[McCall]

GM pulls plug on '08 line of cars - Product czar Bob Lutz wants to
speed new trucks, SUVs to market faster.
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0.../A01-123402.htm

If the Zeta program is dead, that means the new Camaro/GTO is pretty much dead. Boy those guys at GM are idiots....

McCall

[AllZWay]

I'm not impressed with the current crop of Ford cars anymore than GM or Chrysler. If I ever buy a new car, it will be Honda or Toyota. .The wife's Toyota 4 Runner is amazing. The way she treats that thing - no problems whatsoever. I can't believe how well it is built and the way things stay together.

After all the problems my wife has had with Honda products.... I would be very leary about buying another one.

92' Accord - Busted block at 23K

'96 Legend - WAY TOO MANY PROBLEMS to list all, but primary - axles, rear main seals, transmission, interior falling off, radio, antenna.....etc... all before 63K

'98 Accord - not bad, minor interior crap pieces falling off.

'2000 Passport - BIGGEST POS ON 4 WHEELS. Spent months at a time in the shop for numerous problems....computer, fuel injection, brakes, transmission primary problems al before 24K.

Now she has a 2004 Tahoe and so far so good with about 18K on it.

A guy I work with has gotten lots of miles from his Toyota trucks, but all had to have head gaskets replaced at about 80K, but then chug on to 200k pretty easily.