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 New Camaro = D.O.A.?? |
 Mar 22 2005, 12:11 AM
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Member  Group: Advanced Members Posts: 52 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Plano, TX Member No.: 666  |
GM pulls plug on '08 line of cars - Product czar Bob Lutz wants to
speed new trucks, SUVs to market faster. http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0.../A01-123402.htm If the Zeta program is dead, that means the new Camaro/GTO is pretty much dead. Boy those guys at GM are idiots.... McCall |
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Apr 22 2005, 03:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 366 Joined: 27-December 03 From: TEXAS Member No.: 54 |
It has nothing to do with hands on, health costs, materials...or any of the other bullsh!t.
It has to do with GM doesn't make anything other than pickup trucks and corvettes. What the hell else does the company make? We have a ton of $50k plus caddies that have just STARTED to get attention. We have the Corvette that people still associate with Chevy and think that its cheap no matter how fast it goes. Then we have 1000000000 different pickups, SUVs and small SUVs. What do they make for anyone in their 20s and 30s thats fun to drive? You either buy a Corvette or a pickup, and not everyone right out of high school or college can go get a corvette. So then what? The GTO is almost a joke, sure isn't as good as everyone orginally wrote it up to be. What else is there? They have nothing to compete with the Mustang, nothing to compete with the Miatas ( I know the Solestis..but it isn't out yet), and what about just every day transportation? Hell what about against the 300C? But by god you can get FWD, AWD, RWD, big, small, medium, convertible, 2 door, 4 door, 5 door truck. Fact of the matter is...GM just didn't think about its vechical line up...they just kept building more and newer SUVs and gave every division a copy of that. What would be nice would be a fun sporty 2 door family coupe oh and RWD wouldn't that be a nice change of pace. Ok I'm done now. |
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McCall New Camaro = D.O.A.?? Mar 22 2005, 12:11 AM
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Ford... Mar 25 2005, 02:13 AM McCall QUOTE (axoid @ Mar 21 2005, 07:02 PM)On fastl... Mar 26 2005, 12:20 AM 94bird GM is obviously going through some very bad times ... Mar 26 2005, 04:13 AM McCall QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 25 2005, 10:13 PM)GM is o... Mar 26 2005, 05:58 PM 94bird Hmm, all they're doing is lowering their stick... Mar 26 2005, 06:05 PM sgarnett QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 26 2005, 01:05 PM)Hmm, al... Mar 26 2005, 07:38 PM ESPCamaro QUOTE (94bird @ Mar 23 2005, 10:31 PM)No offe... Mar 26 2005, 09:39 PM RWB____s Rest assured, we remain committed to developing RW... Mar 26 2005, 09:44 PM McCall More wonderful GM news today:
GM's decision t... Mar 29 2005, 03:33 AM 94bird Bob Lutz did say that yes, but notice how quickly ... Mar 29 2005, 11:42 PM prockbp i know how we all feel about the Zeta being cancel... Apr 2 2005, 04:50 AM 94bird You know, not very long ago I would have said the ... Apr 2 2005, 04:56 AM McCall I think the sales of the Mustang as well as the re... Apr 4 2005, 05:29 PM pknowles QUOTE QUOTE (pknowles @ Mar 22 2005, 09:55 PM)
S... Apr 4 2005, 06:05 PM rpoz-29 At least at my local Chevy dealer, EVERYTHING is l... Apr 4 2005, 10:51 PM McCall Update:
Cadillac may share Sigma architecture; Bui... Apr 5 2005, 07:13 PM 94bird Don't forget, the first car that Lutz will put... Apr 5 2005, 11:53 PM McCall Fresh news today:
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