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McCall
post Mar 22 2005, 12:11 AM
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GM pulls plug on '08 line of cars - Product czar Bob Lutz wants to
speed new trucks, SUVs to market faster.
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0.../A01-123402.htm

If the Zeta program is dead, that means the new Camaro/GTO is pretty much dead. Boy those guys at GM are idiots....

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post Mar 26 2005, 04:13 AM
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GM is obviously going through some very bad times right now. I heard a few days ago GM was saying publicly they were going to increase incentives even more on vehicles to increase sales. Ugh.

Looks like Ford is selling Mustangs like hotcakes and DCX is selling just about anything with a Hemi in it faster than they can build the engines. I can't think of a single hot property from GM right now.

I do believe things will turn around for GM though. I'm getting a much stronger feeling that bankruptcy will be part of their way back.
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McCall   New Camaro = D.O.A.??   Mar 22 2005, 12:11 AM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (McCall @ Mar 21 2005, 06:11 PM)Boy tho...   Mar 22 2005, 12:27 AM
axoid   On fastlane.gmblogs.com Bob posted a follow up to ...   Mar 22 2005, 01:02 AM
rushman   QUOTE perhaps even a few with a trace of nostalgia...   Mar 22 2005, 01:20 AM
TOO Z MAXX   "with a little bit of nostalga baked in...   Mar 22 2005, 01:26 AM
Absolut Speed   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Mar 21 2005, 06:27 PM)What...   Mar 22 2005, 02:34 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Mar 21 2005, 06:27 PM)QUOT...   Mar 22 2005, 02:58 AM
Teutonic Speedracer   Why can't GM start making cars we want? They ...   Mar 22 2005, 03:07 AM
trackbird   Damn, we may be FMRRAX.com soon (F-body Mustang...   Mar 22 2005, 04:20 AM
slowTA   :stupid:   Mar 22 2005, 04:39 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (axoid @ Mar 21 2005, 08:02 PM)On fastl...   Mar 22 2005, 12:17 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Mar 22 2005, 07:17 AM)We di...   Mar 22 2005, 01:17 PM
tom97ss   Nostalgia = Underpowered Cars of the mid to late ...   Mar 22 2005, 02:14 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (tom97ss @ Mar 22 2005, 09:14 AM)Nostal...   Mar 22 2005, 02:33 PM
AllZWay   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Mar 21 2005, 08:58 PM)QU...   Mar 22 2005, 02:51 PM
y5e06   ah, just face it. We'll all have to become Fo...   Mar 22 2005, 02:58 PM
2000Z-71   Why do I have a feeling the nostalgia will be a re...   Mar 22 2005, 05:07 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Mar 22 2005, 12:07 PM)...   Mar 22 2005, 05:18 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (2000Z-71 @ Mar 22 2005, 12:07 PM)...   Mar 22 2005, 08:35 PM
bobbylee   I've bought my last GM product...That's wh...   Mar 22 2005, 08:46 PM
slowTA   QUOTE (y5e06 @ Mar 22 2005, 09:58 AM)ah, just...   Mar 22 2005, 09:59 PM
JKnight   QUOTE GM does not make anything I am interested in...   Mar 22 2005, 10:12 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (y5e06 @ Mar 22 2005, 08:58 AM)ah, just...   Mar 22 2005, 11:19 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (JKnight @ Mar 22 2005, 04:12 PM)QUOTE ...   Mar 22 2005, 11:22 PM
94bird   Found this in AutoTech daily recently. It's a ...   Mar 23 2005, 12:40 AM
pknowles   SS Monte Carlo, haven't we learned that hotrod...   Mar 23 2005, 01:55 AM
CMC #37   QUOTE QUOTE (y5e06 @ Mar 22 2005, 08:58 AM) ah, ju...   Mar 23 2005, 01:59 AM
Absolut Speed   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Mar 22 2005, 05:19 PM).....   Mar 23 2005, 02:12 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Absolut Speed @ Mar 22 2005, 08:12 PM)...   Mar 23 2005, 02:55 AM
