, 05:50 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (NataSS Inc @ Jul 29 2004, 12:48 PM)He ...   Jul 29 2004, 06:23 PM
prockbp   my impression of parenting from a CornerCarvers.co...   Jul 29 2004, 06:39 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 29 2004, 10:50 AM).....   Jul 29 2004, 06:42 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 29 2004, 12:42 PM)QUOTE (r...   Jul 29 2004, 06:54 PM
trackbird   There are some very sharp minds over there. And, n...   Jul 29 2004, 06:56 PM
Absolut Speed   I just lurk there occasionally, but it does appear...   Jul 29 2004, 06:56 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Absolut Speed @ Jul 29 2004, 01:56 PM)...   Jul 29 2004, 06:59 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jul 29 2004, 12:56 PM)Ther...   Jul 29 2004, 07:07 PM
trackbird   Yea, they are there for their own amusement on occ...   Jul 29 2004, 07:19 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 29 2004, 12:07 PM)wo...   Jul 29 2004, 07:30 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 29 2004, 01:30 PM)QUOTE (r...   Jul 29 2004, 07:44 PM
trackbird   I never meant to imply that it was "every thr...   Jul 29 2004, 08:08 PM
bruecksteve   Sorry, just don't like their elitist attitude....   Jul 29 2004, 08:15 PM
Soma07   I am far from the most technical person but I...   Jul 29 2004, 08:16 PM
trackbird   It's sad when the most popular thread on the b...   Jul 29 2004, 08:31 PM
Eugenio_SS   my impression is that they're a bunch of snobs...   Jul 29 2004, 10:44 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jul 29 2004, 12:39 PM)my imp...   Jul 29 2004, 11:10 PM
Dewey316   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jul 29 2004, 04:44 PM)it...   Jul 30 2004, 04:15 AM
Jon A   Before I offend too many people, let me say the be...   Jul 30 2004, 04:55 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 29 2004, 10:55 PM)Before I...   Jul 30 2004, 06:06 AM
derf'96SS   in 8 months this is the first bullshit thread I...   Jul 30 2004, 07:05 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (derf'96SS @ Jul 30 2004, 01:05 AM)...   Jul 30 2004, 07:14 AM
bruecksteve   WOW!!!! Live on the east coast and...   Jul 30 2004, 09:43 AM
Curmudgeon   Well I agree with Jon CC.com is a great tech site....   Jul 30 2004, 12:29 PM
trackbird   CC.Com has some great tech. They offer a great dep...   Jul 30 2004, 01:41 PM
Jon A   Randy, just a couple points: QUOTE I have seen som...   Jul 30 2004, 07:37 PM
Curmudgeon   I also have hi hopes for this forum. Tech is not ...   Jul 30 2004, 08:26 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 30 2004, 01:37 PM)QUOTE If...   Jul 30 2004, 10:37 PM
beuke23   I feel the love, I feeel the love! (Kev, we ne...   Jul 30 2004, 11:52 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Jul 30 2004, 02:43 AM)If...   Jul 31 2004, 12:18 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 30 2004, 06:18 PM)QUOTE I ...   Jul 31 2004, 12:45 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (beuke23 @ Jul 30 2004, 06:52 PM)I feel...   Jul 31 2004, 01:00 AM
beuke23   Hehe, you're the man!   Jul 31 2004, 01:09 AM
Jon A   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 30 2004, 05:45 PM).....   Jul 31 2004, 01:43 AM
94bird   Damn Randy, you always have a computer on and you ...   Jul 31 2004, 04:00 AM
Judd   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 30 2004, 12:06 AM) 4...   Jul 31 2004, 05:17 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 30 2004, 07:43 PM)QUOTE (r...   Jul 31 2004, 06:27 AM
KeithO   QUOTE (94bird @ Jul 30 2004, 10:00 PM)Coolest...   Jul 31 2004, 10:00 AM
mitchntx   In racing, the age old addage is that "there ...   Jul 31 2004, 11:16 AM
ESPCamaro   You should really check the board out before sayi...   Jul 31 2004, 04:36 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Jul 31 2004, 10:36 AM)Here...   Aug 1 2004, 02:06 AM
ESPCamaro   I remember the middle of last month at the Toledo ...   Aug 1 2004, 02:35 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 31 2004, 08:06 PM)QU...   Aug 1 2004, 03:08 AM
rmackintosh   ...well, I think we all know my answer to that...   Aug 1 2004, 03:26 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jul 31 2004, 09:26 PM).....   Aug 1 2004, 03:35 AM
Glenn98ZM6   WERE IS THAT DAMN POPCORN SMILEY?!?!   Aug 1 2004, 03:46 AM
Jon A   3) Call you guys Assclowns. Because: A) Somebo...   Aug 1 2004, 04:37 AM
94bird   Very good point Mitch. I think the different perso...   Aug 1 2004, 04:40 AM
prockbp   you can justify being an asshole a hundred differe...   Aug 1 2004, 06:40 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jul 31 2004, 09:35 PM)Every...   Aug 1 2004, 06:43 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Jon A @ Jul 31 2004, 10:37 PM)2)...   Aug 1 2004, 06:49 AM
Jon A   QUOTE (prockbp @ Jul 31 2004, 11:40 PM)there ...   Aug 1 2004, 07:09 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Aug 1 2004, 12:49 AM)I a...   Aug 1 2004, 01:39 PM
mitchntx   Jon I do not disagree with your points. We have si...   Aug 1 2004, 01:59 PM
robz71lm7   I'll try and be concise. I like both CC and...   Aug 1 2004, 03:10 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Aug 1 2004, 09:10 AM)What ...   Aug 1 2004, 03:40 PM
ESPCamaro   Rob, I want to get the software to. Maybe we cou...   Aug 1 2004, 04:58 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Aug 1 2004, 09:10 AM)And y...   Aug 1 2004, 05:03 PM
mongoosez   I have been lurking in this thread, laughing as ha...   Aug 2 2004, 05:47 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 1 2004, 07:39 AM)QUOTE ...   Aug 2 2004, 05:59 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 1 2004, 11:40 AM)QUOTE ...   Aug 3 2004, 02:25 AM
CamaroFS34   My two cents.... I've been a member of CC.com...   Aug 6 2004, 05:44 PM

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