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KeithO
post Mar 27 2005, 11:49 AM
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My fuel gauge has always been wrong on my 1995 Firebird. When the gauge comes off full, I know that I need to get gas fairly soon for street driving and immediately for track driving.

Yesterday through the use of a scan tool, I also learned that my water temperature reads way too low while also learning that GM has two water temperature senors in the car - one for the ECM and one for the fool behind the wheel. The ECM sensor seems correct and the in-dash water temperature gauge is wrong.

Should I be treating these two problems as separate or is it possible that these are related?
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Jon A
post Mar 29 2005, 08:29 PM
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It's possible when you observed that difference, the water coming from the radiator hadn't been through the engine yet. It will vary depending upon a lot of variables.

I've found when it's settled into a nice steady state, lightly cruising so the engine isn't producing much power at all, the gauge only reads a couple of degrees below the PCM. When you put your foot into it very long, the difference gets much bigger.

I was actually planning to move my sensor for the gauge to the same spot as the PCM a while back as I think the coolant temp after the engine is the more important one to monitor. I just never got around to it. I'm glad you reminded me. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Don't get me wrong, your gauge certainly may be off. I'm just trying to point out it really is reading a different temperature, so it might not be. You could always swap the sensor location and see how it works. An aftermarket gauge would be nice, but if you're on a budget it's nice to know something really is broken before you replace it.

Let me do some searching of my notes...there's a Corvette sensor that fits where the PCM sensor is except it has a wire for the PCM and one for the gauge. I forgot all about that mod, I guess I got too busy last year. I just kept in the back of my mind that whatever the gauge said on the track was probably 10-20 degrees or so lower than reality.
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KeithO   Troubleshooting Stock Dash Gauges   Mar 27 2005, 11:49 AM
WS6WRX   Separate issues. Our temp guages are notoriously i...   Mar 29 2005, 03:45 PM
robz71lm7   QUOTE (WS6WRX @ Mar 29 2005, 11:45 AM) Se...   Apr 8 2006, 12:34 PM
KeithO   Thanks for the feedback. I think I will simply ge...   Mar 29 2005, 04:43 PM
y5e06   Sounds like we had similar problems. Right after ...   Mar 29 2005, 05:16 PM
Jon A   The guage in your dash reads coolant right as it c...   Mar 29 2005, 07:07 PM
KeithO   QUOTE (Jon A @ Mar 29 2005, 01:07 PM)The guag...   Mar 29 2005, 07:41 PM
Jon A   It's possible when you observed that differenc...   Mar 29 2005, 08:29 PM
Jon A   QUOTE (Jon A @ Mar 29 2005, 01:29 PM) I j...   Apr 8 2006, 07:52 AM
mitchntx   Would a '96 guage cluster work in it? If so, ...   Mar 30 2005, 03:28 AM
KeithO   I don't know, mitch. For now hang onto it. I...   Mar 30 2005, 11:10 AM
sgarnett   The fuel guage in my 96 was very non-linear. 3/4 t...   Apr 8 2006, 01:29 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (sgarnett @ Apr 8 2006, 08:29 AM) T...   Apr 12 2006, 02:11 AM
slowTA   I think the main problem with the fuel guage is th...   Apr 8 2006, 01:45 PM
CMC#5   I think you're exactly right Chris. My street ...   Apr 11 2006, 02:58 PM

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