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Mar 22 2005, 12:11 AM
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Member ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 52 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Plano, TX Member No.: 666 |
GM pulls plug on '08 line of cars - Product czar Bob Lutz wants to
speed new trucks, SUVs to market faster. http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0.../A01-123402.htm If the Zeta program is dead, that means the new Camaro/GTO is pretty much dead. Boy those guys at GM are idiots.... McCall |
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Mar 23 2005, 12:40 AM
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Insert catch phrase here ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,098 Joined: 23-December 03 From: Michigan Member No.: 20 |
Found this in AutoTech daily recently. It's a little different spin on the previous posts:
GM PUTS THE BRAKES ON REAR-DRIVE ZETA MODELS General Motors Corp. has halted development of up to four rear-wheel-drive midsize vehicles that were due to be launched in North America in three years, according to several media reports. The vehicles—including the next-generation Pontiac GTO—were to be built on GM’s Zeta platform, which is expected to still be used for applications outside North America. The move is said to have been initiated by Vice Chairman Bob Lutz after it was determined the vehicles couldn’t be engineered and produced as cost effectively as competitive rear-drive models such as the hot-selling Chrysler 300 and new Ford Mustang. The decision also allows GM to shift resources to the development of new full-size pickups and SUVs that are due next year. In addition to the GTO, the Zeta platform was expected to be the basis for new Chevrolet and Buick models—possibly reviving the Camaro nameplate and giving life to a production version of last year’s Buick Velite concept car. The current GTO shares a platform with the Holden Monaro and is produced in Australia. An internal GM memo circulated last week said the vehicles have been put on hold until further notice by the current business climate, according to some reports. Although the automaker acknowledges the Zeta platform programs have been stopped, officials insist new approaches are being analyzed for future midsize rear-drive vehicles. Those new models may eventually be shifted to the existing Monaro-GTO platform or the Sigma architecture that carries the Cadillac CTS and STS sedans and SRX crossover vehicles. But this likely would delay introduction by at least a year. ============================== In the same issue they spoke of showing a SS version of the Trailblazer with a 391 HP version of the LS2 in it and 20" wheels. Hehe, the 0-60 was touted as 5.7s. Heck, notice above that one of the reasons GM is killing the Zeta platform is it's not as cost effective of a RWD platform as the LX (Charger, Magnum, 300) for Chrysler and the Mustang for Ford. Now, they're coming out with a SS Trailblazer that SRT already has covered handily with a Grand Cherokee. GM's other SS will be a 250 HP V6 Monte Carlo (FWD). Ugh. I'm with you guys. GM is making some outright stupid marketing decisions. It's in the headlines lately that they will offer "early retirement" to about 28% of their white collar workers asap. It's heartbreaking. |
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McCall New Camaro = D.O.A.?? Mar 22 2005, 12:11 AM
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trackbird Damn, we may be FMRRAX.com soon (F-body Mustang... Mar 22 2005, 04:20 AM
slowTA :stupid: Mar 22 2005, 04:39 AM
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trackbird QUOTE (tom97ss @ Mar 22 2005, 09:14 AM)Nostal... Mar 22 2005, 02:33 PM
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94bird SHELBY MUSTANG NAME IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE
Ford... Mar 25 2005, 02:13 AM
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sgarnett QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 26 2005, 01:05 PM)Hmm, al... Mar 26 2005, 07:38 PM
ESPCamaro QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 23 2005, 10:31 PM)No offe... Mar 26 2005, 09:39 PM
RWB____s Rest assured, we remain committed to developing RW... Mar 26 2005, 09:44 PM
McCall More wonderful GM news today:
GM's decision t... Mar 29 2005, 03:33 AM
94bird Bob Lutz did say that yes, but notice how quickly ... Mar 29 2005, 11:42 PM
prockbp i know how we all feel about the Zeta being cancel... Apr 2 2005, 04:50 AM
94bird You know, not very long ago I would have said the ... Apr 2 2005, 04:56 AM
McCall I think the sales of the Mustang as well as the re... Apr 4 2005, 05:29 PM
pknowles QUOTE QUOTE (pknowles @ Mar 22 2005, 09:55 PM)
S... Apr 4 2005, 06:05 PM
rpoz-29 At least at my local Chevy dealer, EVERYTHING is l... Apr 4 2005, 10:51 PM
McCall Update:
Cadillac may share Sigma architecture; Bui... Apr 5 2005, 07:13 PM
94bird Don't forget, the first car that Lutz will put... Apr 5 2005, 11:53 PM
McCall Fresh news today:
Who Gets the Needle First - Bui... Apr 14 2005, 04:44 AM
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94bird Jason, the 300's chassis is not from Mercedes.... Apr 22 2005, 03:04 AM
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