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mitchntx
post Mar 13 2004, 05:52 PM
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Glenn has done tons of research on this and we are both about to the point of have custom machining done.

Autometer guages have a sending unit that is 1/8" NPT.
An LS1 motor has ports machined in, but are 12x1.5 metric.

Sure there are adaptors, but the wall is so thin the adaptors twist off with MINIMAL torque. And by that, not enough to crush a seal enough to prevent a leak.

Why don't they make a 12x1.5 sender?????

The stock sender ohms out WAY different ... almost 1K ohms lower than the AM.
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post Aug 18 2004, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (ampcory @ Jun 17 2004, 09:31 AM)
You can contact Auto Meters service tech support department for a 12x1.5 adapter that does not break. if using an Auto Meter short sweep electric temp gauge, they will sell you a adapter and sender for $18.49 and free shipping to the US. If using a Auto Meter Cobalt or C2 full sweep, the adapter only is needed with no new sender for $12.00. I have installed several with great results. The replacement sender does not have an extended probe so the adapter can maintain a thicker wall thickness. It is also not in the way of headers.

Where to install the oil temp sender??

I note Cory's suggestion to use the adapter w/short sending unit. It'll solve the problem regarding the use of the water sending unit somewhere. (I place the water sending unit behind the starter motor and it works like a chmap!!) But my problem is where to place the oil temp sender.

This is what I did: I installed the oil temp sending unit in the top hole of the LG adapter plate. The headers are close, very close. They're SLP and actually had to be dented in at the spot where the header tube would've interfered w/the adapter itself. Installation of the adapter plate would've been impossible unless the header tube was dented or the adapter plate was gound down and the hole welded!

During the track event the oil temp sending unit must've become overheated from the close proximity w/the header tube. The oil temp gauge was pegged! A totally useless effort!

It couldn't be the true temp as the water temp was fine.

Where's another place to spot the oil temp sending unit? I'm tempted to just drill away at the oil pan, but I don't like the idea of metal shards ending up in the pan. Something my mother told me about mixing oil and metal filings causes me to hesitate. With my luck, I'd end up drilling thru the oil pick up or something else requiring the removal of the engine! (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

IAE, short of that solution, is there another spot to mount the oil temp probe so its submerged? How about a "T" fitting between the braided hose and the LG Radiator? Anyone have feelings about that despite it's so removed from the engine?


What a headache!

Steve
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mitchntx   What is up with these guage comapnies?   Mar 13 2004, 05:52 PM
John_D.   What gauge is that?   Mar 13 2004, 11:59 PM
mitchntx   Autometer temperature guages   Mar 14 2004, 01:51 AM
steve-d   SW has the same NPT 1/8 thread. They sell adapter...   Mar 14 2004, 02:29 AM
mjf454   Autometer has a adapter that fits in place of the ...   Mar 14 2004, 03:23 PM
rmackintosh   ...two words.... MECHANICAL GUAGES!   Mar 14 2004, 04:02 PM
mitchntx   I know Randy ... Mike, the wall is SOOOO thin, th...   Mar 14 2004, 10:36 PM
mjf454   I think we are talking about two different adapter...   Mar 15 2004, 02:48 PM
Glenn98ZM6   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Mar 14 2004, 10:02 AM).....   Mar 15 2004, 04:54 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE how does that solve the problem of putting N...   Mar 15 2004, 07:00 PM
mitchntx   They would snap before a crush washer was deformed...   Mar 15 2004, 07:49 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE They would snap before a crush washer was de...   Mar 15 2004, 07:59 PM
rmackintosh   OK....got off my lazy butt and looked at one.... ...   Mar 15 2004, 08:05 PM
Glenn98ZM6   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Mar 15 2004, 01:00 PM)QU...   Mar 15 2004, 09:04 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE a M12x1.5 male metric adapter w/ a 1/8...   Mar 15 2004, 09:20 PM
Glenn98ZM6   o.k.- sorry, i wasnt clear. i have had this part i...   Mar 15 2004, 10:34 PM
rmackintosh   OK....I get it now....sometimes I am slow.... Sou...   Mar 15 2004, 11:33 PM
Glenn98ZM6   well thats an o.k. idea, but keep in mind, if that...   Mar 16 2004, 12:54 AM
mjf454   I put my water temp sender in the block, just abov...   Mar 16 2004, 02:16 AM
ampcory   You can contact Auto Meters service tech support d...   Jun 17 2004, 03:31 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (ampcory @ Jun 17 2004, 10:31 AM)You ca...   Jun 17 2004, 04:11 PM
steve-d   QUOTE (ampcory @ Jun 17 2004, 09:31 AM)You ca...   Aug 18 2004, 04:01 PM
mitchntx   I took Cory's advice and called Autometer tech...   Aug 18 2004, 05:03 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 18 2004, 11:03 AM)I too...   Aug 18 2004, 06:00 PM
steve-d   That's strange. I was in contact w/Cory and h...   Aug 18 2004, 06:04 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (steve-d @ Aug 18 2004, 09:01 AM)T...   Aug 18 2004, 06:05 PM
steve-d   The gauge was pegged at the 320* limit. I find it...   Aug 18 2004, 06:14 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (steve-d @ Aug 18 2004, 12:14 PM)A...   Aug 18 2004, 06:23 PM
steve-d   Well, if such temps are normal, shouldn't we b...   Aug 18 2004, 06:47 PM
Jon A   You're supposed to back off before it gets tha...   Aug 18 2004, 07:00 PM
Cal   QUOTE (Glenn98ZM6 @ Mar 15 2004, 10:54 AM)and...   Aug 18 2004, 07:58 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Cal @ Aug 18 2004, 01:58 PM)I first tr...   Aug 18 2004, 08:29 PM
Cal   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 18 2004, 02:29 PM)QUOTE...   Aug 18 2004, 08:41 PM
Cal   The Autometer gauge tracks EFILive from 100 deg F ...   Aug 18 2004, 09:15 PM
steve-d   I was curious how the gauges would read off the tr...   Aug 18 2004, 11:14 PM
mitchntx   The inlet of the radiator's heat exchanger is ...   Aug 19 2004, 12:00 AM
steve-d   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Aug 18 2004, 06:00 PM)The i...   Aug 19 2004, 05:33 PM
mitchntx   Front most ...   Aug 19 2004, 06:27 PM
steve-d   Thanks much. I'll check to verify proper inst...   Aug 19 2004, 08:15 PM

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