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newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 5-October 04 From: Leander (Austin), TX Member No.: 481 |
Hey you all,
I'm looking for information on 4th Gen F-bodies. Specifically, I'm interested in the diff options, gearing differences (rear end and tranny), 1LE vs. base model specs, and any other differences from model year to model year. For example, I know the '93s are speed density, not mass air. Are there any differences there from a performance or maintenance standpoint? The '93s also had a slightly different T-56 tranny, as I understand it. Were '93 and '94 models not available with 3.42 rear gears? Would a 150 mph speedo indicate that the car has 3.42's? No governor? I remember my old roommate's '94 T/A didn't have the "GT" package and as a result had the 115mph speedo, governor, and maybe even 3.23 gears (instead of 3.42s). I know in '96 they went OBD-II with dual cats. They're also rated at an insignificant 10 hp more than the '93-'95 models. Of course, in '98 the LS1 came out with much more power. However, the LT1s are obviously still very compeitive in F-Stock, despite the power deficit, iron block, and smaller front brakes. Any particular reason for this? Or are the right people just not running LS1's? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) So, needless to say, I'm intersted in LT1 vs. LS1 differences, too. But, I'll likely stay with the cheaper candidate, i.e. the LT1. I should point out that I'd mainly be interested in F-Stock, so update/backdate concerns are of less importance. I'm not sure if/when I'd move to ESP. Thanks in advance, Tommy |
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Oct 6 2004, 07:37 PM
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newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 5-October 04 From: Leander (Austin), TX Member No.: 481 |
Hey fellas,
Okay, Jason (Soma07), how do you know me? And how do you know my language? (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Sammy, yes, 'tis me. I'm certainly not decided, but I'm considering a swap from co-driving the Scirocco in FSP to moving back into a pony car in F-Stock. And, yes, this means I'd be selling the (potentially STX or DSP) 325is I was slowly prepping. Of course, nothing is set in stone yet as I'm merely in the data acquisition phase at the moment. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Anyway, on to the questions......... '93 models: I'm still undecided. The gearing is better with the "old" T-56 and 3.23's. Second is effectively 6.9:1, whereas the later models are 6.1:1 which I thought was interesting. However, I'm not fond of a "single year production" vehicle with unique/troublesome concerns. Speed density and eventual mod-ability is a concern. And is batch firing true with this model? I didn't know the front brakes were different, too! LT1 vs. LS1: Smaller steering wheel in the LT1, huh? Interesting. It sure appears that the LT1 has the stronger low end torque and obviously the LS1 has the horsepower. But, I'm not going the LS1 route. The LT1 is certainly cheaper, plus it's still very nationally competitive. A win/win. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And the braking issue with the LS1 is a serious one to consider, IMO. I've experienced and seen that wheelhop. It can be quite violent. Weight: Does the LS1 carry a lack of weight compared to its iron block counterpart? If so, how much? For that matter, what's an FS class F-body weigh in at? Are theZ28's lighter than the Formulas? No T/A's for me, FWIW. Suspension: Any differences among the years of LT1 cars? Obviously a 1LE isn't necessary to win. Any spring rate differences over the years? Sway bar/bushing differences? Non-performance stuff: I know the Optispark can be an issue. And changing plugs/wires requires an act of Congress. But, what about the other "mundane" maintenance issues? T-56's and the rear ends seem to hold up well to anything, but drag slick launches. The LT1 sure seems plenty robust. What about steering racks, A/C compressors, window motors, electrical issues, fit-n-finish after 100k miles, etc.? I need to consider the whole package and potential repair costs and daily nuisances are a real consideration. I don't expect BMW interior quality, but just how bad does it get? FWIW, I'm expecting the suitable candidate to have 100k+ miles. At that point I'm sure it'll be needing lots of maintenance, if not already done. Are bushings a PITA? Diffs: Are all LT1's equipped with some sort of posi? Are they Auburns? I understand the LS1's came with Torsens, but even they have shown to be far from flawless. Do the Auburns wear and need replacement every few years? Suggestions here? Thanks, Tommy |
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Tommy R Seeking F-Body Tech Oct 5 2004, 05:22 PM
y5e06 What?