bobbylee   QUOTE nah...I've owned a few Fords.....all wer...   Mar 23 2005, 04:35 AM
2000Z-71   QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 22 2005, 06:40 PM)The mov...   Mar 23 2005, 06:25 AM
sgarnett   Between my wife and I, we currently own a 2001 Che...   Mar 23 2005, 12:56 PM
AllZWay   QUOTE (bobbylee @ Mar 22 2005, 10:35 PM)I...   Mar 23 2005, 02:37 PM
94bird   QUOTE (pknowles @ Mar 22 2005, 09:55 PM)SS Mo...   Mar 24 2005, 12:18 AM
CMC #37   Omni GLH (goes like hell), Caroll Shelby car. Fun ...   Mar 24 2005, 01:35 AM
00 Trans Ram   Well, here's the short list of the next cars t...   Mar 24 2005, 02:59 AM
94bird   No offense to you ESPers out there, but the Evo is...   Mar 24 2005, 04:31 AM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 23 2005, 11:31 PM)No offe...   Mar 24 2005, 04:59 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Mar 23 2005, 11:59 PM)QUOT...   Mar 24 2005, 02:32 PM
mjf454   I've said all along that GM has no interest in...   Mar 24 2005, 04:05 PM
pknowles   QUOTE Out here 91 octane is $2.50 a gallon, a...   Mar 24 2005, 04:13 PM
trackbird   Phil, I'm with you. I drive 13 miles to work (...   Mar 24 2005, 04:50 PM
94bird   SHELBY MUSTANG NAME IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE Ford...   Mar 25 2005, 02:13 AM
McCall   QUOTE (axoid @ Mar 21 2005, 07:02 PM)On fastl...   Mar 26 2005, 12:20 AM
94bird   GM is obviously going through some very bad times ...   Mar 26 2005, 04:13 AM
McCall   QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 25 2005, 10:13 PM)GM is o...   Mar 26 2005, 05:58 PM
94bird   Hmm, all they're doing is lowering their stick...   Mar 26 2005, 06:05 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 26 2005, 01:05 PM)Hmm, al...   Mar 26 2005, 07:38 PM
ESPCamaro   QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 23 2005, 10:31 PM)No offe...   Mar 26 2005, 09:39 PM
RWB____s   Rest assured, we remain committed to developing RW...   Mar 26 2005, 09:44 PM
McCall   More wonderful GM news today: GM's decision t...   Mar 29 2005, 03:33 AM
94bird   Bob Lutz did say that yes, but notice how quickly ...   Mar 29 2005, 11:42 PM
prockbp   i know how we all feel about the Zeta being cancel...   Apr 2 2005, 04:50 AM
94bird   You know, not very long ago I would have said the ...   Apr 2 2005, 04:56 AM
McCall   I think the sales of the Mustang as well as the re...   Apr 4 2005, 05:29 PM
pknowles   QUOTE QUOTE (pknowles @ Mar 22 2005, 09:55 PM) S...   Apr 4 2005, 06:05 PM
rpoz-29   At least at my local Chevy dealer, EVERYTHING is l...   Apr 4 2005, 10:51 PM
McCall   Update: Cadillac may share Sigma architecture; Bui...   Apr 5 2005, 07:13 PM
94bird   Don't forget, the first car that Lutz will put...   Apr 5 2005, 11:53 PM
McCall   Fresh news today: Who Gets the Needle First - Bui...   Apr 14 2005, 04:44 AM
McCall   Zeta light? GM looking for ways to build high-perf...   Apr 19 2005, 03:35 AM
cdb95z28   QUOTE Lutz: U.S. engineers need more hands-on trai...   Apr 21 2005, 01:56 AM
94bird   Jason, the 300's chassis is not from Mercedes....   Apr 22 2005, 03:04 AM
1LEThumper   It has nothing to do with hands on, health costs, ...   Apr 22 2005, 03:17 AM
94bird   Tony, I wouldn't worry too much about competin...   Apr 22 2005, 03:25 AM
1LEThumper   Well I was just using that as an example....the Mi...   Apr 22 2005, 03:30 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (1LEThumper @ Apr 21 2005, 21:17)It has...   Apr 22 2005, 05:46 AM
McCall   QUOTE (rmackintosh @ Apr 21 2005, 23:46)...so...   Apr 22 2005, 10:50 PM
00 Trans Ram   Well, I must honestly admit that I really could ca...   Apr 25 2005, 02:08 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (00 Trans Ram @ Apr 25 2005, 08:08)I si...   Apr 25 2005, 07:47 PM

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