[FAST LS1]

I have a lot of friends that ride sport bikes. They've talked before about how fast bikes
are around a road course but I tend to wonder just how fast they are in comparison
to cars? How close hypothetically would a stock C5 ZO6 be in comparision to a
Hayabusa or any other current production bike on a road coarse given a skilled
driver/rider? I remember the old article of the Viper vs the then fastest production bike
in one of the car magazines and the Viper won, so I'm guessing it's close but maybe the
bike would win. That's also taking into acount an expert rider on the bike aka someone
that's crazy.

[Judd]

I have had both, have roadraced bikes {no car road racing yet but dieing to try} and I would give the nod to bikes most of the time IF the guy on the bike is good. As it's already been mentiened, it takes alot of skill and guts to to ride a bike fast. Most car enthusiasts are at a higher level than most bike enthusiasts.

I can remember my times at little Talladega on a production Yamaha FZR 400 {TGPR}, they were in the mid to high 1.05 range. I believe my times at Roebling Road were in the middle 1.26s if I remember right {dern near 15 years ago now}. My times at Road Atlanta on the old configuration were in the 1.50 range I think. I was a mediocre racer,,, I actually ran with Aaron Yates in several practices and we were a match at the time. He kept at it and got better,,, I didn't {crushed vertabra have a way of shrinking your balls}.

{QUOTE}Better braking and cornering. Four wide tires beats two skinny ones. [QUOTE]

[QUOTE] i completely disagree...

the deceleration of a motorcyle is much better than a car... a motorcycle will slow down as fast as you can hang on [QUOTE]

Cars are pulling ahead of bike in the braking department, the better sports cars will out brake the better sport bikes for the most part. But,,, were are only talking a few feet 0-60 or 70. Bikes generally have better on-track braking {little or no fad for the most part}.


Steve,,, have you ever played around on Hwy129 North {Blood Mountain}? The reason I ask is because Deals Gap {Tail of the Dragon} is a bit on the tight side for a bike,, much less a car. I think that the riders you were playing with were on the new side {actually the sane side}. Not saying that you can't run with em,,,, just that in that environment, the bkes have an advantage and there might be a reason that you were able to play with them.

I play around on Hwy 129 a bit still, I know that road pretty good. I do not go balls out,,, just a fun pace. A good rider on a good bike will leave me for dead on that road. If I tried to keep up,,,, I would be running alot faster than I should be on public roads. I don't like doing that. Back when I was young and dumb{before I started racing}, a bunch of us used that road and a few others {including Deals Gap} as our own personal Isle of Man TT course. We never once had a car keep up well and we were there nearly every weekend, 3-5 months a year for 2-3 years. Not saying a great driver and car wouldn't have beat us,,,, it's just that bikes have a huge advantage in that environment. I will admit to playing with a few sport bikes, it is fun to give a cocky inexperience rider a fit,,, I've done that several times myself but as I said,,, a good rider will wax my butt but please understand that I'm no great driver either.

You can shell out 10-12 grand on a new bike and IF you are a great rider, you will be able to either beat or hang with a car that costs 5-10 times as much. Once you start modding the bike and the car, the car will ultimately win {the fastest cars will beat the fastest bikes}. Only drawback to the bike is that is has a pretty steep learning curve and not everyone is cutout for bikes. I've seen alot more good car drivers that I've seen great bike riders AND a good bike rider is generally a good car driver, the inverse is usually not always true.

I'm pretty sure Michael's F1 Ferrari will beat Valintino Rossi's Yamaha around most tracks????? Maybe not, but I would be willing to bet on the Ferrari. F1 and Moto GP rarely do the same tracks and if they do,,, there is usually chicanes or whatnot added to the track for one or the other. JMO