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Crazy Canuck
post Jun 6 2005, 04:43 PM
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I don't know if it's the right section,
but I thought I would share how I'm feeling.

Basically, I love AutoX and I find it a great way to enjoy the car, and so forth.
I'm also OK at it and kick ass on some fast cars in my category as well.

There are a few things that makes me not enjoy it as much.
1. it's very political... full of BS
2. seat time is very minimal
3. can't be much more competitive unless I trailor another set of wheels w/ Hoosier dady.
4. I'd like to use more than just 1-2 gear.

I'm just thinking on focusing more on driving and seat time.
Am I the only one that thinks this or going through this kind of feelings ?
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post Jun 9 2005, 06:13 PM
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I'm new to this board and I have only autocrossed for two years, but I have a little different perspective.
I decided at age 49 that I wanted to autocross. Drag racing is fun and I still do it, but going straight has it's limits. Breaking stuff happens a lot more drag racing too.
Sam really helped me set up my car and his advice has been great. I went to a couple of Evolution schools and that was a good start.
My first autocross was a disaster! It was on a relatively small piece of concrete and the course was confusing for a novice. It had double backs and looked like a sea of cones. I DNF'd every run and didn't know what I had done wrong. No one helped me and I almost quit. I hung in and got to know some people who helped me. I started to get better.
The next year, I ran with a small SCCA club near my home for a year in ESP and actually won the season long ESP championship. Honestly, there wasn't much competition. I ran a couple of events with the Tarheel Sports Car Club and got my @$$ kicked badly in ESP. But, the people were great and very helpful. I went to a couple of club novice schools and got better.
A couple of mods make my car illegal in ESP, so I'm running SM this year with the Tarheel club. I know that I wouldn't be competitive in some clubs or at a national event. But, I've won the first three events (mainly because I have a better car! Thanks Sam) and would be competitive in ESP.
Tarheel has some great sites and the events are very well run. They have just raised the entry number to 130 and we still usually get 5 runs in. This weekend we have a two day event at an old airport with old, but grippy concrete. I love to make 60 to 70 second runs with top speeds of 60 to 65 mph! Sure, we have some smaller sites that Miata guys love, but that's OK.
I think how well the events are run and how laid back the members are makes a huge difference in how much fun it is.
I get teased some about having a loud, redneck Camaro, but it is all in fun. I also have to change my exhaust tips to one's filled with steel wool to get me below 100 dbs.
I do one thing that has made autocrossing very fulfilling, but I know most won't be comfortable doing this. I always have a younger guy as a co-driver, who pays for half of the race tires. Last year I picked a guy who I thought could drive and by the end of the year, he was beating me. Youth has it's advantages! This year he and his dad are autocrossing his WS6. I have a new co-driver this year.
My daily driver is an 87 BMW 325e and yes it is really slow - 121 HP. My 22 year old daughter drives it and we try to get a novice to co-drive with her. They never win in STS, but it is a great way to learn. The only mods are Koni Sports, springs and sway bars.
We travel together, stay in hotels together when necessary and help each other a lot. It is great to help younger people get into the sport. I love watching my co driver get better in my SS and pick up a lot watching him on the course.
I've brought 5 young people into autocrossing and plan to bring 2 more in every year. I'm not 100% altruistic. I like the help unloading the car, unhooking the tire trailer and changing the tires. I like getting into the car with warmed up tires when I go second. The Tarheel club lets us ride with each other. I like getting a look at the track at speed too. My young teamates like a coach in the car.
Maybe I will get tired of autocrossing too eventually. But, I think I will always enjoy helping others get into the sport.
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Eugenio_SS   AutoX seems to bring less and less fun-factor 2 me   Jun 6 2005, 04:43 PM
KeithO   ...that's how I ended up where I am. First au...   Jun 6 2005, 04:51 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jun 6 2005, 11:43)There a...   Jun 6 2005, 04:58 PM
