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post Jan 13 2005, 12:27 AM
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Are there different grades of metric bolts? I need longer spindle bolts, and I want the right strength bolt.
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QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Jan 13 2005, 06:28 PM)
So should I be afraid that home depot (hillman brand) grade 8 bolts hold in my lap belts?

Thing I would be worried about from Home depot is source of said bolts.

Chinese steel = crap

Also, if you can find them, "rolled" threads are much preferred over your normal cut threads. Grade X is just specifying the ultimate strangth of the bolt.

Rolled threads actually strengthen the threaded region where cut threads will make it weaker since you have sharp points at the bottom. All our threads are rolled at work, we have a thread rolling machine. Needless to say when you have almost 300,000 pounds of force reversing on a piston rod 5 or 5.5 times a second and you're compressing hydrogen you don't want cut threads.

Other things to look at is to ensure there is enough stretch on the bolts. Proper torque and lubricant (anti-seize has a lower nut coefficient than mineral oil and we have two seperate torque tables at work that we provide to our clients) are important to get the right pre-stress in the bolt. There are many boltings that have literally no stretch. You should have at least 2.5 times the diameter free length of the bolt to stretch (not engaged in the tapped hole). This is most important on bolting that sees cyclic loading. The idea is to always have the bolt in tension rather to have it cycle between tension & compression.

Tightening a weaker grade bolt to a higher grade bolt torque specification can yield (damage) the bolt.

Randy, did your bolt break at the first thread?
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mjf454   Metric bolt question   Jan 13 2005, 12:27 AM
sgarnett   Yes, there are different grades: I think Metric P...   Jan 13 2005, 12:44 AM
rmackintosh   oh YES THERE IS...ask me how I know.... G...   Jan 13 2005, 12:48 AM
mjf454   Thank you. The stock one says 10.9 on it, the chea...   Jan 13 2005, 12:48 AM
rmackintosh   8.8 = baaaaaad!   Jan 13 2005, 12:50 AM
mjf454   Wow I type slow. Randy, that looks like hell I al...   Jan 13 2005, 12:52 AM
mitchntx   That must be a heavy hopped lager ale if it shatte...   Jan 13 2005, 01:37 AM
mjf454   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jan 12 2005, 04:48 PM) I...   Jan 13 2005, 02:53 AM
Curmudgeon   Note there is counterfeit hardware out there posin...   Jan 13 2005, 04:27 PM
mjf454   Thanks for the links. I ran all over town today lo...   Jan 13 2005, 11:32 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (Curmudgeon @ Jan 13 2005, 11:27 AM)Not...   Jan 14 2005, 12:28 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Jan 13 2005, 06:28 PM)So s...   Jan 14 2005, 04:09 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jan 13...   Jan 14 2005, 06:34 AM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jan 13...   Jan 14 2005, 02:20 PM
Curmudgeon   Part of the below statement is from: http://www.c...   Jan 14 2005, 06:36 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Jan 13 2005, 10:34 PM)I ...   Jan 14 2005, 06:59 PM
slowTA   Since we're talking about bolts... I saw a web...   Jan 15 2005, 07:38 PM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   Never heard of different kinds of taps. Typicall t...   Jan 16 2005, 01:57 AM
slowTA   Somehow I found the link. They're saying that...   Jan 16 2005, 02:19 AM
94bird   I took a SAE fastener class last year and we got a...   Jan 17 2005, 01:47 AM

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