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> AutoX seems to bring less and less fun-factor 2 me, is it just me ???
Crazy Canuck
post Jun 6 2005, 04:43 PM
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I don't know if it's the right section,
but I thought I would share how I'm feeling.

Basically, I love AutoX and I find it a great way to enjoy the car, and so forth.
I'm also OK at it and kick ass on some fast cars in my category as well.

There are a few things that makes me not enjoy it as much.
1. it's very political... full of BS
2. seat time is very minimal
3. can't be much more competitive unless I trailor another set of wheels w/ Hoosier dady.
4. I'd like to use more than just 1-2 gear.

I'm just thinking on focusing more on driving and seat time.
Am I the only one that thinks this or going through this kind of feelings ?
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Crazy Canuck
post Jun 6 2005, 08:16 PM
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well... we get 4 runs... and we are usually around 100 ppl.
It's a very competitive niche and most of the ppl from here that goes to Topeka bring a trophee... so that should put some perspective on the competition level.
I like competition, but healthy competition... I don't mind not being on the top, as long as everyone is having fun.
I'm getting fed up of the bitching for every single little details, and some people take it WAY too seriously as if life depended on it.
Might be just me... but I rather associate myself with different group... but I like the people.
Having said that, for competitiveness, there is no way I can get better without some grip, like Hoosiers.
I still managed to be within 2 secs of the fastest guy in SM, while he had Hoosiers... and I was closer to the other guys on Hoosiers, but not faster.
Anyways... I've never been there to win championships, but more for the learning/fun factor of it.
and that is fading away.

Yesterday evening, it really struck me when a guy was talking about his 15 years of Solo2 experience, and bla-bla-bla... and then I was trying to put some perspective on things and where I see myself in this.
It just didn't fit.

As for lapping time, RoadRacing, it might be a bit more $... but I think it'll also be more rewarding.
Once has much better chances on improving by passing more times @ a given place and have WAY more lee-way (sp?) for trying different lines to see how one does.
In AutoX... well 4 runs aren't enough to try things out... my approach is get a clean run as fast as possible and hope you don't screw up from remembering the course.

I feel that I did learn a lot, don't get me wrong... things happen pretty fast, and I've been able to adapt myself well.
fwiw, yesterday, I was faster than all the 3 S2000 in place in race rubber, and 1 of the guys is really good... I used to not be able to be faster awhile back.

There was 1 z28 in place, who had a good line, but was 4-5 seconds slower than me on a 50 seconds track.
I know I have a bit more power and better brakes and suspension, but still... I'm not a newbie... and the learning/fun factor doesn't seem to be there anymore.

As for the RR/OT approach... I think I'll be OK with the A032-H tires... which once warm are pretty good... but then again, it will allow me to experiment way more stuff than I can now, and be able to learn even more.
Even in that sense, I'm not a newbie, since I done several schools and lapping days, and solo1 guys are asking me to have fun... the only thing I don't push much is when walls are involved... call me a chicken shit !
imho, it'll allow me to gather way much more data, and know where to improve the driver, and maybe the car.
As for the pads... I'll probably start by getting more aggressive than the present Portterfield RS4 pads I have... maybe the Ferrodo 2500... but I'll do some events like this to see exactly what I want.