Sam Strano   If you aren't a very competitive person, or la...   Jun 6 2005, 05:37 PM
98_1LE   I got bored with it. I like the people a whole lot...   Jun 6 2005, 05:44 PM
robz71lm7   Eugenio, that's exactly how I've been feel...   Jun 6 2005, 06:01 PM
rmackintosh   ...your feelings are NOT uncommon...I know a TON o...   Jun 6 2005, 06:04 PM
Absolut Speed   I certainly couldn't imagine running regularly...   Jun 6 2005, 07:17 PM
mitchntx   My AXing career didn't last but about 12 month...   Jun 6 2005, 07:27 PM
Eugenio_SS   well... we get 4 runs... and we are usually around...   Jun 6 2005, 08:16 PM
Eugenio_SS   ironically, I tend to enjoy more helping people an...   Jun 6 2005, 08:49 PM
sgarnett   The hassle factor makes a big difference to me. My...   Jun 6 2005, 09:16 PM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   I seriously thought about quitting last year (Auto...   Jun 6 2005, 09:25 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (robz71lm7 @ Jun 6 2005, 13:01)I'm ...   Jun 6 2005, 09:29 PM
sgarnett   I was sort of transitioning to driving the truck m...   Jun 6 2005, 09:37 PM
patred   I started autocrossing in '97 and did my first...   Jun 6 2005, 11:02 PM
mitchntx   I hear ... fear ... you Pat. The damage factor ha...   Jun 6 2005, 11:49 PM
98_1LE   So how is the paint swapping in CMC going so far? ...   Jun 6 2005, 11:59 PM
robz71lm7   Rubbin' is racin' Wish I could afford...   Jun 7 2005, 12:24 AM
ESPCamaro   I 'might' consider moving up. But only if ...   Jun 7 2005, 12:44 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 6 2005, 17:49)The damag...   Jun 7 2005, 01:15 AM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   QUOTE (ESPCamaro @ Jun 6 2005, 18:44)Honestly...   Jun 7 2005, 01:20 AM
sgarnett   I keep daydreamin' about getting a FF1600 for ...   Jun 7 2005, 01:57 AM
Eugenio_SS   it's not about the competition... I won't ...   Jun 7 2005, 03:43 AM
Eugenio_SS   to get more excitement, maybe I should try the Kev...   Jun 7 2005, 03:45 AM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jun 6 2005, 23:45)to get ...   Jun 7 2005, 03:52 AM
trackbird   QUOTE (Eugenio_SS @ Jun 6 2005, 22:45)to get ...   Jun 7 2005, 04:52 AM
TOO Z MAXX   I guess I am lucky as far as auto x goes. I can a...   Jun 7 2005, 06:54 AM
patred   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 6 2005, 17:49)I hear .....   Jun 7 2005, 10:16 AM
KeithO   Pat, I can't comment on your specific situatio...   Jun 7 2005, 10:33 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (98_1LE @ Jun 6 2005, 17:59)So how is t...   Jun 7 2005, 11:35 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 6 2005, 23:52)QUOTE (E...   Jun 7 2005, 11:59 AM
Bald54   I started autocrossing in 1978 and was instantly h...   Jun 7 2005, 02:40 PM
patred   QUOTE (KeithO @ Jun 7 2005, 04:33)Pat, I can...   Jun 7 2005, 04:23 PM
rpoz-29   I started in 1975, and ran all over VA, and DC. Ma...   Jun 8 2005, 10:27 PM
98_1LE   I had a Big Wheel in 1977   Jun 8 2005, 10:35 PM
bruecksteve   I started in 1973 (yea.. really old), ran the Nati...   Jun 8 2005, 11:01 PM
Eugenio_SS   damm... I started breathing in 1975... when you gu...   Jun 9 2005, 02:57 AM
rpoz-29   Our events have 4 runs, and our work schedule is o...   Jun 9 2005, 06:19 AM
robz71lm7   Rpo, that's exactly how our work schedule is s...   Jun 9 2005, 11:37 AM
pimpmaro   QUOTE (98_1LE @ Jun 8 2005, 16:35)I had a Big...   Jun 9 2005, 12:22 PM
bruecksteve   We do worker changes on the fly with 6 run groups.   Jun 9 2005, 12:24 PM
Eugenio_SS   QUOTE (pimpmaro @ Jun 9 2005, 08:22)QUOTE (98...   Jun 9 2005, 01:27 PM
LT4Firehawk   The first "speed" events I ever got invo...   Jun 9 2005, 01:48 PM
Houston   I'm new to this board and I have only autocros...   Jun 9 2005, 06:13 PM
trackbird   Welcome Houston . Pimpmaro was a drag racer unti...   Jun 9 2005, 08:11 PM
rpoz-29   Hey Houston, come on up and run with VMSC sometime...   Jun 10 2005, 12:57 AM
jensend   Autocrossed for about 3 seasons with the NNJR regi...   Jun 10 2005, 01:19 PM
RedHardSupra   I went to an autocross event once. I got ~130 SEC...   Jun 10 2005, 01:44 PM
Bald54   I've also been responsible for getting a lot ...   Jun 10 2005, 03:04 PM
jensend   Steve- I agree that autox can teach younger driver...   Jun 10 2005, 09:54 PM
pimpmaro   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 9 2005, 14:11)Welcome ...   Jun 11 2005, 06:47 AM
DanKeen   QUOTE (pimpmaro @ Jun 9 2005, 04:22)QUOTE (98...   Jun 11 2005, 06:30 PM
DanKeen   And to add something useful to this thread... As ...   Jun 11 2005, 06:36 PM

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