Tommy are you thinking of moving to an F-b... Oct 5 2004, 05:55 PM
Tommy R Hey Morgan,
Yup, I'm considering a move to an... Oct 5 2004, 06:09 PM
CamaroFS34 Honestly, I prefer the LT1 over the LS1 as well. P... Oct 5 2004, 06:23 PM
y5e06 go here
http://www.1le.net/
also click on manual g... Oct 5 2004, 06:30 PM
bruecksteve I'm tired of being 60 hp short of a LS1. It do... Oct 5 2004, 06:57 PM
y5e06 I didn't really buy it either, but I could swe... Oct 5 2004, 06:59 PM
CamaroFS34 QUOTE (bruecksteve @ Oct 5 2004, 01:57 PM)I d... Oct 5 2004, 07:04 PM
trackbird QUOTE (CamaroFS34 @ Oct 5 2004, 02:04 PM)QUOT... Oct 5 2004, 07:22 PM
NataSS Inc Christ almighty guys, let try and resize those pic... Oct 5 2004, 07:30 PM
mitchntx QUOTE (NataSS Inc @ Oct 5 2004, 01:30 PM)Chri... Oct 5 2004, 07:36 PM
trackbird QUOTE (mitchntx @ Oct 5 2004, 02:36 PM)QUOTE ... Oct 5 2004, 08:13 PM
Soma07 QUOTE (CamaroFS34 @ Oct 5 2004, 12:23 PM)Oh, ... Oct 5 2004, 09:04 PM
Sam Strano Tommy Regan....... I knew it was you. Tommy R, A... Oct 5 2004, 10:57 PM
TxAgZ28 The ladies man is interested in F-bodies!
... Oct 5 2004, 11:25 PM
ESPCamaro IMO the LS1 gains you little on an autox course.
... Oct 5 2004, 11:39 PM
trackbird QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Oct 5 2004, 06:39 PM)IMO t... Oct 5 2004, 11:48 PM
pknowles QUOTE I was trying to explain that the numbers say... Oct 6 2004, 01:41 AM
JKDZ28 i have a 93, and have no desire for an LS1 Oct 6 2004, 08:40 AM
shortbus The LT1's biggest problem is the optispark.
O... Oct 6 2004, 10:27 AM
GaryK My $.02:
I've had a couple LT1 Camaros, ... Oct 6 2004, 10:58 AM
shortbus I regularly compete againt LS1 cars.
In fact I am... Oct 6 2004, 11:38 AM
trackbird QUOTE (shortbus @ Oct 6 2004, 05:27 AM)Otherw... Oct 6 2004, 12:50 PM
LT4Firehawk QUOTE (trackbird @ Oct 5 2004, 05:48 PM)What ... Oct 6 2004, 03:54 PM
shortbus So what LT4Firehawk is saying....
I need an LT4 i... Oct 6 2004, 06:12 PM
LT4Firehawk QUOTE (shortbus @ Oct 6 2004, 12:12 PM)So wha... Oct 6 2004, 06:36 PM
LT4Firehawk QUOTE Suspension: Any differences among the years ... Oct 6 2004, 08:11 PM
y5e06 Batch fire really isn't that much of an issue.... Oct 6 2004, 09:03 PM
y5e06 oh, At the April national tour My car weighed 345... Oct 6 2004, 09:10 PM
ESPCamaro Expect eventual problems with optisparks, diffs, a... Oct 6 2004, 09:11 PM
2manyfbods QUOTE Expect eventual problems with optisparks, ..... Oct 6 2004, 09:42 PM
patred QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Oct 6 2004, 03:11 PM)DO NO... Oct 6 2004, 09:42 PM
robz71lm7 QUOTE (shortbus @ Oct 6 2004, 07:38 AM)I regu... Oct 6 2004, 10:37 PM
Soma07 Tommy,
I recognize you from CC.com I am a frequ... Oct 7 2004, 01:05 AM
CamaroFS34 In terms of what "goes bad" with a highe... Oct 7 2004, 02:59 PM
robz71lm7 Mobil 1 is a decent oil, but it's not the best... Oct 7 2004, 03:54 PM
Sam Strano QUOTE (CamaroFS34 @ Oct 7 2004, 08:59 AM)ps.,... Oct 7 2004, 05:14 PM
rmackintosh QUOTE (sam@stranoparts.com @ Oct 7 2004, 11:1... Oct 7 2004, 06:56 PM