anyways... sorry for the blabering... keep the comments/ideas coming... greatly appreciated.
And I'm happy to see I'm not alone in the boat.
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Eugenio_SS   AutoX seems to bring less and less fun-factor 2 me   Jun 6 2005, 04:43 PM
KeithO   ...that's how I ended up where I am. First au...   Jun 6 2005, 04:51 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jun 6 2005, 11:43)There a...   Jun 6 2005, 04:58 PM
Sam Strano   If you aren't a very competitive person, or la...   Jun 6 2005, 05:37 PM
98_1LE   I got bored with it. I like the people a whole lot...   Jun 6 2005, 05:44 PM
robz71lm7   Eugenio, that's exactly how I've been feel...   Jun 6 2005, 06:01 PM
rmackintosh   ...your feelings are NOT uncommon...I know a TON o...   Jun 6 2005, 06:04 PM
Absolut Speed   I certainly couldn't imagine running regularly...   Jun 6 2005, 07:17 PM
mitchntx   My AXing career didn't last but about 12 month...   Jun 6 2005, 07:27 PM
Eugenio_SS   well... we get 4 runs... and we are usually around...   Jun 6 2005, 08:16 PM
Eugenio_SS   ironically, I tend to enjoy more helping people an...   Jun 6 2005, 08:49 PM
sgarnett   The hassle factor makes a big difference to me. My...   Jun 6 2005, 09:16 PM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   I seriously thought about quitting last year (Auto...   Jun 6 2005, 09:25 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Jun 6 2005, 13:01)I'm ...   Jun 6 2005, 09:29 PM
sgarnett   I was sort of transitioning to driving the truck m...   Jun 6 2005, 09:37 PM
patred   I started autocrossing in '97 and did my first...   Jun 6 2005, 11:02 PM
mitchntx   I hear ... fear ... you Pat. The damage factor ha...   Jun 6 2005, 11:49 PM
98_1LE   So how is the paint swapping in CMC going so far? ...   Jun 6 2005, 11:59 PM
robz71lm7   Rubbin' is racin' Wish I could afford...   Jun 7 2005, 12:24 AM
ESPCamaro   I 'might' consider moving up. But only if ...   Jun 7 2005, 12:44 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 6 2005, 17:49)The damag...   Jun 7 2005, 01:15 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Jun 6 2005, 18:44)Honestly...   Jun 7 2005, 01:20 AM
sgarnett   I keep daydreamin' about getting a FF1600 for ...   Jun 7 2005, 01:57 AM
Eugenio_SS   it's not about the competition... I won't ...   Jun 7 2005, 03:43 AM
Eugenio_SS   to get more excitement, maybe I should try the Kev...   Jun 7 2005, 03:45 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jun 6 2005, 23:45)to get ...   Jun 7 2005, 03:52 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jun 6 2005, 22:45)to get ...   Jun 7 2005, 04:52 AM
TOO Z MAXX   I guess I am lucky as far as auto x goes. I can a...   Jun 7 2005, 06:54 AM
patred   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 6 2005, 17:49)I hear .....   Jun 7 2005, 10:16 AM
KeithO   Pat, I can't comment on your specific situatio...   Jun 7 2005, 10:33 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (98_1LE @ Jun 6 2005, 17:59)So how is t...   Jun 7 2005, 11:35 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 6 2005, 23:52)QUOTE (E...   Jun 7 2005, 11:59 AM
Bald54   I started autocrossing in 1978 and was instantly h...   Jun 7 2005, 02:40 PM
patred   QUOTE (KeithO @ Jun 7 2005, 04:33)Pat, I can...   Jun 7 2005, 04:23 PM
rpoz-29   I started in 1975, and ran all over VA, and DC. Ma...   Jun 8 2005, 10:27 PM
98_1LE   I had a Big Wheel in 1977   Jun 8 2005, 10:35 PM
bruecksteve   I started in 1973 (yea.. really old), ran the Nati...   Jun 8 2005, 11:01 PM
Eugenio_SS   damm... I started breathing in 1975... when you gu...   Jun 9 2005, 02:57 AM
rpoz-29   Our events have 4 runs, and our work schedule is o...   Jun 9 2005, 06:19 AM
robz71lm7   Rpo, that's exactly how our work schedule is s...   Jun 9 2005, 11:37 AM
pimpmaro   QUOTE (98_1LE @ Jun 8 2005, 16:35)I had a Big...   Jun 9 2005, 12:22 PM
bruecksteve   We do worker changes on the fly with 6 run groups.   Jun 9 2005, 12:24 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (pimpmaro @ Jun 9 2005, 08:22)QUOTE (98...   Jun 9 2005, 01:27 PM
LT4Firehawk   The first "speed" events I ever got invo...   Jun 9 2005, 01:48 PM
Houston   I'm new to this board and I have only autocros...   Jun 9 2005, 06:13 PM
trackbird   Welcome Houston . Pimpmaro was a drag racer unti...   Jun 9 2005, 08:11 PM
rpoz-29   Hey Houston, come on up and run with VMSC sometime...   Jun 10 2005, 12:57 AM
jensend   Autocrossed for about 3 seasons with the NNJR regi...   Jun 10 2005, 01:19 PM
RedHardSupra   I went to an autocross event once. I got ~130 SEC...   Jun 10 2005, 01:44 PM
Bald54   I've also been responsible for getting a lot ...   Jun 10 2005, 03:04 PM
jensend   Steve- I agree that autox can teach younger driver...   Jun 10 2005, 09:54 PM
pimpmaro   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 9 2005, 14:11)Welcome ...   Jun 11 2005, 06:47 AM
DanKeen   QUOTE (pimpmaro @ Jun 9 2005, 04:22)QUOTE (98...   Jun 11 2005, 06:30 PM
DanKeen   And to add something useful to this thread... As ...   Jun 11 2005, 06:36 PM

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