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bowtieboy
post Nov 22 2004, 02:34 AM
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Thanks in part to Mitch (BIG part), I now have a set of
LG Super Spring. These things are hard to come by and Mitch led me to the guys post the same day.......and now the deal is done - sitting in the garage.
Can't wait to get them on; needing more spring rate up front.

Thanks again Mitch (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif)
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post Dec 14 2004, 07:27 PM
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The question (which probably should have gone in a new thread) was specifically about autocross, not road racing.

Bumpstops and progressive springs are both intended to increase the total effective spring rate as the suspension approaches the mechanical limit of travel. The idea is to keep the spring softer (relatively speaking) around the normal operating position, but ramp up the rate near the end to avoid the abrupt stop of bottoming out.

The differences are the shape of the rate curve during compression (where and how fast the rate changes) and how much the rate curve changes during rebound due to hysteresis (primarily but not exclusively due to hysteresis in the bumpstop).

That topic (i.e. the relative merits of the differences) has been vigorously debated in other recent threads, so there's no need to repeat it here, and I'm not trying to.

I am installing G2 springs at the front. IF I didn't already have rear spring jacks, and IF I hadn't changed my rear suspension geometry, I would probably still try the G2 rears at a test-and-tune. What is there to lose? I still might try them at a fast smooth lot, though I know my right rear spring would require a shim due to GM's poor build quality (which is why I bought the spring jacks to begin with). If I ever take this car to a road course, I'd certainly take the G2 rears along to try.

Also, the reason I keep bringing up the torque arm in a spring thread is that it affects everything. In other words, it's intended as disclosure - ymmv.

I should also mention that for anyone towing a tire trailer, progressive springs have some off-track benefits. That alone may make it worthwhile to spend the time to figure out how to make it work for autocross.

BTW, my intent is to point out the oft-debated pros and cons (in response to a question), not resolve them. Think of it as a verbose list of topics to search on and draw your own conclusions.
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bowtieboy   Got a set of LG Springs ! !   Nov 22 2004, 02:34 AM
steve-d   What spring rate are we looking at for the F ...   Nov 22 2004, 02:36 AM
TxAgZ28   How much do those lower the car? Are they as low ...   Nov 22 2004, 02:58 AM
bowtieboy   Actually they're about the same ride hight as ...   Nov 22 2004, 04:21 AM
SuperCricket   Good deal man! Sounds like that thing will be...   Nov 22 2004, 07:10 AM
Teutonic Speedracer   Where did you find those spring rate #'s? I...   Nov 22 2004, 12:08 PM
mitchntx   Good job Drew ... glad it all worked out for you ....   Nov 22 2004, 12:49 PM
sgarnett   Yeah, dropping the G2 Supers and keeping the Proki...   Nov 22 2004, 04:07 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (Teutonic Speedracer @ Nov 22 2004, 07:...   Nov 22 2004, 04:16 PM
Teutonic Speedracer   I e-mailed LG today, no better sorce to get the ac...   Nov 23 2004, 01:01 AM
bowtieboy   Kyle- Yeah, I'm being "swayed" into ...   Nov 23 2004, 02:00 AM
mitchntx   I talked with Louis earlier today and he is gonna ...   Nov 23 2004, 02:08 AM
98_1LE   A long time ago one of the Gigliotti's posted ...   Nov 23 2004, 03:00 AM
Matt   Grumble... I've been trying to get a set of th...   Nov 23 2004, 08:41 PM
Teutonic Speedracer   QUOTE (Matt @ Nov 23 2004, 02:41 PM)Grumble.....   Nov 24 2004, 12:26 AM
mitchntx   I was cruising another board and saw the ones Drew...   Nov 24 2004, 01:04 AM
bowtieboy   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Nov 23 2004, 07:04 PM)I was...   Nov 24 2004, 02:13 AM
mitchntx   Drew, your best bet would be to call ...   Nov 24 2004, 04:13 AM
Teutonic Speedracer   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Nov 23 2004, 10:13 PM)Drew,...   Nov 24 2004, 11:26 AM
beuke23   From Louis a loong time ago: frt: 548 lb/sq rear...   Nov 24 2004, 12:11 PM
bowtieboy   At Mitch's suggestion I called. I didn't ...   Nov 26 2004, 03:10 AM
mitchntx   And the answer was?   Nov 26 2004, 06:50 PM
bowtieboy   Wasn't real promissing; it was something to th...   Nov 28 2004, 02:35 AM
sgarnett   As long as each pair of springs appears to be matc...   Nov 28 2004, 12:00 PM
bowtieboy   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Nov 28 2004, 06:00 AM)As lo...   Nov 29 2004, 01:32 AM
Spooner   Guys, How are the LG Super springs for a car whos...   Dec 12 2004, 08:18 PM
sgarnett   Well, the G2 front springs are fairly reasonable r...   Dec 12 2004, 11:39 PM
Spooner   Thanks Sean. I was hoping you'd reply. The oth...   Dec 13 2004, 03:28 PM
sgarnett   The 1LEs are progressive (130~180?) and hard to fi...   Dec 13 2004, 04:21 PM
robz71lm7   Like Sean said some progressive springs can be a p...   Dec 13 2004, 04:40 PM
sgarnett   BTW, it does seeem fairly safe to say that if you ...   Dec 13 2004, 06:06 PM
Sam Strano   The trouble with any serious or semi-serious autoc...   Dec 13 2004, 06:37 PM
z28barnett   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Dec 13 2004, 10:21 AM)The 1...   Dec 13 2004, 07:41 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Dec 12 2004, 06:39 PM)OTOH,...   Dec 13 2004, 10:54 PM
sgarnett   I found a good pic of a car on G2 springs Mitchnt...   Dec 14 2004, 03:44 AM
Spooner   I was thinking the LGs might save a little money. ...   Dec 14 2004, 05:50 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Dec 13 2004, 10:21 AM)The d...   Dec 14 2004, 06:25 PM
sgarnett   The question (which probably should have gone in a...   Dec 14 2004, 07:27 PM

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