sgarnett Mobil 1 is one of those periodically-debated topic... Oct 7 2004, 07:07 PM
patred QUOTE (sam@stranoparts.com @ Oct 7 2004, 11:1... Oct 7 2004, 07:24 PM
robz71lm7 QUOTE (2manyfbods @ Oct 6 2004, 05:42 PM)By E... Oct 7 2004, 07:32 PM
ESPCamaro QUOTE (sam@stranoparts.com @ Oct 7 2004, 11:1... Oct 8 2004, 12:18 AM
ESPCamaro QUOTE (CamaroFS34 @ Oct 7 2004, 08:59 AM)ps.,... Oct 8 2004, 12:23 AM
Tommy R Okay, so exactly how do the Firebirds and Camaros ... Oct 9 2004, 02:39 AM
pknowles I got a Camaro because I believe the Camaro's ... Oct 9 2004, 03:05 AM
Tommy R Thanks, Phil. You touched on some of my weight co... Oct 9 2004, 03:29 AM
Jabberwocky Is it okay to run without the t-tops? Locally peop... Oct 9 2004, 05:20 AM
pknowles QUOTE Is it okay to run without the t-tops? Locall... Oct 9 2004, 11:40 AM
patred Personally, I wouldn't nit-pick about what opt... Oct 9 2004, 02:13 PM
Tommy R Thanks, Pat. I agree. I guess what I'm wonde... Oct 9 2004, 02:47 PM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS I ran without my t-roofs in Peru & DC at Nat... Oct 9 2004, 03:18 PM
Nick QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Oct 9 ... Oct 9 2004, 08:01 PM
patred QUOTE (Tommy R @ Oct 9 2004, 08:47 AM)Thanks,... Oct 9 2004, 10:43 PM
LT4Firehawk Here's a list of weights I compiled a while ba... Oct 9 2004, 11:18 PM
Soma07 QUOTE (pknowles @ Oct 8 2004, 09:05 PM)I got ... Oct 11 2004, 01:21 AM
bruecksteve QUOTE (sam@stranoparts.com @ Oct 7 2004, 12:1... Oct 11 2004, 01:54 AM
CamaroFS34 QUOTE (pknowles @ Oct 8 2004, 10:05 PM)AC bec... Oct 11 2004, 02:39 PM
pknowles QUOTE Actually, AC was standard starting in '9... Oct 11 2004, 02:47 PM
trackbird I wanted to order a 2002 1LE, but, as I remember, ... Oct 11 2004, 02:59 PM
robz71lm7 I was going to say, I think a lot of these motor f... Oct 11 2004, 07:04 PM
Sam Strano QUOTE (Tommy R @ Oct 8 2004, 08:39 PM)Okay, s... Oct 12 2004, 11:09 PM
Sam Strano On the oil front, mileage and all that doesn't... Oct 12 2004, 11:13 PM
2manyfbods Sam, What oil do you use? Oct 12 2004, 11:49 PM
NataSS Inc Back on the LT1vs LS1.
Here is my dyno on my 99 S... Oct 14 2004, 05:31 PM
robz71lm7 There a bunch of Advanced Induction/Lloyd Elliott ... Oct 14 2004, 06:06 PM
Sam Strano QUOTE (2manyfbods @ Oct 12 2004, 05:49 PM)Sam... Oct 14 2004, 06:30 PM
trackbird Bang for the buck, I'd buy an LT1 car (I bough... Oct 14 2004, 06:33 PM
Tommy R Back on topic from the oil debate.....
I drove t... Oct 21 2004, 03:54 PM
trackbird I wear a 10.5 shoe as well. If I wear tennis shoes... Oct 21 2004, 04:12 PM
y5e06 I don't think I've ever noticed this probl... Oct 21 2004, 05:25 PM
shortbus I have noticed that (foot hitting the underside) a... Oct 21 2004, 05:46 PM
trackbird QUOTE (shortbus @ Oct 21 2004, 12:46 PM)I hav... Oct 21 2004, 05:49 PM
LT4Firehawk I had this problem sometimes with my 95 Formula, b... Oct 21 2004, 05:53 PM
patred QUOTE (Tommy R @ Oct 21 2004, 09:54 AM)It was... Oct 21 2004, 05:56 PM![]() ![]() |
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