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ESPCamaro
post Jun 19 2005, 11:23 PM
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MY GOD did anyone see what happened. The USGP started SIX CARS. All Michilin tired cars took a warm up lap then parked.

Probably the death of a USGP for a few years.



Sheesh and some people say that the SCCA and NASCRAP is a political mess.....
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post Jun 22 2005, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 22 2005, 07:24)
[devil's advocate mode on]

Ok....It sucks, I fully agree. But, what if?

What if you got to an event and were told that you could only run the track (road course) in 1st gear? Would you run?

How about them telling you to pit every other lap? Would you run?

Maybe on every lap, you (or all F-bodies on course) had to drive through the parking lot and then back on track (in a not F body only race). Would you run?

Or, you arrive at the track and find that every set of tires in the trailer have 1/32nd inch of tread left before hitting the cords (knowing that you could get through the race with 12 tire changes, thus using the remaining rubber on each of your worn out sets). Would you run?

Or, you got to the track and found that your box of new "super race pads" somehow had only a set of Pep Boys brake pads inside (no race pads). Would you run?
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Would you have really done anything different? (If you can answer "yes" that you would run to every question above, then you are free to keep complaining  (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ).

The answer is yes, with the possible exception of the brake pads (though taking care of the equipment to make it last was a normal part of racing until recently).

In the eloquent words of a Doonesbury character many years ago, "damn it, a gig's a gig".

The exception is of course pretending the problem doesn't exist, and letting drivers hit the wall - that clearly isn't an option.

Heck, I'd pit every other lap if I had to. That parking lot idea sounds like fun!

I have to admit, Stoddart's letter rings true. It's either credible or at least well-written.

It's interesting that apparently most of the teams, including at least one Bridgestone team, favored the chicane. Of course, this was written after-the-fact.
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ESPCamaro   USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 19 2005, 11:23 PM
trackbird   I missed it. Tire issues (based on what I could ga...   Jun 19 2005, 11:33 PM
y5e06   I would have so amazingly pissed if I had paid goo...   Jun 20 2005, 12:37 AM
firehawkclone   Only toyota had an issue(ok 2) and 1 was under bra...   Jun 20 2005, 12:43 AM
SuperMacGuy   It was a joke.. I have some Le Mans and Champ Car ...   Jun 20 2005, 01:52 AM
rmackintosh   ...In my opinion F1 has been a bad joke for MANY y...   Jun 20 2005, 03:43 AM
conemark   I was truly baffled by the childish way that this ...   Jun 20 2005, 10:42 AM
axoid   I was there yesterday and I would like to thank th...   Jun 20 2005, 12:40 PM
sgarnett   Michelin definitely screwed up; no doubt about it....   Jun 20 2005, 03:17 PM
rmackintosh   I don't see why all the people are coming down...   Jun 20 2005, 04:18 PM
beuke23   I personally would still put the blame on Michelin...   Jun 22 2005, 02:56 AM
nape   I watched part of qualifying but that was it. Wha...   Jun 22 2005, 04:40 AM
trackbird   [devil's advocate mode on] Ok....It sucks, I ...   Jun 22 2005, 12:24 PM
robz71lm7   All professional sports suck imo. I'd much ra...   Jun 22 2005, 12:28 PM
Soma07   Below are the words of Paul Stoddart of Minardi. I...   Jun 22 2005, 12:43 PM
trackbird   I wonder what that letter will cost him (fines, et...   Jun 22 2005, 01:03 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 22 2005, 07:24)[devil...   Jun 22 2005, 01:58 PM
trackbird   Though, the brake pad "problem" is the c...   Jun 22 2005, 02:25 PM
mitchntx   Designing and building a chicane hours before the ...   Jun 22 2005, 02:28 PM
CMC#5   Wow...Paul has some balls publishing things like t...   Jun 22 2005, 02:31 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 22 2005, 09:28)Also mis...   Jun 22 2005, 02:52 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (CMC#5 @ Jun 22 2005, 09:31)As to wethe...   Jun 22 2005, 03:02 PM
mitchntx   Clarification: Reasons behind they took a "h...   Jun 22 2005, 03:03 PM
beuke23   QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 22 2005, 10:52)It...   Jun 22 2005, 06:10 PM
rmackintosh   ....that IS the problem... EVERYONE did what ...   Jun 22 2005, 06:56 PM
beuke23   QUOTE EVERYONE did what "they had to"......   Jun 22 2005, 07:33 PM
35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS   I disagree with being able to add a chicane to the...   Jun 22 2005, 10:08 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jun 22...   Jun 23 2005, 12:22 AM
sgarnett   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 22 2005, 10:03)I realiz...   Jun 23 2005, 12:36 AM
Soma07   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jun 22...   Jun 23 2005, 03:40 AM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (Soma07 @ Jun 22 2005, 21:40)QUOTE (35t...   Jun 23 2005, 05:54 AM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Soma07 @ Jun 22 2005, 21:40)QUOTE (35t...   Jun 23 2005, 11:33 AM
sgarnett   The chicane might have been erected two hours befo...   Jun 23 2005, 01:10 PM
mitchntx   That would've been a good thing to do ... In ...   Jun 23 2005, 01:13 PM
sgarnett   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 22 2005, 09:28)We'r...   Jun 23 2005, 01:13 PM
y5e06   QUOTE (35th_Anniversary_AS_Camaro_SS @ Jun 22...   Jun 23 2005, 01:16 PM
Soma07   QUOTE (mitchntx @ Jun 23 2005, 05:33)If I rec...   Jun 23 2005, 02:27 PM
mitchntx   QUOTE (Soma07 @ Jun 23 2005, 08:27)its not as...   Jun 23 2005, 03:07 PM
beuke23   On a side note, the only bright thing that happen...   Jun 23 2005, 06:49 PM
rmackintosh   QUOTE (beuke23 @ Jun 23 2005, 12:49)On a side...   Jun 23 2005, 09:30 PM
ESPCamaro   I've got to get ready for Oscoda Pro Solo. Mor...   Jun 23 2005, 10:20 PM
Absolut Speed   RE: USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 24 2005, 04:50 PM
CMC #37   RE: USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 26 2005, 05:52 AM
Teutonic Speedracer   RE: USGP. What a political POS race.   Jun 27 2005, 02:12 AM

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